From abenito at kde.org  Thu Dec  1 20:38:07 2011
From: abenito at kde.org (Agustin Benito Bethencourt)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:38:07 +0100
Subject: [Marketing] List up and running
In-Reply-To: <CAOqNE30H7-m+BUvj1xeCJZjKXX6GeTRXKU2VNPR12fLrFNjuKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ECE1196.3000301@nokia.com> <4ED3EFB2.3050209@nokia.com>
	<CAOqNE30H7-m+BUvj1xeCJZjKXX6GeTRXKU2VNPR12fLrFNjuKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1710856.dzcDCYCXTs@galdos>

Hi,

I'm Agustin Benito (toscalix). I'm a KDE contributor in business/promo/events 
areas. You can check more personal info through my Linkedin profile: 
http://es.linkedin.com/in/toscalix

Regards
-- 
Agustin Benito Bethencourt
Profile: http://es.linkedin.com/in/toscalix


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Dec  2 23:04:30 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:04:30 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Fwd: [Interest] Call for Qt on Raspberry Pi mentors
In-Reply-To: <4ED8FFFD.5040701@nokia.com>
References: <4ED8FFFD.5040701@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4ED94B6E.3050308@nokia.com>

Hi, notice this line below referring to areas looking for mentors:


 > Promotion of the projects through video production and blogging.


Anybody in this list feeling like mentoring / coordinating the 
production of videos featuring Qt 5 on Raspberry Pi projects and helping 
out with their promotion?

This could be the beginning of a Qt Project media team...

--
Quim


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Interest] Call for Qt on Raspberry Pi mentors
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:42:37 -0800
From: ext Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com>
To: interest at qt-project.org <interest at qt-project.org>

(((Using the interest list while we get the QtonPi mailing list -
already requested)))

Blog post at
http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/12/02/call-for-qt-on-raspberry-pi-mentors/
- pasted here for convenience:


We are impressed by the speed, depth and breath of the response to our
call for Qt 5 on Raspberry Pi projects [1]. We have more than 400
candidates [2] for the 400 boards we expect to have as soon as the
Raspberry Pi Foundation is ready! The list is growing, and if you have
an idea in mind we still encourage you to apply.

But your question is: am I getting one? When will I know?

Rajiv, co-maintainer of this project, has a proposal on how to proceed.
It solves not only the problem of deciding who gets one, but also
answers other reasonable questions:

* How do we bootstrap this project in a sustainable way?
* How to minimize the risk of duplicated work, missed shots, people lost?
* How to make it more productive and fun for those getting boards and
those not getting them yet or from us?
* How to promote novices to get involved as well as experts?
* (and more worries we have, but this is getting boring)

So here is the proposal: articulate the distribution of boards around
development areas driven by mentors, and involve those mentors in the
selection of fortunate developers.

Good examples of mentors can be Qt Project maintainers and approvers,
professionals working full time in Qt related projects, open source
developers with a community reputation.

We expect the areas proposed to fit within these layers for Raspberry Pi:

* Qt 5 App development projects: ports of existing apps and creation of
new ones.
* Qt 5 framework development, testing, optimization – This includes Qt
Quick, Qt WebKit and documentation.
* Enhancing the SDK, which is based on Qt Creator.
* Platform development: Linux Kernel, Graphics and Multimedia enablers
and other dependencies of Qt 5 and the SDK.
* Promotion of the projects through video production and blogging.
Apply to become a mentor

Just go to https://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Device_program#Mentors and
tell us in a couple of lines and links who you are, which area you can
mentor and some examples of projects proposed that could fit in your area.

You need to have time available to facilitate the activity around your
area. You shouldn’t be the only one doing the work, but you will be the
one setting the initial level and getting new contributors on board.

All mentors will be announced by the end of December 7th. These mentors
must create a wiki page specific to their area and must select the
candidates to be accepted by the end of December 12th.

Mentors and participants will receive the instructions to get the boards
after being accepted.

Please be fast. We want to get these 400 boards to their new owners asap!

[1]
http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/11/24/qt-5-with-rasberry-pi-a-delicious-mix-with-home-delivery/
[2] http://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Device_program

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Quim
_______________________________________________
Interest mailing list
Interest at qt-project.org
http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec  6 00:56:28 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 15:56:28 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] FOSDEM & Qt Project
Message-ID: <4EDD5A2C.7080206@nokia.com>

Hi, this is the first call to this mailing list: we have a week to 
decide the fundamentals of what we do at FOSDEM.

Brussels, Feb 4-5
http://forsdem.org

We seem to have missed the chance to submit a session to the main track. 
Pity, because I bet a Qt Project introduction spiced up with the last 
developments of Qt 5 + demo would have been gladly received by that 
audience.

Still, there are good chances to be active in FOSDEM:

Call for stands
http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands
Is there interest and critical mass to man properly a booth?

Call for Lightning Talks
http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks
Who can submit a proposal to pitch the Qt Project and/or Qt 5?

... and the DevRooms.
DevRooms are still receiving proposals, and as far as I know each one is 
organized quite autonomously.

The list of DevRooms can be found at 
http://fosdem.org/2012/devrooms_for_2012

We have good contacts at "Cross Desktop" and "Open Mobile Linux". Other 
DevRooms might be interested in Qt related content since we really don't 
fit in only one place e.f. "Embedded" or "Open Source Game Development".

Also, if there is critical mass we could aim to organize a Qt 
Contributors Day e.g. on Feb 3rd (Friday, with time to reach the Fosdem 
Beer Party)  ;)

Thoughts? Volunteers?

--
Quim


From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Tue Dec  6 02:21:08 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:21:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] FOSDEM & Qt Project
In-Reply-To: <4EDD5A2C.7080206@nokia.com>
References: <4EDD5A2C.7080206@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1917180318.953401.1323134468726.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

Traveling to FOSDEM is not an option for me, but I will gladly help anyone who
is going in any way I am able.  That mainly includes graphics work of any kind
and/or writing (instructional, promotional, etc).
 
Randy 

 


On December 5, 2011 at 6:56 PM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

> Hi, this is the first call to this mailing list: we have a week to
> decide the fundamentals of what we do at FOSDEM.
>
> Brussels, Feb 4-5
> http://forsdem.org
>
> We seem to have missed the chance to submit a session to the main track.
> Pity, because I bet a Qt Project introduction spiced up with the last
> developments of Qt 5 + demo would have been gladly received by that
> audience.
>
> Still, there are good chances to be active in FOSDEM:
>
> Call for stands
> http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands
> Is there interest and critical mass to man properly a booth?
>
> Call for Lightning Talks
> http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks
> Who can submit a proposal to pitch the Qt Project and/or Qt 5?
>
> ... and the DevRooms.
> DevRooms are still receiving proposals, and as far as I know each one is
> organized quite autonomously.
>
> The list of DevRooms can be found at
> http://fosdem.org/2012/devrooms_for_2012
>
> We have good contacts at "Cross Desktop" and "Open Mobile Linux". Other
> DevRooms might be interested in Qt related content since we really don't
> fit in only one place e.f. "Embedded" or "Open Source Game Development".
>
> Also, if there is critical mass we could aim to organize a Qt
> Contributors Day e.g. on Feb 3rd (Friday, with time to reach the Fosdem
> Beer Party)  ;)
>
> Thoughts? Volunteers?
>
> --
> Quim
> _______________________________________________
> Marketing mailing list
> Marketing at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketingRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec  6 17:44:53 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:44:53 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] FOSDEM & Qt Project
In-Reply-To: <1917180318.953401.1323134468726.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
References: <4EDD5A2C.7080206@nokia.com>
	<1917180318.953401.1323134468726.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
Message-ID: <4EDE4685.4020509@nokia.com>

On 12/05/2011 05:21 PM, ext Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> Traveling to FOSDEM is not an option for me, but I will gladly help
> anyone who is going in any way I am able. That mainly includes graphics
> work of any kind and/or writing (instructional, promotional, etc).

Thanks! I don't thing we need to produce specific Qt swag for this 
activity, though.

Anybody interested in pushing proposals to the DevRooms? Anybody 
interested in discussing stand or possibility of Qt Contributors Day?

--
Quim



From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Tue Dec  6 17:49:47 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:49:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] FOSDEM & Qt Project
In-Reply-To: <4EDE4685.4020509@nokia.com>
References: <4EDD5A2C.7080206@nokia.com>
	<1917180318.953401.1323134468726.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
	<4EDE4685.4020509@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <490665618.240748.1323190187856.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

I don't mean swag-- I mean that if anyone who is presenting would like
assistance with their materials, I am glad to offer my time and talent in
design, copywriting, etc.  That includes presentations, stand displays, etc.
 
