[Qt-creator] Raise awareness: Qt Quick Designer's need for love

Jason H scorp1us at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 21 20:20:37 CET 2014


I remember the widget designer went through a red-headed stepchild phase too. It got better :-)

I'm getting good at coding these by hand, I think large part because I got good at coding widget layouts by hand. But the key in Quick is to use components. I've not event tried to use designer on a layout that uses components. But nothing is hugely complicated with properly coded components. 

How this pans out, I do not know. It could be that Widgets end up being used in old designer. I don't know. I really loved that old system. 



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 From: Ariel Molina R. <ariel at edis.mx>
To: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Miettinen Riitta-Leena <Riitta-Leena.Miettinen at digia.com>; "qt-creator at qt-project.org" <qt-creator at qt-project.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] Raise awareness: Qt Quick Designer's need for love
 


There are several issues crashing the qml2puppet and/or turning the designer view totally blank (thus completely useless). I reported some of them, others severely affecting the designer have more than 6months old.


For toy interfaces the designer works fine, but as soon as you do something serious it shows its teeth. I have the feeling that the people involved in mantaining the designer are not the ones using it for serious work, otherwise the bugs would annoy them very frequently. Either QtC crashes because of the rewriter or the qml2puppet crashes, or you get totally blank screens, or incorrectly rendered items, or blank (transparent) items.

Check for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gerGN6IN7LY


I am eager to test patches and report, i pull master every morning (gmt-6). 

Ariel


(OTOH, Im a current strong advocate at two universities, i teach to at least one full classroom every semester, but lacking basic reliability with crashes/blanks/errors every 15min, makes it harder to argue in favor.)





On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> wrote:

I played with it more last night and it seemed better, but crashed frequently. It seems that you have to start with a blank and work that. The small initial layout I gave it I wasn't able to do anything. So My first assessment was not as accurate as it should have been.
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>Did you take a look at the docs to find out which features the Qt Quick Designer offers: 
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>http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-3.0/creator-visual-editor.html
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>The docs are also accessible from the Help mode in Qt Creator. 
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>Positioning items on screens (including anchoring) is explained here, for example:
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>http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-3.0/quick-screens.html
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>On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Jason H wrote:
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>I gave designer a shot last night and I agree, its unusable. I could not figure out how to do anything other than drag controls around. No anchors, etc.
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>>The Widget designer is heaven. Couldn't we steal code from that and do Quick layouts that way?
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>> From: Ariel Molina R. <ariel at edis.mx>
>>To: qt-creator at qt-project.org 
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:41 PM
>>Subject: [Qt-creator] Raise awareness: Qt Quick Designer's need for love
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>>Hello,  
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>>This is an email to raise awareness about the lack of love the Qt Quick Designer is getting since Qt Quick 2.0.
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>>Qt Quick is announced as a great alternative to creating fluid UI's, and it really is (assuming the qml2puppet and QtC Designer are stabilized). I just list a few of the more severe bugs affecting the stability and breaking the QtC Quick Designer in ways that almost make it unusable.
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>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-11134
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>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-11511
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>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-9645
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>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-10515
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>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-9396
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>>And other not so severe but easily fixed:
>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-10741
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>>Also Qt:
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>>https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-36932
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>>Can you please take a look, im tracking QtC master daily (GMT-6) and can help test any patches.
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>>Ariel
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