[Development] Maintainance Tool

Tuukka Turunen tuukka.turunen at qt.io
Sat Mar 5 11:07:19 CET 2022


Hi Konrad et al,

Like already mentioned Qt Project systems, code.qt.io repositories, github mirror etc are not blocked. Online installer for open-source users is blocked from Russia and Belarus based IP addresses. Plan is to block also download.qt.io and possibly some of the qt.io websites. These are done based on IP address.

Blocking the installer and access to binaries affects a much larger number of users than those who are active in the community. It impacts also many who create closed source products using the open-source Qt.

Yours,

                Tuukka

From: Development <development-bounces at qt-project.org> on behalf of Konrad Rosenbaum <konrad at silmor.de>
Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 23.25
To: development at qt-project.org <development at qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

Hi Tuukka,

I believe an official statement from the Qt Company is in order - right now people are forced to find out the hard way whether they are blocked and how far the block goes. It is impossible to tell whether it is on purpose or not and what the purpose would be.

It does not matter what side people are on, they deserve to know what's happening to them.

It's also easier to accept and support this, if we know what "this" is.



Please state very clearly:

Who is being blocked? (Location, commercial customers, open source users, developers, ...?)

Why are they blocked and for how long? (We might even agree with your reasoning.)

What services are supposed to be blocked and which ones are not supposed to be blocked? (Commercial vs. Open Source, Binary vs. Source Downloads, Users vs. Contributors, ...)

Where to report bugs in this block? (e.g. is Konstantin really supposed to be blocked from contributing?)

And what discussions will be redirected to /dev/null?



Right now we live in a situation that we all had hoped would not occur again in Europe. We had hoped that the hard learned lessons of our grand parents would prevent this from happening. Let's at least try to be a voice of reason in this situation.



    Konrad


On 04/03/2022 17:34, Tuukka Turunen wrote:
Hi,

Like already mentioned, use of the online installer is blocked from certain IP addresses.

Access to the Qt Project source code repository has not been blocked.

If you wish to discuss this, please remember http://quips-qt-io.herokuapp.com/quip-0012-Code-of-Conduct.html

Yours,

                Tuukka

From: Development <development-bounces at qt-project.org><mailto:development-bounces at qt-project.org> on behalf of Konstantin Ritt <ritt.ks at gmail.com><mailto:ritt.ks at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 18.23
To: Denis Shienkov <denis.shienkov at gmail.com><mailto:denis.shienkov at gmail.com>
Cc: Qt development mailing list <development at qt-project.org><mailto:development at qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
Plz restrain your emotions. There is no reason to spread hysteria even more.

Konstantin


пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 19:09, Denis Shienkov <denis.shienkov at gmail.com<mailto:denis.shienkov at gmail.com>>:

Yes, it's kind of hysterical. I don't understand what the Qt company wants to achieve in the end? What is the purpose?

So far, it looks more like a clowning: "the circus is gone, but the clowns remain."

Qt Company can't stick your tongue out of the USA ass? :)

I had a higher opinion of Qt Company up to this point ...

This is not serious somehow, some kind of kindergarten. LOL. :)

BR, Denis


04.03.2022 18:58, Konstantin Ritt пишет:
As long as I can fetch sources I wouldn't take any actions.
But anyways, bringing your own political preferences to the open source world rules is a quite hypocritical move.
In the adult world, it doesn't matter if your community members / contributors have a skin tone, political or sexual preferences not like yours, or an IP address that belongs to some particular territory.

Disappointed Konstantin


пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 18:01, Andy Shaw <andy.shaw at qt.io<mailto:andy.shaw at qt.io>>:
Hi,

It is because your IP is detected to be in a country we do not allow downloads. If you are not able to access something you have purchased then let me know and I will get someone to get in touch with you directly about this. Otherwise, for the time being, this IP block will be in place.

Regards,
Andy

From: Development <development-bounces at qt-project.org<mailto:development-bounces at qt-project.org>> On Behalf Of Konstantin Ritt
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 1:43 PM
To: Konstantin Shegunov <kshegunov at gmail.com<mailto:kshegunov at gmail.com>>
Cc: Qt development mailing list <development at qt-project.org<mailto:development at qt-project.org>>
Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

I don't care. I need some explanations here, at public dev ML.

Regards,
Konstantin


пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 15:27, Konstantin Shegunov <kshegunov at gmail.com<mailto:kshegunov at gmail.com>>:
Hi,
I imagine you're using a russian IP address, so this[1] should shed some light on the matter.

Kind regards,
Konstantin.

[1]: https://forum.qt.io/topic/134724/unlock-qt-in-russia




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