Randy

 


On December 6, 2011 at 11:44 AM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

> On 12/05/2011 05:21 PM, ext Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> > Traveling to FOSDEM is not an option for me, but I will gladly help
> > anyone who is going in any way I am able. That mainly includes graphics
> > work of any kind and/or writing (instructional, promotional, etc).
>
> Thanks! I don't thing we need to produce specific Qt swag for this
> activity, though.
>
> Anybody interested in pushing proposals to the DevRooms? Anybody
> interested in discussing stand or possibility of Qt Contributors Day?
>
> --
> Quim
>Randall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 00:42:49 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:42:49 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities
In-Reply-To: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB323F3@008-AM1MPN1-062.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB323F3@008-AM1MPN1-062.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EDEA879.9090501@nokia.com>

Priorities proposed:

http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing

In the worst case scenario I'll use them to organize my own work. In the 
best case all of you will run to get involved in a way or another. There 
is cool stuff to do for everybody, from hobbyists to professionals, from 
independents to employees, in any corner of the World.

If something is missing add it to the queue and discuss it here. In any 
case probably nobody stops you from pushing your priorities until 
completion!

There are many tasks without anybody looking seriously at them. Please, 
look at them carefully.

There are many tasks having my name as main contact. In fact more than I 
wish. I'm welcoming help, from occasional contributors to serious 
challengers ousting me out of these responsibilities. :)


On 11/30/2011 06:10 AM, ext quim.gil at nokia.com wrote:
> Hi, if you had to decide the top three priorities of the Qt Project in
> terms of marketing, events, collaboration, outreach... What goals would
> you take?

I got more RT and +1 about this than actual feedback...  ;)

Still, thank you very much to those that did provide feedback, either 
online or live at Qt Dev Days SF.

If you want have a say you are not late! In fact defining priorities is 
an ongoing process.

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 06:14:31 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (quim.gil at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 05:14:31 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
Message-ID: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F18@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>


When asking about Qt Project marketing priorities a clear feedback was the articulation of local groups.

Here we go: https://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups

DISCLAIMER: a year ago I was pushing from scratch the creation of Local MeeGo Networks. I don't need to tell you about the fate of the MeeGo project but I think most would agree that those local groups were one of th best things that happened to the MeeGo community. We took a *very* pragmatic and decentralized apprach, making it really easy to create a local group and make it grow as much as the corresponding local interest. A possibility of building regional networks existed wherever local groups were stronger. Autonomy and self-sustainability was encouraged, and the MeeGo project would try to help only when bigger / more complex demands would appear.

I believe that we can follow the same principles and, in fact, recycle that MeeGo legacy wherever the local groups have an affinity with Qt and a willingness to meet further. Combine this with the rich and well articulated Qt community (from parts of the KDE project to dozens of companies in many countries and many independent contributors) and I believe we have not one but many winners.

Please share your opinions about this model and, in any case, express your interest in having a Qt local group where your feet are right now.

--
Quim

From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 06:15:36 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (quim.gil at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 05:15:36 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F18@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F18@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F28@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>

(((Better link)))

When asking about Qt Project marketing priorities a clear feedback was the articulation of local groups.

Here we go: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups

DISCLAIMER: a year ago I was pushing from scratch the creation of Local MeeGo Networks. I don't need to tell you about the fate of the MeeGo project but I think most would agree that those local groups were one of th best things that happened to the MeeGo community. We took a *very* pragmatic and decentralized apprach, making it really easy to create a local group and make it grow as much as the corresponding local interest. A possibility of building regional networks existed wherever local groups were stronger. Autonomy and self-sustainability was encouraged, and the MeeGo project would try to help only when bigger / more complex demands would appear.

I believe that we can follow the same principles and, in fact, recycle that MeeGo legacy wherever the local groups have an affinity with Qt and a willingness to meet further. Combine this with the rich and well articulated Qt community (from parts of the KDE project to dozens of companies in many countries and many independent contributors) and I believe we have not one but many winners.

Please share your opinions about this model and, in any case, express your interest in having a Qt local group where your feet are right now.

--
Quim
_______________________________________________
Marketing mailing list
Marketing at qt-project.org
http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 17:26:33 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:26:33 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F28@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F18@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F28@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EDF93B9.70600@nokia.com>

On 12/06/2011 09:15 PM, ext quim.gil at nokia.com wrote:
> (((Better link)))
>
> When asking about Qt Project marketing priorities a clear feedback
> was the articulation of local groups.
>
> Here we go: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups

Local groups are also key to prioritize and expand Qt Project activities.

For instance, I just learned about http://www.opensourcedays.org/ and 
event hosted in Copenhagen. They must have an interest in Qt since their 
call for participation mentions it. However, I have really no idea about 
the relevance, style and "local karma" of this event so for me it's 
difficult to make any kind of recommendation. However, I bet for a 
Copenhagen Qt Network (or however we want to call them) it would be 
peanuts to get an opinion and, if interesting, collaborate for a better 
presence there.

And we are talking about an example in Western Europe, having English as 
primary language! The need is even higher in China, Russia, Indonesia 
(long etc) where there are large developer communities organizing events 
that people like me are mostly unaware of, and won't even find in an 
online search unless managing the local language(s).

Ideas? Who wants to step in?

--
Quim


From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 18:31:27 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:31:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <4EDF93B9.70600@nokia.com>
References: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB46F18@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
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	<4EDF93B9.70600@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <402313237.753511.1323279087740.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

Quim as a "local networker" you know I'm 100% in agreement here, especially your
previous comments relating back to MeeGo.
 
When we were developing the local groups "management" (and I hate using that
word here, maybe there's a better one) on the wiki it was a little rough at
first but we definitely refined the model and got it to working well just before
the plug was pulled.  I think what we arrived at could easily work for Qt.
 
One con with MeeGo groups was the number of solutions people were using
(Meetup.com, Facebook, etc) BUT with the right organizer, and focus on one
master (ie, wiki) as the central info site, coordinationcan work well.  With
that said, I still believe a master calendar is critical for scheduling, sharing
and discovering activities at all levels.
 
I also disagreed with the MeeGo philosophy that posted events had to include
MeeGo-specific content; for instance, I could see an HTML5-focused event as
useful for Qt developers even if Qt was not specifically mentioned... and
therefore worth posting to community events.  But of course event content would
need to be somehow relevant.
 
Qt seems to be almost non-existent in Texas so my challenge is to build
something from scratch.  Not impossible, but will depend highly on available
devices.  So I will work on a device developer program for Qt (like I did MeeGo)
if everyone sees merit.
 
Randy

 


On December 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

> On 12/06/2011 09:15 PM, ext quim.gil at nokia.com wrote:
> > (((Better link)))
> >
> > When asking about Qt Project marketing priorities a clear feedback
> > was the articulation of local groups.
> >
> > Here we go: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups
>
> Local groups are also key to prioritize and expand Qt Project activities.
>
> For instance, I just learned about http://www.opensourcedays.org/ and
> event hosted in Copenhagen. They must have an interest in Qt since their
> call for participation mentions it. However, I have really no idea about
> the relevance, style and "local karma" of this event so for me it's
> difficult to make any kind of recommendation. However, I bet for a
> Copenhagen Qt Network (or however we want to call them) it would be
> peanuts to get an opinion and, if interesting, collaborate for a better
> presence there.
>
> And we are talking about an example in Western Europe, having English as
> primary language! The need is even higher in China, Russia, Indonesia
> (long etc) where there are large developer communities organizing events
> that people like me are mostly unaware of, and won't even find in an
> online search unless managing the local language(s).
>
> Ideas? Who wants to step in?
>
> --
> Quim
> _______________________________________________
> Marketing mailing list
> Marketing at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketingRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
+18177396806
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 19:53:20 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:53:20 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <402313237.753511.1323279087740.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
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(CCing Knut and Alexandra since they are key to this discussion and I'm 
not sure whether they are in the marketing list already)

Context: we are discussing http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups - 
more below.

On 12/07/2011 09:31 AM, ext Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> Quim as a "local networker" you know I'm 100% in agreement here,
> especially your previous comments relating back to MeeGo.

I have got more backing to this idea in other channels but all of it 
came from people familiar with these MeeGo networks. More backing and 
any alternative ideas are welcome before we decide the way forward.

