[Localization] Should I build the "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts?

[Haowei Hsu]

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

There are only 2 things I want to confirm, which I already mentioned in the
previous replies:

One is:

If I *"don't need the suggestions"* from Qt Linguist, then I can simply:
>
>    1. use *"ts_zh_TW_cleaned"* target to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
>    2. do translations in qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
>    3. push the changes to Gerrit for review
>
> without using *"ts_zh_TW"* target and those complicated Git operations.
> Right?


The other is:

If the ts file generated by *"ts_zh_TW_cleaned"* is the one suitable to be
> pushed to the repo,
> does that mean I should abandon the current pushed changes related to
> *"ts_zh_TW"*?
>
>    - l10n(zh_TW): Update translations (Id8be4390) · Gerrit Code Review
>    (qt-project.org)
>    <https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt-creator/qt-creator/+/476711>
>    - l10n(zh_TW): lupdate qtcreator_zh_TW.ts (Ibbf9fd4f) · Gerrit Code
>    Review (qt-project.org)
>    <https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt-creator/qt-creator/+/476298>
>
> And then re-push a new *qtcreator_zh_TW.ts* lupdated by
> *"ts_zh_TW_cleaned"*?


---
Haowei Hsu

Eike Ziller <Eike.Ziller at qt.io> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午9:13寫道：

