From hkarel at yandex.ru  Sat Feb  3 10:48:08 2018
From: hkarel at yandex.ru (=?UTF-8?B?0JrQsNGA0LXQu9C40L0g0J/QsNCy0LXQuw==?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:48:08 +0300
Subject: [Localization] Display a phrase without translation
Message-ID: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>

Hi,

I ran into an unexpected problem: I need to output a phrase to the log 
file and be displayed in messages for the user. In the log file, the 
phrase should be without translation, but in the message for the user 
with the translation.
Is it possible to do this using only one instance of the phrase? Or do I 
have to duplicate the phrase?
For example:
   TO_LOG << "Hello world"
   TO_GUI  << tr("Hello world")   // Duplication


--
BR, Pavel Karelin

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From lyubomirv at abv.bg  Sat Feb  3 11:05:44 2018
From: lyubomirv at abv.bg (=?UTF-8?B?0JvRjtCx0L7QvNC40YAg0JLQsNGB0LjQu9C10LI=?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:05:44 +0200
Subject: [Localization] Display a phrase without translation
In-Reply-To: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
References: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <3f294fed-316d-84b5-c255-b5e0d35f2d6a@abv.bg>

Hi, Pavel

I do not know if Qt directly supports such a thing (someone else could 
comment), but I believe you can write a simple function for that. 
Something like:

void logAndGUI(const std::string& text)
{
     TO_LOG << text;
     TO_GUI << tr(text);
}

If you need arguments, that would require a bit more code but it is doable.

Good luck,

Lyubomir Vasilev


На 3.02.2018 в 11:48, Карелин Павел написа:
> Hi,
>
> I ran into an unexpected problem: I need to output a phrase to the log 
> file and be displayed in messages for the user. In the log file, the 
> phrase should be without translation, but in the message for the user 
> with the translation.
> Is it possible to do this using only one instance of the phrase? Or do 
> I have to duplicate the phrase?
> For example:
>   TO_LOG << "Hello world"
>   TO_GUI  << tr("Hello world")   // Duplication
>
>
> --
> BR, Pavel Karelin
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Localization mailing list
> Localization at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization

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From sergey.belyashov at gmail.com  Sat Feb  3 11:05:37 2018
From: sergey.belyashov at gmail.com (Sergey Belyashov)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 13:05:37 +0300
Subject: [Localization] Display a phrase without translation
In-Reply-To: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
References: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <CAOe0RDz6Zo9QyHcxrdyUhjjJgnRLT3t_CKJAhw1Zok8YwGCmNA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Open http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/i18n-source-translation.html and find
QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP in the page.

Best regards,
Sergey Belyashov

2018-02-03 12:48 GMT+03:00 Карелин Павел <hkarel at yandex.ru>:

> Hi,
>
> I ran into an unexpected problem: I need to output a phrase to the log
> file and be displayed in messages for the user. In the log file, the phrase
> should be without translation, but in the message for the user with the
> translation.
> Is it possible to do this using only one instance of the phrase? Or do I
> have to duplicate the phrase?
> For example:
>   TO_LOG << "Hello world"
>   TO_GUI  << tr("Hello world")   // Duplication
>
>
> --
> BR, Pavel Karelin
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Localization mailing list
> Localization at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization
>
>
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From hkarel at yandex.ru  Sat Feb  3 11:23:40 2018
From: hkarel at yandex.ru (=?UTF-8?B?0JrQsNGA0LXQu9C40L0g0J/QsNCy0LXQuw==?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 13:23:40 +0300
Subject: [Localization] Display a phrase without translation
In-Reply-To: <3f294fed-316d-84b5-c255-b5e0d35f2d6a@abv.bg>
References: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
	<3f294fed-316d-84b5-c255-b5e0d35f2d6a@abv.bg>
Message-ID: <ef69b194-9fae-70a2-8190-582ab1e5d8cb@yandex.ru>



03.02.2018 13:05, Любомир Василев пишет:
>
> Hi, Pavel
>
> I do not know if Qt directly supports such a thing (someone else could 
> comment), but I believe you can write a simple function for that. 
> Something like:
>
> void logAndGUI(const std::string& text)
> {
>     TO_LOG << text;
>     TO_GUI << tr(text);
> }
>
> If you need arguments, that would require a bit more code but it is 
> doable.
>
For one phrase this is quite acceptable, but I now have about ten of 
them, in the future there will be more.