> When we were developing the local groups "management" (and I hate using
> that word here, maybe there's a better one) on the wiki it was a little
> rough at first but we definitely refined the model and got it to working
> well just before the plug was pulled. I think what we arrived at could
> easily work for Qt.
>
> One con with MeeGo groups was the number of solutions people were using
> (Meetup.com, Facebook, etc) BUT with the right organizer, and focus on
> one master (ie, wiki) as the central info site, coordination can work
> well. With that said, I still believe a master calendar is critical for
> scheduling, sharing and discovering activities at all levels.

The discussion about tools is in fact divided in two pieces:

- What tools use each group to organize and discuss themselves.
Perhaps the Qt Project is / will be better equipped to offer all the 
tools needed. What are the needs? There is also the aspect of promotion, 
and this is why each group used the most popular channels in their area. 
Meetup or Facebook might be perfect for a location while being 
irrelevant or directly banned in another area. Ideally the basic needs 
would be satisfied within qt-project.org and then each group could 
extend their calls in whatever channels they prefer to use.

- What calendar tool do we use as Qt Project to follow all the activity 
going on, or just whatever matters to us. local groups are key in this 
discussion but it affects many other areas. I have opened fire at 
http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events#Looking_for_the_right_calendar_tool 
and everybody is invited to push this discussion (in a thread apart, 
please) until we reach to a conclusion.


> I also disagreed with the MeeGo philosophy that posted events had to
> include MeeGo-specific content; for instance, I could see an
> HTML5-focused event as useful for Qt developers even if Qt was not
> specifically mentioned... and therefore worth posting to community
> events. But of course event content would need to be somehow relevant.

I don't think we are going to have any problems on this. As long as it's 
interesting enough for a Qt contributors to list it and it's not spam I 
don't see the harm in adding it.



> Qt seems to be almost non-existent in Texas so my challenge is to build
> something from scratch. Not impossible, but will depend highly on
> available devices. So I will work on a device developer program for Qt
> (like I did MeeGo) if everyone sees merit.

Something I would love to see is the possibility to tag / categorize the 
location of qt-project.org individual users and organizations. As a 
result anybody could go and find out who is in Dallas specifically, or 
in Texas, or in USA... A way to do this is to use MediaWiki categories, 
just like Wikipedia does. However, there seems to be still an ongoing 
debate about the wiki tool the Qt Project should finally use...

Now the closest that comes to mind is

http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Plano-TX/
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Dallas-TX/
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Cypress-TX/
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/San-Antonio-TX/
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/groups/qt_usa/members

which is better than nothing but, I agree, far from ideal.

--
Quim


> On December 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
>  > On 12/06/2011 09:15 PM, ext quim.gil at nokia.com wrote:
>  > > (((Better link)))
>  > >
>  > > When asking about Qt Project marketing priorities a clear feedback
>  > > was the articulation of local groups.
>  > >
>  > > Here we go: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups
>  >
>  > Local groups are also key to prioritize and expand Qt Project
> activities.
>  >
>  > For instance, I just learned about http://www.opensourcedays.org/ and
>  > event hosted in Copenhagen. They must have an interest in Qt since their
>  > call for participation mentions it. However, I have really no idea about
>  > the relevance, style and "local karma" of this event so for me it's
>  > difficult to make any kind of recommendation. However, I bet for a
>  > Copenhagen Qt Network (or however we want to call them) it would be
>  > peanuts to get an opinion and, if interesting, collaborate for a better
>  > presence there.
>  >
>  > And we are talking about an example in Western Europe, having English as
>  > primary language! The need is even higher in China, Russia, Indonesia
>  > (long etc) where there are large developer communities organizing events
>  > that people like me are mostly unaware of, and won't even find in an
>  > online search unless managing the local language(s).
>  >
>  > Ideas? Who wants to step in?
>  >
>  > --
>  > Quim
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Marketing mailing list
>  > Marketing at qt-project.org
>  > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>
> Randall (Randy) Arnold
> Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
> http://texrat.net
> +18177396806
>



From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 20:02:31 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:02:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <4EDFB620.4000107@nokia.com>
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Thanks Quim, I did not know about the Dallas Qt Meetup group and it did not show
up in my searches.
 
With ony 1 member (2 with me joining) that is a bit discouraging.  However, I
have around 50 members still lurking in the Dallas area MeeGo group so I will
work toward consolidation.
 
Randy

 


On December 7, 2011 at 1:53 PM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

> (CCing Knut and Alexandra since they are key to this discussion and I'm
> not sure whether they are in the marketing list already)
>
> Context: we are discussing http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups -
> more below.
>
> On 12/07/2011 09:31 AM, ext Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> > Quim as a "local networker" you know I'm 100% in agreement here,
> > especially your previous comments relating back to MeeGo.
>
> I have got more backing to this idea in other channels but all of it
> came from people familiar with these MeeGo networks. More backing and
> any alternative ideas are welcome before we decide the way forward.
>
> > When we were developing the local groups "management" (and I hate using
> > that word here, maybe there's a better one) on the wiki it was a little
> > rough at first but we definitely refined the model and got it to working
> > well just before the plug was pulled. I think what we arrived at could
> > easily work for Qt.
> >
> > One con with MeeGo groups was the number of solutions people were using
> > (Meetup.com, Facebook, etc) BUT with the right organizer, and focus on
> > one master (ie, wiki) as the central info site, coordination can work
> > well. With that said, I still believe a master calendar is critical for
> > scheduling, sharing and discovering activities at all levels.
>
> The discussion about tools is in fact divided in two pieces:
>
> - What tools use each group to organize and discuss themselves.
> Perhaps the Qt Project is / will be better equipped to offer all the
> tools needed. What are the needs? There is also the aspect of promotion,
> and this is why each group used the most popular channels in their area.
> Meetup or Facebook might be perfect for a location while being
> irrelevant or directly banned in another area. Ideally the basic needs
> would be satisfied within qt-project.org and then each group could
> extend their calls in whatever channels they prefer to use.
>
> - What calendar tool do we use as Qt Project to follow all the activity
> going on, or just whatever matters to us. local groups are key in this
> discussion but it affects many other areas. I have opened fire at
> http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events#Looking_for_the_right_calendar_tool
> and everybody is invited to push this discussion (in a thread apart,
> please) until we reach to a conclusion.
>
>
> > I also disagreed with the MeeGo philosophy that posted events had to
> > include MeeGo-specific content; for instance, I could see an
> > HTML5-focused event as useful for Qt developers even if Qt was not
> > specifically mentioned... and therefore worth posting to community
> > events. But of course event content would need to be somehow relevant.
>
> I don't think we are going to have any problems on this. As long as it's
> interesting enough for a Qt contributors to list it and it's not spam I
> don't see the harm in adding it.
>
>
>
> > Qt seems to be almost non-existent in Texas so my challenge is to build
> > something from scratch. Not impossible, but will depend highly on
> > available devices. So I will work on a device developer program for Qt
> > (like I did MeeGo) if everyone sees merit.
>
> Something I would love to see is the possibility to tag / categorize the
> location of qt-project.org individual users and organizations. As a
> result anybody could go and find out who is in Dallas specifically, or
> in Texas, or in USA... A way to do this is to use MediaWiki categories,
> just like Wikipedia does. However, there seems to be still an ongoing
> debate about the wiki tool the Qt Project should finally use...
>
> Now the closest that comes to mind is
>
> http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Plano-TX/
> http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Dallas-TX/
> http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Cypress-TX/
> http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/San-Antonio-TX/
> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/groups/qt_usa/members
>
> which is better than nothing but, I agree, far from ideal.
>
> --
> Quim
>
>
> > On December 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> >
> >  > On 12/06/2011 09:15 PM, ext quim.gil at nokia.com wrote:
> >  > > (((Better link)))
> >  > >
> >  > > When asking about Qt Project marketing priorities a clear feedback
> >  > > was the articulation of local groups.
> >  > >
> >  > > Here we go: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_local_groups
> >  >
> >  > Local groups are also key to prioritize and expand Qt Project
> > activities.
> >  >
> >  > For instance, I just learned about http://www.opensourcedays.org/ and
> >  > event hosted in Copenhagen. They must have an interest in Qt since their
> >  > call for participation mentions it. However, I have really no idea about
> >  > the relevance, style and "local karma" of this event so for me it's
> >  > difficult to make any kind of recommendation. However, I bet for a
> >  > Copenhagen Qt Network (or however we want to call them) it would be
> >  > peanuts to get an opinion and, if interesting, collaborate for a better
> >  > presence there.
> >  >
> >  > And we are talking about an example in Western Europe, having English as
> >  > primary language! The need is even higher in China, Russia, Indonesia
> >  > (long etc) where there are large developer communities organizing events
> >  > that people like me are mostly unaware of, and won't even find in an
> >  > online search unless managing the local language(s).
> >  >
> >  > Ideas? Who wants to step in?
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > Quim
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Marketing mailing list
> >  > Marketing at qt-project.org
> >  > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >
> > Randall (Randy) Arnold
> > Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
> > http://texrat.net
> > +18177396806
> >
>Randall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
+18177396806
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 20:04:35 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:04:35 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities: aKademy
In-Reply-To: <CAJb_6051xhGe_X0yTwasxZv9Y7TJCuodWCQ50Juzu87GWhWsBg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4EDFB8C3.5080902@nokia.com>

About http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing priorities.

