[Interest] represent QHostAddress as locale dependent string

[Manner Róbert]

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum <konrad at silmor.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, September 21, 2017 09:42, Manner Róbert wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Thiago Macieira
> > <thiago.macieira at intel.com>
> > wrote:
> >> IP addresses are not localiseable.
> >>
> >
> > I understand your point, and most probably there are bigger problems in
> > the
> > world than this... I just wish if I knew if this is really a problem for
> > arabic users, never using myself apps other than english.
> > I would suspect arabic users got used to that numbers look sometimes
> > arabic
> > sometimes not, similarly like us hungarians got used to the partial
> > translations half the app remaining in english, or even worse.
> >
> > Still, it could be a useful feature to add such a helper function
> > somewhere
> > in Qt: even if ip addresses are not localisable, numbers are. And ip
> > addresses are multiple numbers. If you would have such, perhaps more
> > applications would represent them correctly.
>
> You really do not want to open this can of worms!
>
> IPv4 uses dot separated decimal numbers. So far so good.
>
> European/Latin derived scripts are left to right. Arabic and other Semitic
> scripts are right to left. Fortunately they use the dot in a very similar
> way to Latin based scripts. However: after you translated the digits from
> Latin looking arabic numerals to arabic looking arabic numerals - do you
> sort the 4 numbers from left to right or from right to left?
>
> Japanese, Chinese and several other languages have similar properties.
> Some of them use different symbols instead of dots where Latin based
> scripts use the dot. How do you display IPv4 addresses there?
>
> IPv6 is even more interesting: it uses hexadecimal numbers separated by
> colons. In addition to the IPv4 problems: How do you translate the letters
> and what do you do with the colons?
>
> No other program tries to localize IP addresses precisely because it leads
> to these kinds of problems. Don't start! Keep it simple.
>
> Also: always using digits/letters/symbols from the latin plane of Unicode
> is a pretty good signal to the user that this is formatted left-to-right.
>
> BTW: we Europeans still use the same arabic order of digits (highest left)
> which is quite normal for arabic speakers (speaking the lowest digit
> first), but awkward for some European languages (like German where in most
> cases we also speak the lowest digit first in two-digit numbers but read
> from left to right or we need to count digits before we know what the
> first word is). But we think it is perfectly normal to do so!
>
> In short: stop worrying! The locals have developed ways to deal with those
> quirks.
>
>
>
Ok, I am convinced. Thanks for your time!

Robert


>
>     Konrad
>
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