[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

[Konstantin Shegunov]

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:27 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira at intel.com>
wrote:

> > Well, I'm not as sure as you, but I am hopeful.
>
> Then trust me. I know a lot of people in those two companies, I am from
> the
> same background as most of them (KDE community) and I have worked for
> Trolltech, whose values and ethic remain in TQtC.
>
> So trust me when I say they, like my colleagues at Intel right now, are
> expected to behave themselves according to rules very similar, if not
> identical, to those set forth in the CC and KDE CoC.
>

Okay, I have no reason to doubt it. I only meant I have no personal
experience to base my conviction on, unlike you.

And here's the cinch: would *you*, Konstantin, feel qualified to contact
> their
> HR? Do you even know whom to contact?


Probably not. Granted I'm arrogant enough to send a hot mail to some person
at the company, but I would hardly expect a response out of such a thing.

This is where the CoC committee can come
> in, because they have the community standing to contact an HR
> representative
> or the person's manager to see if they can also be of help. Maybe those
> two
> are aware of this person going through a rough patch in their lives and
> could
> advise in other ways to solve the situation.
>
> Note I didn't say "contact to get them fired", but "to see if they can be
> of
> help". We don't want to lose the contributor, we want to see the situation
> resolved in such a way that we keep both parties.
>

I grant you that one. I still believe the enforcement and internal details
should be separate from the main text, but that's a minor detail at this
point.
Note: I continue to think that KDE's CoC's text is written better and more
clearly.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:44 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira at intel.com>
wrote:

> On Sunday, 28 October 2018 13:18:02 PDT Alexey Andreyev wrote:
> > > The text is clear - actions will be taken to stop the discrimination.
> > > That involves technical means (kick / ban) but also more social means
> >
> > It is not clear. Intruder could ask to ban some person pretending it's
> > discrimination problem.
>
> And I'm pretty sure the KDE Community WG can easily compile a list of
> times
> that they were maliciously asked to look into situations and how much time
> it
> took them to give it the attention it was due.
>

That'd be interesting to see, even if only out of curiosity.
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