On 12/07/2011 10:48 AM, ext Tomasz Siekierda wrote:
> Hi Quim (I assume that's not a surname, sorry if I happen to be mistaken)

Quim is my name, yes. Hi Tomasz!

> as for the list of priorities, point 2 - aKademy 2012 is already set,
> you can get more info here - http://akademy2012.kde.org/, it includes
> both place and dates.

Yes, at least we know the dates and location (Tallinn, Estonia - June 30 
- July 6). But all the rest still needs to be defined, including who 
will be the main contact for this activity.

In the times of Qt-by-Nokia there was a Nokia team, a Nokia sponsorship, 
activities organized by Nokia... The interest of Nokia in this event is 
as high as before but in the context of the Qt Project some things needs 
to be done differently: do we want to have "Qt" as sponsor? Do other 
organizations want to be involved in Qt related activities? Is this 
about each company / project just going ahead or do we aim to have some 
coordination at a Qt Project level?

Making up our mind will also help the KDE project addressing the Qt 
ecosystem this time: do they knock Nokia's door as usual for Qt related 
stuff or what are they supposed to do now? I don't see a big issue here, 
it just needs to be discussed and this is the perfect place to do so. 
Thanks for starting the discussion!

--
Quim


From sierdzio at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 20:10:46 2011
From: sierdzio at gmail.com (Tomasz Siekierda)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:10:46 +0100
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities
In-Reply-To: <CAJb_6051xhGe_X0yTwasxZv9Y7TJCuodWCQ50Juzu87GWhWsBg@mail.gmail.com>
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// Note: resending due to wrong address specified earlier

Hi Quim (I assume that's not a surname, sorry if I happen to be mistaken)

as for the list of priorities, point 2 - aKademy 2012 is already set,
you can get more info here - http://akademy2012.kde.org/, it includes
both place and dates.

As for 7. (news), I guess the official blogs on Nokia's site are OK
for now, but probably a separate system should be established on
qt-project.org, so that approvers and maintainers from outside of
Nokia can blog about some important developments. Also, I would
suggest the Labs blogs move there. It would be very good if the blogs
would reside in one place only - having to switch between Nokia and
qt-project would be confusing.

Another idea, maybe a bit more abstract, is to ask maintainers/ active
commiters and approvers to write occasionally on what is going on in
their part of the project. Qt is huge, and keeping up-to-date even in
a single module is difficult.

Cheers,
sierdzio


From adam.weinrich at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 20:59:46 2011
From: adam.weinrich at nokia.com (adam.weinrich at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 19:59:46 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <<1302844475.759570.1323284551483.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com>
Message-ID: <CB0529B9.32FA5%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>


<randall.arnold at texrat.net<mailto:randall.arnold at texrat.net>> wrote:
> > Qt seems to be almost non-existent in Texas so my challenge is to build
> > something from scratch. Not impossible, but will depend highly on
> > available devices. So I will work on a device developer program for Qt
> > (like I did MeeGo) if everyone sees merit.

Actually Qt has a huge user base  in Texas.  We even had mini Qt DevDays in Houston a few years back.  Much of the usage is because Oil&Gas is deep into Qt across the board.   Its Traditional vs cutting edge: desktop, not devices. C++ Qt, not cutting edge QML, Commercial, not LGPL.  Some are still migrating off Tk, Motif and MFC to Qt with millions of lines of code.   So how to tap these Qt users and engage them to participate is a challenge, especially when your interests differ.

What they are doing could be considered part of the the larger visualization field which also includes Qt as defacto standard in Medical Imaging research (which is much more open and accessible).
Visualization needs traditionally relate to huge datasets, performance (GPU rendering) and OpenGL wrapping with Qt on the desktop- but might open future opportunities for Qt in mobile visualization.
Im brainstorming about ways to engage the visualization 'communities' and other industries that have broad Qt commonalities but might also be competitors. They are treasure troves of knowledge stuck in corporate silos.   If anyone has ideas please share.
Best Regards,
-Adam
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From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 21:07:56 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:07:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
In-Reply-To: <CB0529B9.32FA5%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
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Thanks Adam.  I spoke a bit broadly, but then, previous extensive searches
(mostly for Dallas and Austin) came up almost dry.  I also mean "community", and
mostly "mobile" although I left that out and should have specified.
 
I know there was a Qt dev event in Dallas a while back but afterward I was
unable to see any traction.  For the mobile side, the problem has largely been
with device availability here.
 
One thing I should have also noted: I am co-founder and organizer for DFW
MakerFest to be held November 2012 (dfwmakerfest.org).  This is very
hacker/hobbyist/etc oriented.  Our target audience should include Qt developers
and I will make sure that there is the proper outreach (I am in contact with
Raspberry Pi folks for possible involvement).  Any help there is appreciated! 
Please follow @DFWMakerFest on twitter if you are interested, and/or
emailinfo at dfwmakerfest.org [mailto:info at dfwmakerfest.org]
 
Randy
 


On December 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:

>
> <randall.arnold at texrat.net<mailto:randall.arnold at texrat.net>> wrote:
> > > Qt seems to be almost non-existent in Texas so my challenge is to build
> > > something from scratch. Not impossible, but will depend highly on
> > > available devices. So I will work on a device developer program for Qt
> > > (like I did MeeGo) if everyone sees merit.
>
> Actually Qt has a huge user base  in Texas.  We even had mini Qt DevDays in
> Houston a few years back.  Much of the usage is because Oil&Gas is deep into
> Qt across the board.   Its Traditional vs cutting edge: desktop, not devices.
> C++ Qt, not cutting edge QML, Commercial, not LGPL.  Some are still migrating
> off Tk, Motif and MFC to Qt with millions of lines of code.   So how to tap
> these Qt users and engage them to participate is a challenge, especially when
> your interests differ.
>
> What they are doing could be considered part of the the larger visualization
> field which also includes Qt as defacto standard in Medical Imaging research
> (which is much more open and accessible).
> Visualization needs traditionally relate to huge datasets, performance (GPU
> rendering) and OpenGL wrapping with Qt on the desktop- but might open future
> opportunities for Qt in mobile visualization.
> Im brainstorming about ways to engage the visualization 'communities' and
> other industries that have broad Qt commonalities but might also be
> competitors. They are treasure troves of knowledge stuck in corporate silos. 
>  If anyone has ideas please share.
> Best Regards,
> -AdamRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
+18177396806
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 21:35:38 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:35:38 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <696666786.763961.1323288476577.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
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On 12/07/2011 12:07 PM, ext Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> Thanks Adam. I spoke a bit broadly, but then, previous extensive
> searches (mostly for Dallas and Austin) came up almost dry. I also mean
> "community", and mostly "mobile" although I left that out and should
> have specified.

Now with the Qt Project everybody is "community".  :)

Anyway, for this case http://texaslinuxfest.org/ would be a place to 
find out. They don't seem to have information about 2012 though. A year 
ago we were thinking of bringing Qt presence there but then #feb11 came 
and other priorities came...

The activities of local groups are the best way to find out who is 
interested around. Of course the problem is to start and reach the 
critical mass and consolidation.

I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help 
exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt 
training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their 
deeper training and consulting services.

Every place is different and imagination is the key.

--
Quim


From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 21:40:55 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:40:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
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Good point Quim.  I presented at Texas Linux Fest 2011 on "open ecosystems" and
both my talk and the event in general were well-attended.  I network frequently
with the organizers so I'll ping them on this.
 
