[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct
NIkolai Marchenko
enmarantispam at gmail.com
Fri Oct 26 19:24:52 CEST 2018
Just to clarify: she sought to remove _maintainer_ of the project :) At
that point the guy was doing most of the work.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:48 PM Jason H <jhihn at gmx.com> wrote:
> My fundamental problem about the Contributor Covenant[1] was initially and
> solely the fallout from the Linux Kernel fiasco. But then I learned that it
> was drafted by Coraline Ada Ehmke, who sought to have a contributor removed
> [2] from a project preemptively. The contributor did nothing wrong with
> respect to the project or the project's community. She constructed a claim
> of "transphobia" based on a tweet the contributor wrote in no way relating
> to the project at hand, and slandered the project for not expunging them.
> My mind is made up: the Contributor Covenant is a tool of oppression.
>
> The specific sentence in the Covenant is:
> "This Code of Conduct applies both within project spaces and in public
> spaces when an individual is representing the project or its community."
>
> However, despite being the author of the Covenant (2014), she found it
> appropriate to attack someone who was clearly not operating in a project
> space or representing the project community (2015). We now have two
> examples - the linux Kernel and Opal project, that after CC was enacted
> that calls for removal of members based on past unrelated tweets went out.
> One of the problems its politics and political climates change over time.
> Expressing what is not political at one point in time may become political
> in subsequent years. People's minds also change over time.
>
> I urge you to read link[3] below and see if we want that kind of
> attention. It summarizes what happens when the CC has been adopted by other
> projects.
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_Covenant
> [2] https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941
> [3] https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/974038-why-the-linux-coc-is-bad/
>
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 at 3:50 AM
> > From: "Christian Kandeler" <Christian.Kandeler at qt.io>
> > To: "development at qt-project.org" <development at qt-project.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 19:39:45 +0200
> > André Pönitz <apoenitz at t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 09:51:00AM +0200, Volker Krause via
> Development wrote:
> > > > We do have a Code of Conduct at KDE for about 10 years now, and this
> hasn't
> > > > led to abuse of power, suppression of free speech, racism against
> white people
> > > > or whatever other nonsense people seem to attribute to CoCs
> nowadays.
> > >
> > > The KDE CoC is *friendly*. It contains words like "considerate",
> "pragmatic",
> > > "support". It doesn't push someone's personal political agenda.
> >
> > I agree. It reads as if it was written with the intention of creating a
> constructive environment, lacks the inquisition-y vibe and is free of
> jargon and weirdly over-specific lists.
> >
> >
> > Christian
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