[Development] Basing Qt Creator Coding Style on C++ Core Guidelines?
Konstantin Tokarev
annulen at yandex.ru
Sat Nov 19 02:17:27 CET 2016
17.11.2016, 13:33, "Marc Mutz" <marc.mutz at kdab.com>:
> On Thursday 17 November 2016 10:46:24 Edward Welbourne wrote:
>> On quarta-feira, 16 de novembro de 2016 17:11:02 PST Marco Bubke wrote:
>> >> Like you maybe have learned there are C++ Core Guidelines. They are
>> >> already very comprehensive. What about basing the Qt Creator Code
>> >> Style on it?
>> >>
>> >> I see advantages like new developer can easier grasp out rules
>> >> because they are already familiar with it.
>> >>
>> >> We may have to exclude some rules too because they don't fit to us.
>>
>> Thiago Macieira replied:
>> > "very comprehensive" is an understatement. Can you point out examples
>> > of rules you're more interested in? Maybe we should start with a
>> > whitelist of rules we do want and progressively expand from there.
>>
>> The guidelines' introduction does, after all, countenance gradual
>> adoption - especially for existing code-bases - and a general opt-in
>> approach. Presumably QtC's style is also used for new projects; it may
>> be worth using a larger subset of the guidelines for new projects as
>> compared to old; and it probably makes sense to make it easy for users
>> to configure which of the guidelines they opt in to, for each project.
>
> If we do nothing else, we should at least use owner<T> whereever possible.
Wouldn't it be a better idea to use standard language feature to indicate ownership,
i.e. std::unique_ptr, wherever it makes sense?
> We
> can add it to QtGlobal, since we require now enough C++11 to support it:
>
> namespace gsl {
> template <typename T> using owner<T> = T;
> }
>
> There, done. It doesn't even interfere with client code including a more
> comprehensive GSL library, because they will define it the same way, and it's
> just a type alias.
>
> One problem is that in Qt, who is the owner is often not clear. But that
> should not prevent us from using it everywhere else.
>
> Than again, no compiler actually checks for this atm, not even MSVC, afaik, so
> if we get it wrong, there's no-one but reviewers to call the mistake...
>
> The bigger problem is that while owner<T> does not affect the ABI, all other
> GSL types do, and we're back to our §$%&!§ rule that we can't accept other
> libs' types in our ABI, preventing anything other than owner<T> from being
> added to Qt.
>
> My personal opinion is that we're way, WAY, past the tipping point where this
> policy started to hurt Qt more than the convenience of interchanging libc++
> and libstdc++ on OS X gives to the 5 people in the world that use this
> feature. And I'm not at all happy that QtCS chickened out on a decision this
> year. I don't think we can afford to wait for next year's QtCS to maybe-maybe-
> not get rid of that nonsensical rule.
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
>
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Konstantin
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