Randy

 


On December 7, 2011 at 3:35 PM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

> On 12/07/2011 12:07 PM, ext Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> > Thanks Adam. I spoke a bit broadly, but then, previous extensive
> > searches (mostly for Dallas and Austin) came up almost dry. I also mean
> > "community", and mostly "mobile" although I left that out and should
> > have specified.
>
> Now with the Qt Project everybody is "community".  :)
>
> Anyway, for this case http://texaslinuxfest.org/ would be a place to
> find out. They don't seem to have information about 2012 though. A year
> ago we were thinking of bringing Qt presence there but then #feb11 came
> and other priorities came...
>
> The activities of local groups are the best way to find out who is
> interested around. Of course the problem is to start and reach the
> critical mass and consolidation.
>
> I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
> exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
> training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
> deeper training and consulting services.
>
> Every place is different and imagination is the key.
>
> --
> QuimRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
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From adam.weinrich at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 22:00:26 2011
From: adam.weinrich at nokia.com (adam.weinrich at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:00:26 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <4EDFCE1A.1020408@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>

On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

>
>I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
>exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
>training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
>deeper training and consulting services.
>
>Every place is different and imagination is the key.


KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
support the local community.
I can setup introductions if desired.

I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
to help with that too ;-)

Cheers,
Adam



From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 22:05:18 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:05:18 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
References: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EDFD50E.3080301@nokia.com>

On 12/07/2011 01:00 PM, Weinrich Adam (Nokia-DXM-Qt/SiliconValley) wrote:
> On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil"<quim.gil at nokia.com>  wrote:
>
>>
>> I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
>> exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
>> training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
>> deeper training and consulting services.
>>
>> Every place is different and imagination is the key.
>
>
> KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
> Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
> Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
> support the local community.
> I can setup introductions if desired.

Not to forget that our very own qt-project.org infra-master Marius 
Storm-Olsen is based in Texas as well!

>
> I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
> http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
> With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
> With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
> to help with that too ;-)

Ok, reaching this point I guess my part of the job is done.  :D

--
Quim


From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 22:05:05 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:05:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
References: <4EDFCE1A.1020408@nokia.com>
	<CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <297180132.768020.1323291905583.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

Thanks again Adam, very helpful.
 
There's a *possibility* I may be rejoining Nokia soon, although in US Customer
Care.  But, if I do, the salary they are suggesting would make it much easier
for me to hop down to Houston on occasion (on my own) for regional stuff.  So
we'll see (interview Friday).
 
Still looking for Dallas businesses strong on Qt...
 
Randy

 


On December 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:

> On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
> >exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
> >training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
> >deeper training and consulting services.
> >
> >Every place is different and imagination is the key.
>
>
> KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
> Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
> Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
> support the local community.
> I can setup introductions if desired.
>
> I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
> http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
> With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
> With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
> to help with that too ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>Randall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
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From rokrau at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  7 22:05:57 2011
From: rokrau at yahoo.com (Roland Krause)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:05:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
References: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1323291957.60529.YahooMailRC@web181613.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Quim, Adam. 
Chiming in here a little late :-) - ICS actually has a presence in Austin and I 
was just talking to them about how to get a local Meetup going and maybe a 
possible Qt QuickStart in early January.  


Let's coordinate these activities. 

Roland




________________________________
From: "adam.weinrich at nokia.com" <adam.weinrich at nokia.com>
To: quim.gil at nokia.com; randall.arnold at texrat.net
Cc: knut.yrvin at nokia.com; marketing at qt-project.org
Sent: Wed, December 7, 2011 1:00:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!

On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

>
>I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
>exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
>training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
>deeper training and consulting services.
>
>Every place is different and imagination is the key.


KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
support the local community.
I can setup introductions if desired.

I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
to help with that too ;-)

Cheers,
Adam

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From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 22:07:48 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:07:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <4EDFD50E.3080301@nokia.com>
References: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
	<4EDFD50E.3080301@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <2009762586.768209.1323292068916.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

Thanks, Quim, I just sent Marius a LinkedIn invitation!
 
Randy

 


On December 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

> On 12/07/2011 01:00 PM, Weinrich Adam (Nokia-DXM-Qt/SiliconValley) wrote:
> > On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil"<quim.gil at nokia.com>  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
> >> exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
> >> training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
> >> deeper training and consulting services.
> >>
> >> Every place is different and imagination is the key.
> >
> >
> > KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
> > Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
> > Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
> > support the local community.
> > I can setup introductions if desired.
>
> Not to forget that our very own qt-project.org infra-master Marius
> Storm-Olsen is based in Texas as well!
>
> >
> > I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
> > http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
> > With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
> > With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
> > to help with that too ;-)
>
> Ok, reaching this point I guess my part of the job is done.  :D
>
> --
> QuimRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
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From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 22:09:49 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:09:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <1323291957.60529.YahooMailRC@web181613.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
	<1323291957.60529.YahooMailRC@web181613.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <611685363.768321.1323292189257.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

Roland, I'm working on the same for Dallas (hoping to leverage former local
MeeGo network) and would like to coordinate with you as well.  I usually get
down to Austin once or twice a year, so perhaps we can meet up.
 
Randall (Randy) Arnold
Nokia Developer Champion
+18177396806

 


On December 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM Roland Krause <rokrau at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Quim, Adam.
> Chiming in here a little late :-) - ICS actually has a presence in Austin and
> I
> was just talking to them about how to get a local Meetup going and maybe a
> possible Qt QuickStart in early January. 
>
>
> Let's coordinate these activities.
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "adam.weinrich at nokia.com" <adam.weinrich at nokia.com>
> To: quim.gil at nokia.com; randall.arnold at texrat.net
> Cc: knut.yrvin at nokia.com; marketing at qt-project.org
> Sent: Wed, December 7, 2011 1:00:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
>
> On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
> >exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
> >training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
> >deeper training and consulting services.
> >
> >Every place is different and imagination is the key.
>
>
> KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
> Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
> Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
> support the local community.
> I can setup introductions if desired.
>
> I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
> http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
> With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
> With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
> to help with that too ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> _______________________________________________
> Marketing mailing list
> Marketing at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketingRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
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From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Wed Dec  7 22:41:51 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:41:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
In-Reply-To: <1323291957.60529.YahooMailRC@web181613.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CB053C84.3300C%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>
	<1323291957.60529.YahooMailRC@web181613.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2090108799.770117.1323294111907.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

Note that I have just repurposed the former LinkedIn DFW and AUS MeeGo groups
for Qt now:
 
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Due-MeeGo-project-dissolution-replaced-3707050.S.84045376?view=&gid=3707050&type=member&item=84045376
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Due-MeeGo-project-dissolution-replaced-3356902.S.84045695?view=&gid=3356902&type=member&item=84045695
 
I can reboot and maintain the Dallas group, but it would be nice to have someone
actually living in Austin do the same for AUS.  And of course a Houston group
would be nice... as well as a regional Texas umbrella group if deemed useful.  I
am okay with creating those unless someone beats me to it.

Randy
 


On December 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM Roland Krause <rokrau at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Quim, Adam.
> Chiming in here a little late :-) - ICS actually has a presence in Austin and
> I
> was just talking to them about how to get a local Meetup going and maybe a
> possible Qt QuickStart in early January. 
>
>
> Let's coordinate these activities.
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "adam.weinrich at nokia.com" <adam.weinrich at nokia.com>
> To: quim.gil at nokia.com; randall.arnold at texrat.net
> Cc: knut.yrvin at nokia.com; marketing at qt-project.org
> Sent: Wed, December 7, 2011 1:00:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Qt local groups - Texas!
>
> On 12/7/11 3:35 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I wonder if a US based Qt partner based in the US would like to help
> >exploring this? For instance, ICS (anybody here?) organized free Qt
> >training sessions in different locations as a way to introduce their
> >deeper training and consulting services.
> >
> >Every place is different and imagination is the key.
>
>
> KDAB is well placed with a Houston office
> Also FrogLogic has an Austin based expert on Qt testing.
> Both of those are old school Qt partners that I bet would be glad to
> support the local community.
> I can setup introductions if desired.
>
> I hear that lots of the Oil&Gas Qt users meet Wednesdays at
> http://houston.gingermanpub.com/
> With lots of cross-polination going on... mostly after they get drunk.
> With a little imagination the Qt-Project can setup a happy hour.  Im glad
> to help with that too ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> _______________________________________________
> Marketing mailing list
> Marketing at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketingRandall (Randy) Arnold
Developer and Enthusiast Advocate
http://texrat.net
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From lars.knoll at nokia.com  Wed Dec  7 23:28:28 2011
From: lars.knoll at nokia.com (lars.knoll at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 22:28:28 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] FOSDEM & Qt Project
In-Reply-To: <4EDD5A2C.7080206@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CB05A6C6.1DB72%lars.knoll@nokia.com>

I might be able to go and give a talk, but a lightning talk doesn't really
make too much sense.

