[Development] Replacing Cleanlooks and Plastique

Haydania-Capri Hummel oscailt at oscailtfoundation.org.uk
Mon Oct 15 18:46:48 CEST 2012

I'll fourth the motion! 

Grab your pitch forks and touches.

Haydania-Capri Hummel
Founder of Oscailt Foundation, Inc.

"It's what you make it; it's fate in your hands not ours..."

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Hemer <frank at hemer.org>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:44:24 
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Subject: Re: [Development] Replacing Cleanlooks and Plastique

On Monday 15 October 2012 18:35:01 Konrad Rosenbaum wrote:
> Hi,
> On Monday 15 October 2012 15:56:23 Bache-Wiig Jens wrote:
> > The main focus of Qt on the desktop is to provide a native look and feel
> > on
> > all platforms. Until now, Qt has come bundled with a few extra styles that
> > were not used intentionally anywhere. Historically plastique was designed
> > to blend with KDE 3.0 and cleanlooks in early Gnome environments. They
> > have long since been replaced by Oxygen and GTK+ styles on these platforms
> > but have been left in our repository for historical and compatibility
> > reasons. We certainly don't need multiple non-native looks and feels
> > included in every build of Qt so I think we should clean it up a bit now
> > that we have the opportunity.
> Those are not obsolete. They still ship with KDE 4, it just uses Oxygen by
> default. So I wouldn't call then "non-native", just "less common".
> Call me a hopeless case, but the first thing I do on a fresh KDE is changing
> the style to one of those two because I find them more visually aiding than
> Oxygen (they have better contrast and are less "flashy").

+1 here

> > There are still a few use cases where including a non-native theme is
> > useful. This can be on platforms that don't have a desktop environment or
> > if an application wants to customise the colours of certain widgets.
> Changing color is not the only reason to change the style. There are other
> subtle differences - e.g. Cleanlooks displays labels on menu separators and
> looks almost completely native on Windows (I use it for exactly those
> reasons in one of my applications).

Same for me but using plastique in one of my applications - with _many_ 

> If I just wanted to change colors, I'd use a style sheet.
> > I expect it to have some more visual tweaks, but unless there are loud
> > protests, I would like to have this change in before the next beta.
> Does this count as loud protest?


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