[Development] Code of conduct.
tmartsum at gmail.com
Sat Jun 23 12:09:45 CEST 2012
I think you should consider a bit more what you write - and your +1 to a
code of conduct is a bit provoking since you probably are one of the
persons that some people have in mind.
Maybe even I am on Qt-labs - though I mostly try just to seek knowledge -
and the last thing I want is to talk bad about Qt, which you have no
problems with e.g.
*The Qt Project is, in this very moment, in the worst state it could
possibly be in.
First of all I do not agree. Before it was nearly impossible to get changes
into Qt - now the project is truly open (and I speak from experience). Now
it will be able to survive even without Nokias help (since Qt has Digia and
KDAB and quite a few personal contributions). But lets just see what the
future brings in stead of whining before something has happened.
Secondly: What are you trying to achieve by writing such a thing? Do you
have some secret agreement with Elop himself? I think we all are a bit
concerned about Elop and Qt within Nokia - especially people that (unlike
you and me) can have their jobs on the line. You threat these persons that
works hard for Qt without any respect. I must admit that shortly after Elop
had the strategy with WP without Qt I was frustrated and wrote a lot of
negative posts about it - but what did it help? Did it change the mind of
Elop (the trojan)? Of course not. Now we can wonder how such a disaster CEO
can keep his seat - *but nothing will change by (you) crying out loud. *If
you have some good ideas I think people in here like to hear them - but
currently you are not really helping.
Furthermore I am sure that the Nokian Qt people but focus on doing Qt. You
are wasting both your own and their time - and giving Qt bad advertisement.
What is your help to the Qt project actually? I fail to find any patches
that you have made.
Finally we do have one thing in common. We both prefer Widgets over QML -
but I am sure that I and others can do without your 'help' on that area ...
(since your word probably does not count high in here ...)
@subject / everybody
Not that I am directly against a code of conduct - but I fail to see what
problem it will solve ....
Would it mean that someone should be blocked from contributions? (That
seems to be a bit silly if the code is ok ...)
What does it help to make a block on a mail in here?
In both cases new mail addresses can omit the blocking....
Theoretic the ML could be moderated - where people can get white-listed to
post directly after a while (if they behave well).
However I am not sure that the problem is worth doing such a work (since
nobody in here will listen to things like *'The Qt Project is, in this very
moment, in the worst state it could possibly be in.' serious*).
Maybe moderating some of the blogs would be more important - but I think
that should be the last solution.
(And all this is said by one who has really has fought anti Qt guy on
linuxin.dk with the nick 'Bill Gates' - that really deserved a ban - but
still that would imply that someone screams about no free speech and makes
comparisons to e.g China ... There really is no silver bullet to this
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, d3fault <d3faultdotxbe at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Alexis Menard <
> alexis.menard at openbossa.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:53 AM, <marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com> wrote:
>> > Right. I must admit i can't see which specific incident which triggered
>> this thread now, i believe the community has behaved good lately. But i
>> agree that a general code of conduct for all our forums (mails, IRC,
>> reviews, bugreports, etc)
>> I hate to point fingers but reading this made me sad :
> This whole thread makes me sad.
> Microsoft/Nokia have carefully crafted a state of FUD...
> ...and all you want to talk about is the Code of Conduct policy??????
> The Qt Project is, in this very moment, in the worst state it could
> possibly be in.
> No amount of disrespectful comments (made by yours truly) could make it
> any worse.
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