[Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

[Reinhardt Behm]

You do not need to reply to me directly, I'm reading the list.

I agree with you about the website. I follows the horrible trend of flashy eye 
candy without content. 
It is impossible to find any information about pricing. :-(

The designer clearly does not understand who the audience is. We are busy 
people looking for information not for useless nonsense!

-- 
Best Regards

Reinhardt Behm


On Saturday 18 July 2015 20:05:23 John C. Turnbull wrote:
> The new licensing structure (and not to mention the abominable website) are
> clearly NOT working and will only hurt Qt, perhaps even kill it.  It shows
> how out-of-touch the Qt Company's executives are with their actual customers
> now.  This is common as companies grow larger and more successful.
> 
> Please, Qt Company, listen to your customers while you still have some...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: interest-bounces+ozemale=ozemail.com.au at qt-project.org
> [mailto:interest-bounces+ozemale=ozemail.com.au at qt-project.org] On Behalf Of
> Gianluca
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 6:24 PM
> To: Reinhardt Behm
> Cc: interest at qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?
> 
> 
> Il giorno 18/lug/2015, alle ore 09:16, Reinhardt Behm <rbehm at hushmail.com>
> 
> ha scritto:
> > On Saturday 18 July 2015 08:59:53 Gianluca wrote:
> >> No you cannot !
> >> You are arising a problem that people was used to develop for desktop
> >> was not aware at the moment: the new Windows and Mac app stores. So,
> >> basically this is the scenario:
> >> - in the last 30 years desktop application was sold without using any
> >> store like windows and mac app store. LGPL was invented to give the
> >> possibility for developer to sell commercial product without paying
> >> licenses - in the recents years the world is changing. All
> >> application (as you noted, also windows and mac application) are now
> >> sold via dedicated store, both desktop and mobile app. For this case,
> >> the LGPL is old and (probably) not suitable for these cases. You are
> 
> screwed up !
> 
> > There are still many (the most) applications developed with Qt that
> > never will see any "app store".
> > Qt is used in many embedded an control systems where there is now use
> > fro any app store.
> > The software world consists of more than mobile and "app" worlds.
> > My programs i.e. work in certified avionics systems, flying in
> 
> helicopters.
> 
> 
> Yes, you are right. But we are talking of indie developer and mostly of them
> look for the new market (the old market are full by old developer). And the
> future of desktop and mobile application for the endusers are on the app
> stores. So, that's why we are all concerning about the license.
> 
> Let me compare your case with our case:
>  - you have a client that is a company and you sell directly to them, you
> can use LGPL and pay nothing for Qt. The companies are willing to pay more
> than endusers for support and service.
>  - we (indie new developer) trying to sell mobile and desktop application we
> are forced to use the app stores (you cannot anymore sell new softwares
> without using stores to the people, it's new trend :-( ), our customers are
> people that they want pay almost nothing for the app. We cannot use LGPL,
> and Qt will cost 350$/month.
> 
> You WIN !! We LOSE !!
> 
> How can we solve this problem ?
> 
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > 
> > Reinhardt Behm
> > 
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