[Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

andy fillebrown andy.fillebrown at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 00:04:01 CEST 2013


It is also good to remember that if one person is saying it then ten others
are thinking it.  I, too, am not happy with the dependencies added for Qt
5, and I have not been happy about it for some time.  I've bit my tongue
about it because I don't consider my opinion on the matter all that
important in light of comments like Thiago's.  My response has been, "Oh,
Windows sucks?  I must suck too because I use it.  I'm not even going to
bother bringing it up since I suck so much for using Windows."  Is this
really what Qt wants their users to be thinking and doing?





On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Bob Hood <bhood2 at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 4/10/2013 2:52 PM, Justin Ferguson wrote:
> > Support will always suck for that platform.
>
> Please don't make disturbing statements like that.  Ifthat were actually
> true,
> then it hugely discounts Qt as an option in development pipelines, whether
> or
> not it provided commercial support.  I would not go to my team and
> champion Qt
> on the project, knowing that "support will always suck for" Windows.  We
> use
> Windows/Visual Studio as our primary development platform, and then
> build/tweak on OS X (and probably Linux, before long).  AFAIK, only one
> person
> on my team uses OS X as his primary development platform.
>
> My problem is that the introduction of Perl to the build process breaks the
> out-of-the-box nature of Qt.  All I required before was the compiler/IDE
> environment that I would have already been installed anyway for me to be
> able
> to use Qt in the first place.  Now, Perl is on my system just for one
> aspect
> of building Qt, and it is of no further use.  Awkward design.
>
> Look, I understand it's OSS, and I also understand that Thiago (like many
> others) is a volunteer, and it was not my intent to attack him or his
> contributions in any way.  I'm simply concerned by a growing tendency I am
> seeing in the industry as a whole as OSS becomes employed to a greater and
> greater degree commercially.  I've seen some OSS projects have an
> "it's-good-enough" attitude, which is fine when it stays within the OSS
> ecosystem, but when it gets into commercial endeavors, it can be very
> frustrating to depend on, or, in some cases, even fatal.
>
> I always had the impression that Qt's developers held themselves to
> somewhat
> higher standards for an OSS project.
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