>
>
> > Am 10/05/2023 um 14:03 schrieb Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Alternatively, just provide another configure preset called
> "cmake-plugin-all", which includes
> > all the possible plugins in the BUILD_PLUGINS cache variables?
>
> I guess "cmake-plugin-minimal" is supposed to mean "only the plugins
> necessary for developing the CMakeProjectManager plugin".
>
> Building all possible plugins is the default, i.e. when not setting any
> BUILD_PLUGINS or BUILD_EXECUTABLES variables explicitly, so I'd suggest
> just not using a preset.
>
> Br, Eike
>
> >
> > ---
> > Haowei Hsu
> >
> > Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午8:00寫道：
> > Excuse me, Eike.
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, it is related to what items we specified in
> BUILD_PLUGINS cache variables, right?
> > Since I use the default configurePreset "cmake-plugin-minimal" to
> configure the project,
> > only those plugins specified in BUILD_PLUGINS cache variables will be
> enabled, right?
> > If so, then why not qtcreator adds all the possible plugins into the
> BUILD_PLUGINS in "cmake-plugin-minimal"?
> > Is there any reason not to do that? Or is it just that Qt Team forgot to
> modify CMakePresets.json?
> >
> > <image.png>
> > ---
> > Haowei Hsu
> >
> > Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午7:52寫道：
> > BTW, The following screenshot lists some packages which are not found:
> >
> > <image.png>
> >
> > Do I have to install all of them by Qt Maintenance Tools or other
> approaches?
> > ---
> > Haowei Hsu
> >
> > Eike Ziller <Eike.Ziller at qt.io> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午7:30寫道：
> >
> >
> > > Am 10/05/2023 um 13:12 schrieb Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Hello Eike.
> > >
> > > After using "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" target to lupdate the
> qtcreator_zh_TW.ts,
> > > those "vanished" and "obsolete" strings indeed disappeared.
> > >
> > > However, I noticed that the total components in this lupdated
> qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
> > > is way less than the current qtcreator_de.ts.
> > >     •
> > > The lupdated qtcreator_zh_TW.ts: about 36 components
> > >     • The current qtcreator_de.ts: over 100 components
> > >
> > > And one of the biggest differences between them is that the former
> > > (lupdated qtcreator_zh_TW.ts) doesn't have QmlDesigner::XXXX
> components.
> > >
> > > What happened? Is it normal? If not, what do I miss?
> >
> > It looks like when you configured Qt Creator with CMake, your Qt missed
> support for QmlDesigner.
> > The prerequisites are Qt >= 6.2.0 and the QtQuickWidgets and QtSvg
> modules.
> >
> > CMake prints a long list of "enabled" and "disabled" features after
> configuring, one of them is
> > * Plugin QmlDesigner, with CONDITION Qt6_VERSION VERSION_GREATER_EQUAL
> 6.2.0 AND TARGET Qt::QuickWidgets AND TARGET Qt::Svg
> > and that can be in a section "-- The following features have been
> enabled:" or "-- The following features have been disabled:".
> >
> > You could just ignore this for the time being, and start with the
> components ("contexts") that you have.
> >
> > Br, Eike
> >
> > >
> > > <image.png>
> > > <image.png>
> > > ---
> > > Haowei Hsu
> > >
> > > Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午5:43寫道：
> > > BTW,
> > >
> > > If the ts file generated by "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" is the one suitable to
> be pushed to the repo,
> > > does that mean I should abandon the current pushed changes related to
> "ts_zh_TW"?
> > >
> > > l10n(zh_TW): Update translations (Id8be4390) · Gerrit Code Review (
> qt-project.org)
> > > l10n(zh_TW): lupdate qtcreator_zh_TW.ts (Ibbf9fd4f) · Gerrit Code
> Review (qt-project.org)
> > >
> > > And then re-push a new qtcreator_zh_TW.ts lupdated by
> "ts_zh_TW_cleaned"?
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Haowei Hsu
> > >
> > > Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午5:37寫道：
> > > Got it!!
> > >  It leaves obsolete translations in the file, but does not include
> source code locations. Do not use ;)
> > >
> > > Then what about the following proposal?
> > >
> > > If I "don't need the suggestions" from Qt Linguist, then I can
> simply:   • use "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" target to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
> > >  • do translations in qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
> > >  • push the changes to Gerrit for review
> > >  without using "ts_zh_TW" target and those complicated Git operations.
> Right?
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Haowei Hsu
> > >
> > > Eike Ziller <Eike.Ziller at qt.io> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午5:27寫道：
> > >
> > >
> > > > Am 10/05/2023 um 10:15 schrieb Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > By the way, what about this target "ts_zh_TW_no_locations"?
> > > > What's the difference from the other two targets?
> > >
> > > It leaves obsolete translations in the file, but does not include
> source code locations. Do not use ;)
> > >
> > > Br, Eike
> > >
> > > >
> > > > <image.png>
> > > > ---
> > > > Haowei Hsu
> > > >
> > > > Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午4:12寫道：
> > > > Thanks for your detailed reply, Eike!!
> > > >
> > > > According to what you said,
> > > >
> > > > The ts_<lang> target creates .ts files that are good for using
> Linguist, but not suitable for submitting to the repository.
> > > > The ts_<lang>_cleaned target creates .ts files that are acceptable
> for the repository, but less suitable for Linguist
> > > >
> > > > If I "don't need the suggestions" from Qt Linguist, then I can
> simply:
> > > >     •
> > > > use "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" target to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
> > > >     • do translations in qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
> > > >     • push the changes to Gerrit for review
> > > >
> > > > without using "ts_zh_TW" target and those complicated Git
> operations. Right?
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Haowei Hsu
> > > >
> > > > Eike Ziller <Eike.Ziller at qt.io> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午3:10寫道：
> > > > I can mainly tell you what I do:
> > > >
> > > > The ts_<lang> target creates .ts files that are good for using
> Linguist, but not suitable for submitting to the repository.
> > > >
> > > > The ts_<lang>_cleaned target creates .ts files that are acceptable
> for the repository, but less suitable for Linguist, because it doesn't
> contain the code locations and not the outdated translations that Linguist
> sometimes can use to suggest translations.
> > > >
> > > > So what I do is:
> > > >
> > > > - create a .ts file for updating the repository with
> ts_<lang>_cleaned and commit and push that to gerrit.
> > > > - I locally revert that commit (git revert HEAD)
> > > > - I create the .ts file for working with Linguist with ts_<lang> and
> commit that locally. After that the revert from the second step can be
> removed (git rebase -i)
> > > > - I do my translations and do separate commits for these
> > > >
> > > > So I end up with commits
> > > >
> > > > - translation of Y
> > > > - translation of X
> > > > - ts update with ts_<lang>
> > > > - ts update with ts_<lang>_cleaned
> > > >
> > > > Before pushing the translation changes to gerrit, I rebase them to
> before the "full" ts update (the ts_<lang> one) with git rebase -i, so I
> end up with
> > > >
> > > > - ts update with ts_<lang>
> > > > - translation of Y
> > > > - translation of X
> > > > - ts update with ts_<lang>_cleaned
> > > >
> > > > and push the translations to gerrit with "git push gerrit
> HEAD~1:refs/for/<branch>". The "HEAD~1" means that it pushes everything
> except for the top commit, which in my case then is the ts update with
> ts_<lang> which I do not want on gerrit.
> > > >
> > > > Br, Eike
> > > >
> > > > > Am 10/05/2023 um 08:28 schrieb Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Oswald and Eike,
> > > > >
> > > > > Previously, I submitted a change for lupdating qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
> by running the cmake --build command with ts_zh_TW target:
> > > > >
> > > > > cmake --build . --target ts_zh_TW <...>
> > > > >
> > > > > However recently, I found that there are other targets available:
> > > > >
> > > > > <image.png>
> > > > >
> > > > > Should I use another two ts_zh_TW_xxx targets to lupdate the
> qtcreator_zh_TW.ts?
> > > > > Since I noticed that the current qtcreator_zh_TW.ts lupdated by
> ts_zh_TW target has many
> > > > > translation fields marked as "vanished" or "obsolete".
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Haowei Hsu
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Eike Ziller
> > > > Principal Software Engineer
> > > >
> > > > Qt Group
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> > > > 12489 Berlin, Germany
> > > > eike.ziller at qt.io
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eike Ziller
> > > Principal Software Engineer
> > >
> > > Qt Group
> > > Erich-Thilo-Straße 10
> > > 12489 Berlin, Germany
> > > eike.ziller at qt.io
> > > https://qt.io
> > > Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi,
> > > Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen
> > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht
> Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Eike Ziller
> > Principal Software Engineer
> >
> > Qt Group
> > Erich-Thilo-Straße 10
> > 12489 Berlin, Germany
> > eike.ziller at qt.io
> > https://qt.io
> > Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi,
> > Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen
> > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht
> Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B
> >
> >
>
> --
> Eike Ziller
> Principal Software Engineer
>
> Qt Group
> Erich-Thilo-Straße 10
> 12489 Berlin, Germany
> eike.ziller at qt.io
> https://qt.io
> Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi,
> Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht
> Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B
>
>
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