[Interest] QML standard components for mobile

Attila Csipa qt at csipa.in.rs
Thu Dec 11 12:10:08 CET 2014


Hi,

Styling is obviously important, but at long as it's only skin-deep (ie 
the full range
and feel of components is not there), it's going to lead to frustration 
on the long
run. The downside of drawing/making your components (whether by the Qt team
or 3rd party devs) is that you're reimplementing all the work the 
platform and UI
teams of Google, Apple, Microsoft etc are doing, with the fraction of 
resources.
That's why it's always a catch-up and a "kindasorta" native look and 
feel (which
is the same problem all the native-mimicking web frameworks are having).

Attila

On 12/11/2014 5:24 AM, Jason H' wrote:
> +1 this. I want info on the new flat style as well.
> -- 
> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> "Daniel França" <daniel.franca at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     The just launched Qt5.4 come with a "flat light" style for Qt
>     Quick Controls :D
>     It seems it'll help to achieve what I want, but I can't find any
>     documentation about those pre-defined styles.
>
>     Every time I search for something related I end up here:
>     http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-controls-styles-qmlmodule.html
>     What seems a much more manual way of set your styles, how can I
>     easy give my controls this new "flat light" style? Or any other
>     pre-defined style?
>
>
>     Em Fri Dec 05 2014 at 11:41:50 PM, Attila Csipa <qt at csipa.in.rs
>     <mailto:qt at csipa.in.rs>> escreveu:
>
>         Food for thought - if you're not adhering to native
>         look'n'feel, your only
>         (melting) advantage to the various cross-platform
>         Web-frameworks is
>         performance. The classic benefit of cross-platform frameworks was
>         minimizing development efforts, and the web is (warning:
>         biased opinion
>         ahead) actually doing a better job at this than oldschool
>         native-language
>         frameworks. Without the desire to get into a web-vs-native
>         flamewar, the
>         strongest argument for a non-web cross-platform framework is
>         not that
>         it gets "close" to native app feel, but that you can't
>         distinguish native apps
>         from those written with the framework, and this includes look
>         and feel, too.
>
>         Best regards,
>         Attila
>
>         On 12/5/2014 2:00 PM, Nuno Santos wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>
>             In my opinion, the real power of QML is precisely the fact
>             that you don’t need to stick to the native iOS/Android
>             look and keep the exact same look and feel on both
>             platforms (obviously you will have some limitations but
>             depending on the kind of application you are developing,
>             they will be easily overpassed).
>
>             Regarding the components, with listview, repeaters, rows,
>             columns, grid, etc you will definitely be able to do
>             almost everything you need.
>
>             For more desktop like controls you have QtQuickControls
>             subset (some of them might also be useful for general
>             application development ex: StackView). For elastic
>             layouts you should investigate QtQuickLayouts
>
>             http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquickcontrols-index.html
>             http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquicklayouts-index.html
>
>             Creating custom components in QML is also a breeze.
>
>             I think that most important to retain is the paradigm
>             shift. Taking advantage of states, bindings, etc instead
>             of making changes in response to events “by hand”.
>
>             The most important steps is to do something. After a
>             couple of small applications you will be up and running in
>             not time.
>
>             QML Book is definitely a nice resource for learning. Qt
>             documentation as well!
>
>             Take this info into account as well:
>
>             http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-performance.html
>
>             Regards,
>
>             Nuno Santos
>
>                 On 05 Dec 2014, at 11:51, Daniel França
>                 <daniel.franca at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:daniel.franca at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hi all,
>                 I started learning QML and would like to ask for some
>                 directions.
>                 My purpose is for mobile development, I've already
>                 done a few projects using Qt/C++ for desktop, but I
>                 didn't code anything for mobile.
>
>                 The first thing I was trying to find is if there's
>                 already some standard mobile components for qml, like
>                 side menu, button bars, grids, etc.
>                 Something that would make easier to have a mockup on
>                 Fluid or something similar, and then implement it on QML.
>                 Would be great to have components that'll look native
>                 at IOS and Android, or at least something like a
>                 "Bootstrap" for QML.
>
>                 or if I should do implement this components myself.
>
>                 I tried to search for a set of components like that
>                 but couldn't find anything.
>                 I'm reading this book btw: http://qmlbook.org/
>
>                 Thanks for any help.
>                 Regards,
>                 Daniel França
>
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