> Good luck,
>
> Lyubomir Vasilev
>
>
> На 3.02.2018 в 11:48, Карелин Павел написа:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I ran into an unexpected problem: I need to output a phrase to the 
>> log file and be displayed in messages for the user. In the log file, 
>> the phrase should be without translation, but in the message for the 
>> user with the translation.
>> Is it possible to do this using only one instance of the phrase? Or 
>> do I have to duplicate the phrase?
>> For example:
>>   TO_LOG << "Hello world"
>>   TO_GUI  << tr("Hello world")   // Duplication
>>
>>
>> --
>> BR, Pavel Karelin
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Localization mailing list
>> Localization at qt-project.org
>> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Localization mailing list
> Localization at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization

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From hkarel at yandex.ru  Sat Feb  3 11:26:27 2018
From: hkarel at yandex.ru (=?UTF-8?B?0JrQsNGA0LXQu9C40L0g0J/QsNCy0LXQuw==?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 13:26:27 +0300
Subject: [Localization] Display a phrase without translation
In-Reply-To: <CAOe0RDz6Zo9QyHcxrdyUhjjJgnRLT3t_CKJAhw1Zok8YwGCmNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
	<CAOe0RDz6Zo9QyHcxrdyUhjjJgnRLT3t_CKJAhw1Zok8YwGCmNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <072f748e-d202-9b09-2577-c6a1ecc258e2@yandex.ru>



03.02.2018 13:05, Sergey Belyashov пишет:
> Hi,
> Open http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/i18n-source-translation.html and find 
> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP in the page.
Sergey, could you explain with an example how I can use 
QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP in this situation.
Thanks.

>
> Best regards,
> Sergey Belyashov
>
> 2018-02-03 12:48 GMT+03:00 Карелин Павел <hkarel at yandex.ru 
> <mailto:hkarel at yandex.ru>>:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I ran into an unexpected problem: I need to output a phrase to the
>     log file and be displayed in messages for the user. In the log
>     file, the phrase should be without translation, but in the message
>     for the user with the translation.
>     Is it possible to do this using only one instance of the phrase?
>     Or do I have to duplicate the phrase?
>     For example:
>       TO_LOG << "Hello world"
>       TO_GUI  << tr("Hello world")   // Duplication
>
>
>     --
>     BR, Pavel Karelin
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Localization mailing list
>     Localization at qt-project.org <mailto:Localization at qt-project.org>
>     http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization
>     <http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization>
>
>

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From hkarel at yandex.ru  Sat Feb  3 12:33:20 2018
From: hkarel at yandex.ru (=?UTF-8?B?0JrQsNGA0LXQu9C40L0g0J/QsNCy0LXQuw==?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 14:33:20 +0300
Subject: [Localization] Display a phrase without translation
In-Reply-To: <072f748e-d202-9b09-2577-c6a1ecc258e2@yandex.ru>
References: <d29e1a71-dfd7-9b49-be11-467d9fc86f42@yandex.ru>
	<CAOe0RDz6Zo9QyHcxrdyUhjjJgnRLT3t_CKJAhw1Zok8YwGCmNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<072f748e-d202-9b09-2577-c6a1ecc258e2@yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <a7ac2fe4-a50b-920b-0366-ef20d9cc735c@yandex.ru>

I smoked a little over the macro QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP. It seems something 
has turned out. I hope the translations will be displayed correctly when 
it is required.
Thanks.

03.02.2018 13:26, Карелин Павел пишет:
>
>
> 03.02.2018 13:05, Sergey Belyashov пишет:
>> Hi,
>> Open http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/i18n-source-translation.html and find 
>> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP in the page.
> Sergey, could you explain with an example how I can use 
> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP in this situation.
> Thanks.
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sergey Belyashov
>>
>> 2018-02-03 12:48 GMT+03:00 Карелин Павел <hkarel at yandex.ru 
>> <mailto:hkarel at yandex.ru>>:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I ran into an unexpected problem: I need to output a phrase to
>>     the log file and be displayed in messages for the user. In the
>>     log file, the phrase should be without translation, but in the
>>     message for the user with the translation.
>>     Is it possible to do this using only one instance of the phrase?
>>     Or do I have to duplicate the phrase?
>>     For example:
>>       TO_LOG << "Hello world"
>>       TO_GUI  << tr("Hello world")   // Duplication
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     BR, Pavel Karelin
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Localization mailing list
>>     Localization at qt-project.org <mailto:Localization at qt-project.org>
>>     http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization
>>     <http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization>
>>
>>
>

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From sujinikusityuu at gmail.com  Wed Feb  7 23:34:47 2018
From: sujinikusityuu at gmail.com (sujiniku)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 07:34:47 +0900
Subject: [Localization] Where can I translate Qt Framework?
Message-ID: <CAE1DRbC-AvwA+puOdvG6f0yRdgFRxNJ8m2Dwvx++F0sLeJhAfg@mail.gmail.com>

I currently translate Tiled, one of the applications using Qt.

This application uses Qt Framewaork, and of course, that part can not be
translated by Tiled's translation site.
Although Qt phrases such as "Discard" and "Cancel" are displayed in "Tiled"
application, they can not be translated on the Tiled website.
Therefore, I need to translate the Qt Framework.