Cheers,
Lars

On 12/6/11 12:56 AM, "ext Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

>Hi, this is the first call to this mailing list: we have a week to
>decide the fundamentals of what we do at FOSDEM.
>
>Brussels, Feb 4-5
>http://forsdem.org
>
>We seem to have missed the chance to submit a session to the main track.
>Pity, because I bet a Qt Project introduction spiced up with the last
>developments of Qt 5 + demo would have been gladly received by that
>audience.
>
>Still, there are good chances to be active in FOSDEM:
>
>Call for stands
>http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands
>Is there interest and critical mass to man properly a booth?
>
>Call for Lightning Talks
>http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks
>Who can submit a proposal to pitch the Qt Project and/or Qt 5?
>
>... and the DevRooms.
>DevRooms are still receiving proposals, and as far as I know each one is
>organized quite autonomously.
>
>The list of DevRooms can be found at
>http://fosdem.org/2012/devrooms_for_2012
>
>We have good contacts at "Cross Desktop" and "Open Mobile Linux". Other
>DevRooms might be interested in Qt related content since we really don't
>fit in only one place e.f. "Embedded" or "Open Source Game Development".
>
>Also, if there is critical mass we could aim to organize a Qt
>Contributors Day e.g. on Feb 3rd (Friday, with time to reach the Fosdem
>Beer Party)  ;)
>
>Thoughts? Volunteers?
>
>--
>Quim
>_______________________________________________
>Marketing mailing list
>Marketing at qt-project.org
>http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing



From dio.rahman at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 00:29:34 2011
From: dio.rahman at gmail.com (Dhi Aurrahman)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 06:29:34 +0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt local groups
Message-ID: <CA+2-_sRbjj61zZnoa+7R6w3xgpvJHtC3ogNYN=t6trgg2NQpBg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi I'm Dio, I'm a Qt developer living in Indonesia.

Hi I'm Dio, I'm a Qt developer living in Bandung, Indonesia.

Some backgrounds,

Here in this country, the spread of Qt is being enforced by (developer)
managers at Nokia Indonesia. We had several times of Qt Developer Days; but
it turns out just like a Nokia Marketing events rather than Qt itself. The
best part of that program maybe the effort to have formal curriculum which
involves Qt in Universities. The effort is now running as secondary stream
since the burst of Silverlight and WP7 ; Microsoft has good connection with
developers in here, in fact the Developer Manager at Nokia Indonesia was a
Community Manager for Microsoft Users/Developers Group.

About meetups, it would be the best if we could actually measure the
current level of Qt adoption. I don't think I have access to that data in
here in Indonesia. It will be hard to get started, since Qt very close to
C++ which is scary for most of developers. (yes there is QML, we're working
on it!)

Some efforts,

I have tried to make small mentoring session at some high-schools and
universities. We have small groups, working on simple apps development and
try to submit it to Nokia Store to get the real excitement. The key is, the
excitement and real benefits. Qt 5 and Raspberry Pi could be
something attractive for academic hackers ; but we need real bridge to let
them see the real "thing" that they can actually build with these awesome
tools. Given more than 200 millions people living in this country we have a
lot of potential though.

Enough for the intro, I have read the
http://wiki.meego.com/Local_MeeGo_Networks hopefully we could have on in
Indonesia, a simple meetup with better (developer) ambience rather than
Nokia marketing nuance. Looking forward to more coherence discussion :-)

Best,
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Thu Dec  8 01:18:06 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:18:06 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
In-Reply-To: <4EDFBD75.7030800@nokia.com>
References: <CAJb_6051xhGe_X0yTwasxZv9Y7TJCuodWCQ50Juzu87GWhWsBg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EDFBD75.7030800@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE0023E.2070208@nokia.com>

About http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing

On 12/07/2011 10:48 AM, ext Tomasz Siekierda wrote:
 > As for 7. (news), I guess the official blogs on Nokia's site are OK
 > for now, but probably a separate system should be established on
 > qt-project.org, so that approvers and maintainers from outside of
 > Nokia can blog about some important developments. Also, I would
 > suggest the Labs blogs move there. It would be very good if the blogs
 > would reside in one place only - having to switch between Nokia and
 > qt-project would be confusing.

The future of those Qt blogs hosted under *.nokia.com is being discussed 
at Nokia right now and a decision is expected "soon" (don't quote me on 
this, though)

Qt Labs blogs are granted to be moved, I guess it's more or less a 
matter of ToDo priorities. The Qt Blog itself is still under discussion 
because it is part of qt.nokia.com and the approach there has been a lot 
more related to Nokia's business than the purely technical labs blogs. 
It's no rocket science but you need to be more careful with the cutter.

In any case we need to think of the right way to channel of that 
information. This is not only about who can write posts but about who 
decides what is aggregated or promoted, and how. Nowadays we have blogs 
hosted anywhere, company announcements, social media and what not. As 
you say it can't be anymore a matter of Nokia employees alone deciding.

 > Another idea, maybe a bit more abstract, is to ask maintainers/ active
 > commiters and approvers to write occasionally on what is going on in
 > their part of the project. Qt is huge, and keeping up-to-date even in
 > a single module is difficult.

This idea is not abstract at all! Followers of a certain component 
should be able to follow the relevant activity without having to swim in 
code reviews and bug reports. Part of this problem will be solved with 
the arrival of more specialized mailing lists. Still, for good project 
inter-communication a higher level of news / announcements is welcome.

Could be solved with specialized blogs, or good use of tags in 
aggregated blogs.

... and all this would lead to the discussion about the 
http://qt-project.org homepage and how to keep it up to date with the 
coolest info - automatically. And then someone will raise the point of 
being able to customize your own homepage based on your preferences.

-- 
Quim



From thiago.macieira at intel.com  Thu Dec  8 18:05:50 2011
From: thiago.macieira at intel.com (Thiago Macieira)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:05:50 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
In-Reply-To: <4EE0023E.2070208@nokia.com>
References: <CAJb_6051xhGe_X0yTwasxZv9Y7TJCuodWCQ50Juzu87GWhWsBg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EDFBD75.7030800@nokia.com> <4EE0023E.2070208@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <2950258.cegeaV76af@tjmaciei-mobl2>

On Wednesday, 7 de December de 2011 16.18.06, Quim Gil wrote:
> About http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing
> 
> On 12/07/2011 10:48 AM, ext Tomasz Siekierda wrote:
>  > As for 7. (news), I guess the official blogs on Nokia's site are OK
>  > for now, but probably a separate system should be established on
>  > qt-project.org, so that approvers and maintainers from outside of
>  > Nokia can blog about some important developments. Also, I would
>  > suggest the Labs blogs move there. It would be very good if the blogs
>  > would reside in one place only - having to switch between Nokia and
>  > qt-project would be confusing.
> 
> The future of those Qt blogs hosted under *.nokia.com is being discussed
> at Nokia right now and a decision is expected "soon" (don't quote me on
> this, though)
> 
> Qt Labs blogs are granted to be moved, I guess it's more or less a
> matter of ToDo priorities. The Qt Blog itself is still under discussion
> because it is part of qt.nokia.com and the approach there has been a lot
> more related to Nokia's business than the purely technical labs blogs.
> It's no rocket science but you need to be more careful with the cutter.

The idea when I was still at Nokia was that the Labs blogs would remain as it 
is -- it's a blog from Nokia developers working on Qt, the trolls. If Nokia 
wishes to maintain its own official blog about Qt, they're welcome to do so.

The Qt project needs a blog of its own for news updates, such as creation of 
important mailing lists, releases coming up, etc. I think it's a matter for 
the Marketing team (this mailing list) to decide who and when can do that.

It also needs a blog aggregator, so other people can make sure the news are 
published. I don't think the Qt project needs to provide a blog publishing 
system for everyone, as you can get your own at wordpress.com or blogspot.com, 
then simply aggregate into Qt Project blogs.

>  > Another idea, maybe a bit more abstract, is to ask maintainers/ active
>  > commiters and approvers to write occasionally on what is going on in
>  > their part of the project. Qt is huge, and keeping up-to-date even in
>  > a single module is difficult.
> 
> This idea is not abstract at all! Followers of a certain component
> should be able to follow the relevant activity without having to swim in
> code reviews and bug reports. Part of this problem will be solved with
> the arrival of more specialized mailing lists. Still, for good project
> inter-communication a higher level of news / announcements is welcome.

