[Development] Maintainance Tool

Sun Mar 6 11:44:49 CET 2022

Hi,

The European Union adopted sanctions targeting Russia and Belarus. Perhaps some of you participating in this thread are not be fully aware of the situation, so attached the relevant Etude from the European Parliament [1].

These sanctions include access and transfer of technology that might be used in military applications. Qt might be used in military applications (it is today).

You might disagree with the way the EU’s is responding to Putin’s acts of terror; and you might disagree with The Qt Company’s interpretation and implementation of these sanctions. But suggesting that anyone is restricting access to binary packages out of ethnical or racial motives, surely is beneath this community.

Stay safe.

Volker

[1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2022/729287/EPRS_ATA(2022)729287_EN.pdf

> On 5 Mar 2022, at 18:59, evilruff <evilruff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I never had a point to escalate it, neither any reasons to be rude or hard talk, but i really want to have an answers to following:
>
> - Do you consider all Russians/Belaraus people somehow worse to access the same open source resources then other people in the world?
>
> - If so, how would you explain those actions
>
> - If you exclude certain nations based on nationality/geographic locations/political preferences can you please loud and clear announce a full list of the people you would like to exclude and the reasons to do so
>
> Best regards,
> Yuri
>
>
>
> Отправлено с устройства Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Исходное сообщение --------
> От: Elvis Stansvik <elvstone at gmail.com>
> Дата: 05.03.2022 3:36 ПП (GMT+03:00)
> Кому: Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turunen at qt.io>
> Копия: development at qt-project.org
> Тема: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
>
> You answered two out of the five questions Konrad had. Can you answer
> the remaining ones?
>
> Cheers,
> Elvis
>
> Den lör 5 mars 2022 kl 11:08 skrev Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turunen at qt.io>:
> >
> > Hi Konrad et al,
> >
> >
> >
> > Like already mentioned Qt Project systems, code.qt.io repositories, github mirror etc are not blocked. Online installer for open-source users is blocked from Russia and Belarus based IP addresses. Plan is to block also download.qt.io and possibly some of the qt.io websites. These are done based on IP address.
> >
> >
> >
> > Blocking the installer and access to binaries affects a much larger number of users than those who are active in the community. It impacts also many who create closed source products using the open-source Qt.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Tuukka
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Development <development-bounces at qt-project.org> on behalf of Konrad Rosenbaum <konrad at silmor.de>
> > Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 23.25
> > To: development at qt-project.org <development at qt-project.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
> >
> > Hi Tuukka,
> >
> > I believe an official statement from the Qt Company is in order - right now people are forced to find out the hard way whether they are blocked and how far the block goes. It is impossible to tell whether it is on purpose or not and what the purpose would be.
> >
> > It does not matter what side people are on, they deserve to know what's happening to them.
> >
> > It's also easier to accept and support this, if we know what "this" is.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please state very clearly:
> >
> > Who is being blocked? (Location, commercial customers, open source users, developers, ...?)
> >
> > Why are they blocked and for how long? (We might even agree with your reasoning.)
> >
> > What services are supposed to be blocked and which ones are not supposed to be blocked? (Commercial vs. Open Source, Binary vs. Source Downloads, Users vs. Contributors, ...)
> >
> > Where to report bugs in this block? (e.g. is Konstantin really supposed to be blocked from contributing?)
> >
> > And what discussions will be redirected to /dev/null?
> >
> >
> >
> > Right now we live in a situation that we all had hoped would not occur again in Europe. We had hoped that the hard learned lessons of our grand parents would prevent this from happening. Let's at least try to be a voice of reason in this situation.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Konrad
> >
> >
> >
> > On 04/03/2022 17:34, Tuukka Turunen wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Like already mentioned, use of the online installer is blocked from certain IP addresses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Access to the Qt Project source code repository has not been blocked.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you wish to discuss this, please remember http://quips-qt-io.herokuapp.com/quip-0012-Code-of-Conduct.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Tuukka
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Development <development-bounces at qt-project.org> on behalf of Konstantin Ritt <ritt.ks at gmail.com>
> > Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 18.23
> > To: Denis Shienkov <denis.shienkov at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Qt development mailing list <development at qt-project.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
> >
> > Plz restrain your emotions. There is no reason to spread hysteria even more.
> >
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 19:09, Denis Shienkov <denis.shienkov at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Yes, it's kind of hysterical. I don't understand what the Qt company wants to achieve in the end? What is the purpose?
> >
> > So far, it looks more like a clowning: "the circus is gone, but the clowns remain."
> >
> > Qt Company can't stick your tongue out of the USA ass? :)
> >
> > I had a higher opinion of Qt Company up to this point ...
> >
> > This is not serious somehow, some kind of kindergarten. LOL. :)
> >
> > BR, Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > 04.03.2022 18:58, Konstantin Ritt пишет:
> >
> > As long as I can fetch sources I wouldn't take any actions.
> >
> > But anyways, bringing your own political preferences to the open source world rules is a quite hypocritical move.
> >
> > In the adult world, it doesn't matter if your community members / contributors have a skin tone, political or sexual preferences not like yours, or an IP address that belongs to some particular territory.
> >
> >
> >
> > Disappointed Konstantin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 18:01, Andy Shaw <andy.shaw at qt.io>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > It is because your IP is detected to be in a country we do not allow downloads. If you are not able to access something you have purchased then let me know and I will get someone to get in touch with you directly about this. Otherwise, for the time being, this IP block will be in place.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Development <development-bounces at qt-project.org> On Behalf Of Konstantin Ritt
> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 1:43 PM
> > To: Konstantin Shegunov <kshegunov at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Qt development mailing list <development at qt-project.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't care. I need some explanations here, at public dev ML.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Konstantin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 15:27, Konstantin Shegunov <kshegunov at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I imagine you're using a russian IP address, so this[1] should shed some light on the matter.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Konstantin.
> >
> > [1]: https://forum.qt.io/topic/134724/unlock-qt-in-russia
> >
> >
> >
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