[Development] Build system for Qt 6
Jean-Michaël Celerier
jeanmichael.celerier at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 22:36:52 CET 2018
Yes, it's a big requirement for a lot of people using OFX that they be
able to use also Xcode and / or Visual Studio. But QBS was at some point
(not sure if still the case) the main one.
On 30/10/2018 22:25, Иван Комиссаров wrote:
> Huh? Looks like they are supporting every build system alive
> https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/tree/patch-release/libs/openFrameworksCompiled/project
>
>> 30 окт. 2018 г., в 22:14, Jean-Michaël Celerier
>> <jeanmichael.celerier at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jeanmichael.celerier at gmail.com>> написал(а):
>>
>> OpenFrameworks, a fairly used creative coding framework has been
>> using QBS for a few years. My experience with it in that context has
>> been quite negative - a year ago it would break on every new QBS
>> release, so you had to use an exact QBS version if you wanted to use
>> OFX (exhibit A:
>> https://forum.openframeworks.cc/t/qtcreator-v4-3-1-qbs-problem/27214),
>> so multiple people I know have ended up porting OF to use CMake
>> instead : https://github.com/ofnode/of which frankly worked better
>> and with less breakage. As always, mileage may vary.
>>
>>
>> -------
>> Jean-Michaël Celerier
>> http://www.jcelerier.name <http://www.jcelerier.name/>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:07 PM Thiago Macieira
>> <thiago.macieira at intel.com <mailto:thiago.macieira at intel.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 13:47:00 PDT Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:53:48PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 12:29:46 PDT Oswald Buddenhagen
>> wrote:
>> > > > doesn't authorize you to impose requirements that make it
>> basically
>> > > > impossible to employ qt as a bootstrapping device for a qbs
>> > > > ecosystem.
>> > >
>> > > The whole point was "let Qt not be the guinea pig".
>> >
>> > you're essentially presuming that qbs is developed by a potentially
>> > incompetent external entity.
>>
>> No. However, I am asking for proof.
>>
>> > > Show me that the tool can achieve what Qt needs for it to achieve
>> >
>> > qtbase//wip/qbs2 speaks for itself.
>>
>> That's the guinea pig. I am asking for proof by seeing someone
>> else adopt it.
>> The tool is now several years old, it ought to have attracted
>> *someone*.
>>
>> And even if it hasn't, there are a couple of years left until we
>> switch for
>> Qt. The community supporting this tool can find other projects of
>> moderate
>> complexity to work with and support.
>>
>> > > and has enough of a track record of a community to ask for help.
>> >
>> > it has enough "community" and intrinsic quality to get things
>> going.
>>
>> I'm not disputing it has quality. But it lacks a specific
>> community I called
>> for: packagers.
>>
>> Tell me, has anyone tried to build that branch in the Boot2Qt
>> context?
>>
>> > asking for more is completely unreasonable before the community
>> from
>> > which the tool originates shows committment by *relying* on it.
>> and as
>> > the current situation shows, everyone who didn't trust the
>> story was
>> > *right*.
>>
>> I disagree and I find it completely reasonable to ask. That's why
>> I did so.
>>
>> And yes, they were right: if qbs is created for Qt alone, then
>> they shouldn't
>> rely on it. Hence the request to show that it can be used by
>> others and that
>> there's at least a modest community behind it.
>>
>> There has been enough time to get more adoption and there's still
>> time left.
>> So get someone else to adopt it.
>>
>> --
>> Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com <http://intel.com/>
>> Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
>>
>>
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