So please let me know where Qt Framework can be translated.
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From meskobalazs at fedoraproject.org  Thu Feb  8 13:18:55 2018
From: meskobalazs at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?QmFsw6F6cyBNZXNrw7M=?=)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:18:55 +0100
Subject: [Localization] Where can I translate Qt Framework?
In-Reply-To: <CAE1DRbC-AvwA+puOdvG6f0yRdgFRxNJ8m2Dwvx++F0sLeJhAfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE1DRbC-AvwA+puOdvG6f0yRdgFRxNJ8m2Dwvx++F0sLeJhAfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABwzRtm+fjjAHek0nR+rZnKk81WHN98uH3FBBDbwpb8dv==EUw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Take a look here: https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_Localization
Basically you need to checkout the code from:
git://code.qt.io/qt/qttranslations.git,
do the translations, then push it to the Gerrit server.

Are you familiar with git or version control in general?

Regards,
Balázs

2018-02-07 23:34 GMT+01:00 sujiniku <sujinikusityuu at gmail.com>:

> I currently translate Tiled, one of the applications using Qt.
>
> This application uses Qt Framewaork, and of course, that part can not be
> translated by Tiled's translation site.
> Although Qt phrases such as "Discard" and "Cancel" are displayed in
> "Tiled" application, they can not be translated on the Tiled website.
> Therefore, I need to translate the Qt Framework.
>
> So please let me know where Qt Framework can be translated.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Localization mailing list
> Localization at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization
>
>
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From scootergrisen at gmail.com  Thu Feb  8 16:14:27 2018
From: scootergrisen at gmail.com (scootergrisen)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 16:14:27 +0100
Subject: [Localization] Where can I translate Qt Framework?
In-Reply-To: <CAE1DRbC-AvwA+puOdvG6f0yRdgFRxNJ8m2Dwvx++F0sLeJhAfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE1DRbC-AvwA+puOdvG6f0yRdgFRxNJ8m2Dwvx++F0sLeJhAfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7d908bc1-df49-8dbc-9ca5-8c50e08a8bd7@gmail.com>

Den 07-02-2018 kl. 23:34 skrev sujiniku:
> I currently translate Tiled, one of the applications using Qt.
> 
> This application uses Qt Framewaork, and of course, that part can not be 
> translated by Tiled's translation site.
> Although Qt phrases such as "Discard" and "Cancel" are displayed in 
> "Tiled" application, they can not be translated on the Tiled website.
> Therefore, I need to translate the Qt Framework.
> 
> So please let me know where Qt Framework can be translated.

The common strings like "Discard" etc. can be found in the qtbase file.
Look under Qt 5.10 to see if your language is there or under Templates.

In the Help > About Qt dialog you can see which version of Qt is used.
Sometimes newly release software does not use the newest Qt version so 
it might take some time to see your translation get used.

http://l10n-files.qt.io/l10n-files/


From sujinikusityuu at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 00:33:26 2018
From: sujinikusityuu at gmail.com (sujiniku)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 08:33:26 +0900
Subject: [Localization] Where can I translate Qt Framework?
In-Reply-To: <7d908bc1-df49-8dbc-9ca5-8c50e08a8bd7@gmail.com>
References: <CAE1DRbC-AvwA+puOdvG6f0yRdgFRxNJ8m2Dwvx++F0sLeJhAfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<7d908bc1-df49-8dbc-9ca5-8c50e08a8bd7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE1DRbCNNyWAnsHrWcJKNWU4efjd7k8rGYM2gy05GqQwbcJQKg@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, on my used OS, just it is old version Qt installed.

I used Fedora 27. When I looked at the install command in Fedora,
  qt 5 - qtbase - gui x86 - 64 5.9.4 - 1. fc 27 @ updates 16 M
As shown, the version of qt seems to be somewhat older 5.9.

Sorry to trouble you.

2018-02-09 0:14 GMT+09:00 scootergrisen <scootergrisen at gmail.com>:

> Den 07-02-2018 kl. 23:34 skrev sujiniku:
>
>> I currently translate Tiled, one of the applications using Qt.
>>
>> This application uses Qt Framewaork, and of course, that part can not be
>> translated by Tiled's translation site.
>> Although Qt phrases such as "Discard" and "Cancel" are displayed in
>> "Tiled" application, they can not be translated on the Tiled website.
>> Therefore, I need to translate the Qt Framework.
>>
>> So please let me know where Qt Framework can be translated.
>>
>
> The common strings like "Discard" etc. can be found in the qtbase file.
> Look under Qt 5.10 to see if your language is there or under Templates.
>
> In the Help > About Qt dialog you can see which version of Qt is used.
> Sometimes newly release software does not use the newest Qt version so it
> might take some time to see your translation get used.
>
> http://l10n-files.qt.io/l10n-files/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Localization mailing list
> Localization at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/localization
>
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From Eike.Ziller at qt.io  Mon Feb 26 10:41:35 2018
From: Eike.Ziller at qt.io (Eike Ziller)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 09:41:35 +0000
Subject: [Localization] Qt Creator 4.6 string freeze
Message-ID: <A069029D-05FF-4224-B56A-4EB6A7C4931A@qt.io>

A bit delayed, but since it is now a few days more than 2 weeks after 4.6 beta, let us move Qt Creator 4.6 into string freeze today, Monday Feb 26, EOB.

++ Eike

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Principal Software Engineer

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