I've been meaning to write a "this month in QtCore" blog, as I am the 
maintainer for that area. I just haven't got around to doing so.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
   Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Thu Dec  8 18:39:46 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:39:46 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] OSCON - call for Qt Project coordination
Message-ID: <4EE0F662.6000209@nokia.com>

Hi, OSCON has just announced their call for papers:

http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/cfp/197?imm_mid=079f65&cmp=em-conf-os12-em1-unsol-cfp

Portland (OR) July 16-20

This is a major event in the US and one of the stops in the global OSS 
tour. Their content committee fights for hi quality sessions, their 
sponsorship fees are significant, even the registration fee is remarkable.

This is a call for coordination, any Qt Project stakeholders are invited 
to join.

- Keynote
Lars, are you available? It takes effort and more to get a keynote 
through. The sooner we start the better.

- Sessions
The content committee is really picky with content (technical level, 
novelty, originality, format...), the speaker and the submission itself. 
Brainstorming the best topics we should push according to the terms of 
their CfP and agreeing who pushes what will probably lead to better 
results than just lettins anybody submit something, with all the risk of 
half backed intents and overlaps.

- Exhibition
Do we want to pool efforts to bring an excellent Qt demo area and Qt 
Project contact point? Is any organization planning on having own 
presence? Pros / cons of going under the Qt Project umbrella instead?

- Sponsorship
Similar to the topic of stand: are we interested in a Qt logo and Qt 
Projects appearing as sponsor? Is anybody considering pushing their own 
logo? Pros/cons?

More? Please discuss and help documenting 
http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events/OSCON

--
Quim


From lars.knoll at nokia.com  Thu Dec  8 22:45:52 2011
From: lars.knoll at nokia.com (lars.knoll at nokia.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 21:45:52 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] OSCON - call for Qt Project coordination
In-Reply-To: <4EE0F662.6000209@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CB06EE4B.1DCC0%lars.knoll@nokia.com>

On 12/8/11 6:39 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

>Hi, OSCON has just announced their call for papers:
>
>http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/cfp/197?imm_mid=079f65&cmp=em-conf-o
>s12-em1-unsol-cfp
>
>Portland (OR) July 16-20
>
>This is a major event in the US and one of the stops in the global OSS
>tour. Their content committee fights for hi quality sessions, their
>sponsorship fees are significant, even the registration fee is remarkable.
>
>This is a call for coordination, any Qt Project stakeholders are invited
>to join.
>
>- Keynote
>Lars, are you available? It takes effort and more to get a keynote
>through. The sooner we start the better.

Sorry, that won't work. I've booked my summer vacations last week, and the
last day is July 18th. Somebody else will need to do it.

Cheers,
Lars

>
>- Sessions
>The content committee is really picky with content (technical level,
>novelty, originality, format...), the speaker and the submission itself.
>Brainstorming the best topics we should push according to the terms of
>their CfP and agreeing who pushes what will probably lead to better
>results than just lettins anybody submit something, with all the risk of
>half backed intents and overlaps.
>
>- Exhibition
>Do we want to pool efforts to bring an excellent Qt demo area and Qt
>Project contact point? Is any organization planning on having own
>presence? Pros / cons of going under the Qt Project umbrella instead?
>
>- Sponsorship
>Similar to the topic of stand: are we interested in a Qt logo and Qt
>Projects appearing as sponsor? Is anybody considering pushing their own
>logo? Pros/cons?
>
>More? Please discuss and help documenting
>http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events/OSCON
>
>--
>Quim



From randall.arnold at texrat.net  Thu Dec  8 22:52:33 2011
From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:52:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Marketing] OSCON - call for Qt Project coordination
In-Reply-To: <CB06EE4B.1DCC0%lars.knoll@nokia.com>
References: <4EE0F662.6000209@nokia.com> <CB06EE4B.1DCC0%lars.knoll@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1776438139.819857.1323381153648.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com

What about Knut?  He's famous, a great presenter, and his water analogy
presentation (from Akademy 2010) should be perfect for environment-conscious
Portland.  ;)
 
Randy
(sorry for top-posting, it's the email client)

 


On December 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM lars.knoll at nokia.com wrote:

> On 12/8/11 6:39 PM, "Quim Gil" <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi, OSCON has just announced their call for papers:
> >
> >http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/cfp/197?imm_mid=079f65&cmp=em-conf-o
> >s12-em1-unsol-cfp
> >
> >Portland (OR) July 16-20
> >
> >This is a major event in the US and one of the stops in the global OSS
> >tour. Their content committee fights for hi quality sessions, their
> >sponsorship fees are significant, even the registration fee is remarkable.
> >
> >This is a call for coordination, any Qt Project stakeholders are invited
> >to join.
> >
> >- Keynote
> >Lars, are you available? It takes effort and more to get a keynote
> >through. The sooner we start the better.
>
> Sorry, that won't work. I've booked my summer vacations last week, and the
> last day is July 18th. Somebody else will need to do it.
>
> Cheers,
> Lars
>
> >
> >- Sessions
> >The content committee is really picky with content (technical level,
> >novelty, originality, format...), the speaker and the submission itself.
> >Brainstorming the best topics we should push according to the terms of
> >their CfP and agreeing who pushes what will probably lead to better
> >results than just lettins anybody submit something, with all the risk of
> >half backed intents and overlaps.
> >
> >- Exhibition
> >Do we want to pool efforts to bring an excellent Qt demo area and Qt
> >Project contact point? Is any organization planning on having own
> >presence? Pros / cons of going under the Qt Project umbrella instead?
> >
> >- Sponsorship
> >Similar to the topic of stand: are we interested in a Qt logo and Qt
> >Projects appearing as sponsor? Is anybody considering pushing their own
> >logo? Pros/cons?
> >
> >More? Please discuss and help documenting
> >http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events/OSCON
> >
> >--
> >Quim
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Marketing at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketingRandall (Randy) Arnold
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From alexandra.leisse at nokia.com  Fri Dec  9 12:46:16 2011
From: alexandra.leisse at nokia.com (alexandra.leisse at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:46:16 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
In-Reply-To: <2950258.cegeaV76af@tjmaciei-mobl2>
Message-ID: <CB07B368.1D243%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>

On 8.12.2011 6:05 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" <thiago.macieira at intel.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, 7 de December de 2011 16.18.06, Quim Gil wrote:
>> About http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing
>> 
>> On 12/07/2011 10:48 AM, ext Tomasz Siekierda wrote:
>>  > As for 7. (news), I guess the official blogs on Nokia's site are OK
>>  > for now, but probably a separate system should be established on
>>  > qt-project.org, so that approvers and maintainers from outside of
>>  > Nokia can blog about some important developments. Also, I would
>>  > suggest the Labs blogs move there. It would be very good if the blogs
>>  > would reside in one place only - having to switch between Nokia and
>>  > qt-project would be confusing.
>> 
>> The future of those Qt blogs hosted under *.nokia.com is being discussed
>> at Nokia right now and a decision is expected "soon" (don't quote me on
>> this, though)
>> 
>> Qt Labs blogs are granted to be moved, I guess it's more or less a
>> matter of ToDo priorities. The Qt Blog itself is still under discussion
>> because it is part of qt.nokia.com and the approach there has been a lot
>> more related to Nokia's business than the purely technical labs blogs.
>> It's no rocket science but you need to be more careful with the cutter.
>
>The idea when I was still at Nokia was that the Labs blogs would remain
>as it 
>is -- it's a blog from Nokia developers working on Qt, the trolls. If
>Nokia 
>wishes to maintain its own official blog about Qt, they're welcome to do
>so.
>
>The Qt project needs a blog of its own for news updates, such as creation
>of 
>important mailing lists, releases coming up, etc. I think it's a matter
>for 
>the Marketing team (this mailing list) to decide who and when can do that.
>
>It also needs a blog aggregator, so other people can make sure the news
>are 
>published. I don't think the Qt project needs to provide a blog
>publishing 
>system for everyone, as you can get your own at wordpress.com or
>blogspot.com, 
>then simply aggregate into Qt Project blogs.

