From brownson at mobis.co.kr Wed Oct 25 07:38:47 2017 From: brownson at mobis.co.kr (=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?v8C6p7e5uuq287/uvbw=?=) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:38:47 +0000 Subject: [Accessibility] [Yocto Embedded Linux Device] Help getting started with QT Accessibility In-Reply-To: <3e77093a4de74b9486e25ffbdac7820a@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr> References: <3e77093a4de74b9486e25ffbdac7820a@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr> Message-ID: Hi Frederik, My name is Brownson and i'm the test automation development lead for my team. Our company is developing some new product lines, all running on embedded linux (yocto) with applications developed in QT. To enable me efficiently test the GUIs on these QT-based embedded linux products, i started looking at QT accessibility which led me to Frederik Gladhorn's blog (http://blog.qt.io/blog/author/frederik/). Although I have read most of the articles on that blog, i'm still not able to make much progress on my own. I have also reached out to QT Korea since i'm based in South Korea but they're not much of a help. I suspect they don't have much experience with accessibility either. So i need help getting started. For one, i observed that the at-spi2 service is refusing to start on my embedded linux system so i probably need to start from getting that resolved. Not sure exactly. I would appreciate some help and guidance and how to get started etc. Any help and leads would be highly appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance. Best wishes, Brownson 오벨레브라운슨 OBELE BROWNSON OBARIDOA 책임연구원 | SW검증팀 Principal Research Engineer | SW VERIFICATION AND VALIDATION TEAM Hyundai Mobis Co., Ltd. T 031-8021-3803 | F 031-899-1797 | M 010-2492-4870 | E brownson at mobis.co.kr www.mobis.co.kr [로고] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brownson at mobis.co.kr Thu Oct 26 07:21:16 2017 From: brownson at mobis.co.kr (=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?v8C6p7e5uuq287/uvbw=?=) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 05:21:16 +0000 Subject: [Accessibility] [Yocto Embedded Linux Device] How to manually start the AT-SPI bus/service In-Reply-To: References: <3e77093a4de74b9486e25ffbdac7820a@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr>, Message-ID: <37601f8525c14246b7a808f3b97886b7@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr> Hi, For some reason, my at-spi service is not started/running so each time i try to connect i get the error message below AT-SPI: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus. Is at-spi-bus-launcher running? 1. I understand there is a script that gnome apps use to internally start this bus. Can anyone share this script with me? or steps to manually start the script. 2. Any other tips on how to resolve this issue would be highly appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance. Brownson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frederik.gladhorn at qt.io Thu Oct 26 09:49:41 2017 From: frederik.gladhorn at qt.io (Frederik Gladhorn) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:49:41 +0200 Subject: [Accessibility] [Yocto Embedded Linux Device] Help getting started with QT Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <3e77093a4de74b9486e25ffbdac7820a@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr> Message-ID: <14001941.Jz7TGGVRBj@frederik-thinkcentre-m93p> Hi Brownson, On onsdag 25. oktober 2017 07.38.47 CEST 오벨레브라운슨 wrote: > Hi Frederik, > > My name is Brownson and i'm the test automation development lead for my > team. > Our company is developing some new product lines, all running on embedded > linux (yocto) with applications developed in QT. > To enable me efficiently test the GUIs on these QT-based embedded linux > products, i started looking at QT accessibility which led me to Frederik > Gladhorn's blog (http://blog.qt.io/blog/author/frederik/). > Although I have read most of the articles on that blog, i'm still not able > to make much progress on my own. > I have also reached out to QT Korea since > i'm based in South Korea but they're not much of a help. I suspect they > don't have much experience with accessibility either. > So i need help getting started. For one, i observed that the at-spi2 service > is refusing to start on my embedded linux system so i probably need to > start from getting that resolved. Not sure exactly. I would appreciate some > help and guidance and how to get started etc. To be honest, I haven't tried running the at-spi 2 service on any embedded hardware. I don't see it as a problem conceptually though, it's something to debug if it doesn't work. Note that it's not a Qt project and we only implement the required dbus interface. Another alternative could be to use Froglogic's Squish or use the DBus API directly. I'll also answer you in private about services from The Qt Company. Cheers, Frederik > Any help and leads would be highly appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance. > > Best wishes, > > Brownson > > > > > > 오벨레브라운슨 OBELE BROWNSON OBARIDOA > > 책임연구원 | SW검증팀 Principal Research Engineer | SW VERIFICATION AND VALIDATION > TEAM > > Hyundai Mobis Co., Ltd. > T 031-8021-3803 | F 031-899-1797 | M 010-2492-4870 | E brownson at mobis.co.kr > www.mobis.co.kr > > [로고] > > > > > From brownson at mobis.co.kr Fri Oct 27 02:06:57 2017 From: brownson at mobis.co.kr (=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?v8C6p7e5uuq287/uvbw=?=) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:06:57 +0000 Subject: [Accessibility] [Yocto Embedded Linux Device] Help getting started with QT Accessibility In-Reply-To: <14001941.Jz7TGGVRBj@frederik-thinkcentre-m93p> References: <3e77093a4de74b9486e25ffbdac7820a@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr> , <14001941.Jz7TGGVRBj@frederik-thinkcentre-m93p> Message-ID: <68e26ee2f44a4349a136713df36e0dfc@KGRPJMB07P.mobis.co.kr> Thanks for getting back to me Frederik. To be honest, I haven't tried running the at-spi 2 service on any embedded hardware. I don't see it as a problem conceptually though, it's something to debug if it doesn't work. Note that it's not a Qt project and we only implement the required dbus interface. --> Yes, i agree that it should work conceptually. Looking forward to guide debugging this. Another alternative could be to use Froglogic's Squish or use the DBus API directly. I'll also answer you in private about services from The Qt Company. --> I did evaluate Squish many months ago. It doesn't fit quite well with what we already have on ground hence the need to develop this. Will be interesting to try the direct DBus API approach too. Will follow up with you on the QT approach first before looking at any other options. Thanks again, Brownson ________________________________ 보낸 사람 : "Frederik Gladhorn" 보낸 날짜 : 2017-10-26 16:49:54 ( +09:00 ) 받는 사람 : accessibility at qt-project.org 참조 : 오벨레브라운슨 제목 : Re: [Accessibility] [Yocto Embedded Linux Device] Help getting started with QT Accessibility Hi Brownson, On onsdag 25. oktober 2017 07.38.47 CEST 오벨레브라운슨 wrote: > Hi Frederik, > > My name is Brownson and i'm the test automation development lead for my > team. > Our company is developing some new product lines, all running on embedded > linux (yocto) with applications developed in QT. > To enable me efficiently test the GUIs on these QT-based embedded linux > products, i started looking at QT accessibility which led me to Frederik > Gladhorn's blog (http://blog.qt.io/blog/author/frederik/). > Although I have read most of the articles on that blog, i'm still not able > to make much progress on my own. > I have also reached out to QT Korea since > i'm based in South Korea but they're not much of a help. I suspect they > don't have much experience with accessibility either. > So i need help getting started. For one, i observed that the at-spi2 service > is refusing to start on my embedded linux system so i probably need to > start from getting that resolved. Not sure exactly. I would appreciate some > help and guidance and how to get started etc. To be honest, I haven't tried running the at-spi 2 service on any embedded hardware. I don't see it as a problem conceptually though, it's something to debug if it doesn't work. Note that it's not a Qt project and we only implement the required dbus interface. Another alternative could be to use Froglogic's Squish or use the DBus API directly. I'll also answer you in private about services from The Qt Company. Cheers, Frederik > Any help and leads would be highly appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance. > > Best wishes, > > Brownson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: