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[Roland Hughes]

On 10/17/2017 12:54 PM, interest-request at qt-project.org wrote:
> On ter?a-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:11:13 PDT Roland Hughes wrote:
>>> The bug tracking system is under our control - it will not just
>>> disappear (from our perspective).
>> Oh yes it will!
>>
>> Speaking as someone who has heard that soooooo many times before, let's
>> just count a few for Qt shall we.
>>
>> The Trolltech bug database was never going to just disappear (from our
>> perspective). It did. A tiny fraction of the bugs migrated to the new
>> system but most were mass exterminated with
> The TT TT was not a public database. It existed internally only. When we
> switched to a public bugtracker, we could only export some entries since many
> had confidential customer information. Those that were exported had to be
> review by a person to make sure we were not violation any NDAs or
> confidentiality.
>
> That's the same reason why the code repository starts with Qt 4.5, not earlier
> versions.
>
>> "The version this bug is reported against is no longer supported..."
>>
>> The Nokia bug tracker was never going to just disappear (from our
>> perspective). It did. Few, if any of the older bugs made it into the
>> current database. Most were mass exterminated with
> There was no Nokia database. We switched straight from the internal tdb
> (that's what it was called) to JIRA.
There was a Nokia bug base as well, at least for a while. I and others 
entered bugs into it back in the day. Your argument also re-enforces a 
great many bugs "simply disappeared."
>
>> I hear from quite a few companies in similar boats. They started
>> development for a medical/industrial device which had a lengthy
>> testing/approval process, filed bug reports for that version only to see
>> them rot or fall victim to a mass extermination.
> Most open source projects don't support old versions, since they don't have
> the manpower to do so.
>
>> The current owners of Qt and the current OpenSource maintainers don't
>> offer or seem to understand the concept of an LTS (Long Term Support)
>> version. They are constantly pursuing script kiddies and that worthless
>> QML instead of maintaining the base which built them. This will soon
>> force a fork in the OpenSource project. One which rips out all of the
>> QML and focuses on nothing but bug fixes for 12 years. Yes, 12 years.
> Again, offence taken.
Take all of the offense you want. Medical devices and industrial 
controls need LTS versions, not resource hogging QML features. Qt's 
chasing of the idiot phone market which has 6 months at best life spans 
is alienating and chasing away the very industries which made Qt successful.
>
> I don't know who plans on forking. There's no such division in the community,
> so any attempt to do so will probably start with very few developers. Almost
> certainly, fewer than critical mass to maintain the codebase.
>
> See TQt (Trinity Project) for an example of a fork attempt.
It's easy to fork something you have been maintaining internally for 
years. There _IS_ such a division. You don't know about it because they 
don't come here. They justifiably believe they've been abandoned. The 
relentless pursuit of "new cool features" to please the phone crowd is 
causing the much larger medical device and industrial control industries 
to create their own LTS.

How many questions have you seen on here over the past 18 months about 
Qt 3? That project Harmman (sp?) calls about periodically sells north of 
a million units per year and the company is maintaining Qt 3 on its own 
so they can make minor product enhancements which don't have to go 
though multi-year clinical trials. They aren't the only calls I get 
about products using Qt 3, 4.2, and the most likely soon to be orphaned 
(if not already) 4.8. Every company I am contacted about using earlier 
versions has their own staff maintaining the code base today. They have 
had no other choice. If anything, joining forces with someone who is not 
a competitor but using the same tool set will lighten their load.

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