Precisely. :)

>>  > Another idea, maybe a bit more abstract, is to ask maintainers/
>>active
>>  > commiters and approvers to write occasionally on what is going on in
>>  > their part of the project. Qt is huge, and keeping up-to-date even in
>>  > a single module is difficult.
>> 
>> This idea is not abstract at all! Followers of a certain component
>> should be able to follow the relevant activity without having to swim in
>> code reviews and bug reports. Part of this problem will be solved with
>> the arrival of more specialized mailing lists. Still, for good project
>> inter-communication a higher level of news / announcements is welcome.
>
>I've been meaning to write a "this month in QtCore" blog, as I am the
>maintainer for that area. I just haven't got around to doing so.
>
>-- 
>Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
>   Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
>      PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint:
>      E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C  966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358
>_______________________________________________
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>http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>


--
Alexandra Leisse

mobile: +47 99 27 10 36
skype: alexandraleisse
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From marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com  Fri Dec  9 13:04:12 2011
From: marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com (marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:04:12 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
In-Reply-To: <CB07B368.1D243%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
References: <CB07B368.1D243%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE1F93B.8040006@nokia.com>

On 09/12/2011 05:46, ext alexandra.leisse at nokia.com wrote:
> On 8.12.2011 6:05 PM, "ext Thiago
> Macieira"<thiago.macieira at intel.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 7 de December de 2011 16.18.06, Quim Gil wrote:
>>> Qt Labs blogs are granted to be moved, I guess it's more or less
>>> a matter of ToDo priorities. The Qt Blog itself is still under
>>> discussion because it is part of qt.nokia.com and the approach
>>> there has been a lot more related to Nokia's business than the
>>> purely technical labs blogs. It's no rocket science but you need
>>> to be more careful with the cutter.
>>
>> The idea when I was still at Nokia was that the Labs blogs would
>> remain as it is -- it's a blog from Nokia developers working on Qt,
>> the trolls. If Nokia wishes to maintain its own official blog about
>> Qt, they're welcome to do so.
>>
>> The Qt project needs a blog of its own for news updates, such as
>> creation of important mailing lists, releases coming up, etc. I
>> think it's a matter for the Marketing team (this mailing list) to
>> decide who and when can do that.
>>
>> It also needs a blog aggregator, so other people can make sure the
>> news are published. I don't think the Qt project needs to provide a
>> blog publishing system for everyone, as you can get your own at
>> wordpress.com or blogspot.com, then simply aggregate into Qt
>> Project blogs.
>
> Precisely. :)

planet.qt-project.org, and Qt Project-specific things could just post 
there directly; or should it have its own blog.qt-project.org and have 
that aggregated to planet.qt-project.org as well?

-- 
.marius

From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Dec  9 17:14:26 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:14:26 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
In-Reply-To: <CB07B368.1D243%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
References: <CB07B368.1D243%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE233E2.8010501@nokia.com>

On 12/09/2011 03:46 AM, ext alexandra.leisse at nokia.com wrote:
> On 8.12.2011 6:05 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira"<thiago.macieira at intel.com>
>> It also needs a blog aggregator, so other people can make sure the news
>> are
>> published. I don't think the Qt project needs to provide a blog
>> publishing
>> system for everyone, as you can get your own at wordpress.com or
>> blogspot.com,
>> then simply aggregate into Qt Project blogs.
>
> Precisely. :)

Should we propose http://planetqt.org/ to merge and start from there or 
are we talking about something new. If the latter, how.

Still a 'media team' or a 'media process' would be needed to highlight 
relevant news to the homepage.

Maybe because I'm / I was a journalist I distrust editors in chief 
(especially when I'm one of them). I was really happy about the results 
of crowdsourcing editorial work at http://maemo.org/news/ when the 
activity was intense there. Background: http://wiki.maemo.org/Social_news

And the important question: who wants to drive this ride?

--
Quim


From abenito at kde.org  Sat Dec 10 17:05:49 2011
From: abenito at kde.org (Agustin Benito Bethencourt)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:05:49 +0100
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
Message-ID: <4285289.3blxus2PVL@galdos>

Hi,

in KDE, the mix of:
* News web called Dot, with a group of editors and 
collecting/editing/publishing procedures: http://dot.kde.org
* Planet KDE: http://planetkde.org/ with some nice features to visualize 
twitter accounts, for example plus planets in different languages 
(http://planetkde.org/es/ for example)

work very well so far for promo purposes.

Saludos 
-- 
Agustin Benito Bethencourt
Profile: http://es.linkedin.com/in/toscalix


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Mon Dec 12 18:01:08 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:01:08 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Indonesia (was Re:  Qt local groups)
In-Reply-To: <CA+2-_sRbjj61zZnoa+7R6w3xgpvJHtC3ogNYN=t6trgg2NQpBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+2-_sRbjj61zZnoa+7R6w3xgpvJHtC3ogNYN=t6trgg2NQpBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EE63354.7010104@nokia.com>

On 12/07/2011 03:29 PM, ext Dhi Aurrahman wrote:
> Hi I'm Dio, I'm a Qt developer living in Bandung, Indonesia.

Hi!

> Some backgrounds,
>
> Here in this country, the spread of Qt is being enforced by (developer)
> managers at Nokia Indonesia. We had several times of Qt Developer Days;
> but it turns out just like a Nokia Marketing events rather than Qt
> itself. The best part of that program maybe the effort to have formal
> curriculum which involves Qt in Universities. The effort is now running
> as secondary stream since the burst of Silverlight and WP7 ; Microsoft
> has good connection with developers in here, in fact the Developer
> Manager at Nokia Indonesia was a Community Manager for Microsoft
> Users/Developers Group.

Right, so it is good that a Qt vendor organized activities around Qt 
(for instance the picture at 
http://qt-mobility.blogspot.com/2011/02/qt-developer-workshop-by-nokia-bandung.html 
is not looking bad) but the Qt Project needs to have the capacity to 
push its own agenda anywhere, in collaboration with vendors and other 
stakeholders.

Sadly I don't know Indonesia but I will ask around inside Nokia to find 
the right contacts. Are there other companies with presence in 
Indonesia? What about KDE developers or other Linux communities 
interested in Qt?

I see you are already at http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Bandung/ and 
there is http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Depok-ID/274121/ too but the 
numbers are indeed low.


> About meetups, it would be the best if we could actually measure the
> current level of Qt adoption. I don't think I have access to that data
> in here in Indonesia. It will be hard to get started, since Qt very
> close to C++ which is scary for most of developers. (yes there is QML,
> we're working on it!)

Indeed Qt Quick and the usefulness of QtWebkit with all the access to 
the native APIs are key technologies to promote. But yes, all this needs 
real products to get people interested. If you are talking about mobile 
in Indonesia then N9 + Symbian + Android port might be a good enough 
attraction to get us started. Then there is the desktop and other 
form-factors, but I don't know how relevant is that in Indonesia.


> Some efforts,
>
> I have tried to make small mentoring session at some high-schools and
> universities. We have small groups, working on simple apps development
> and try to submit it to Nokia Store to get the real excitement. The key
> is, the excitement and real benefits. Qt 5 and Raspberry Pi could be
> something attractive for academic hackers ; but we need real bridge to
> let them see the real "thing" that they can actually build with these
> awesome tools. Given more than 200 millions people living in this
> country we have a lot of potential though.

Very true. Any big movement starts with a small step. That is a core 
point in the philosophy of the network of local groups.

> Enough for the intro, I have read the
> http://wiki.meego.com/Local_MeeGo_Networks hopefully we could have on in
> Indonesia, a simple meetup with better (developer) ambience rather than
> Nokia marketing nuance. Looking forward to more coherence discussion :-)

What can we do to help you organize a first genuine Qt meetup in 
Bandung? What should be it about ? Training session? Showcase? Social 
meetup?

How do you need to organize it? Does meetup.com work for you, would you 
prefer another tool... ?

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Mon Dec 12 22:35:09 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:35:09 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] A catalog of Qt software
Message-ID: <4EE6738D.6090001@nokia.com>

Hi, someone asked in the QtonPi mailing list about the possibility to 
have an online catalog to find all the software produced by the hundreds 
of Qt 5 projects. This is something I had in mind as well...

http://wiki.qt-project.org/Software_Catalog

Apps and software available is a key aspect for a technology selection 
nowadays, yet it's not easy to find out what is being developed with Qt.


This would be a catalog of entries maintained by their own developers 
that could host packages organized by OS, form factor and product.

http://apps.formeego.com could be a starting point since it has all the 
basic pieces in place already:

* An online build system that can host different Linux targets and where 
developers can upload sources and build packages.
* Unstable and stable repositories.
* A quality assurance process including automatic and community based 
filters.
* A web frontend allowing the organization of entries by operating system.
* User ratings and comments are enabled too.
* Flexible frontend, allowing a Qt homepage even if the backend is 
capable of hosting non-Qt projects as well.

Interest? Ideas?

Looking at http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing I thought that this 
would be something really nice to have during 2012, so I decided to add 
it to the list of marketing priorities. There is no more process around 
this list as of yet: if you disagree or have a better idea please comment.

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec 13 00:05:36 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:05:36 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Who does what in the Qt Project
In-Reply-To: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB38D80@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB38D80@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE688C0.3030906@nokia.com>

On 12/01/2011 02:53 PM, ext quim.gil at nokia.com wrote:
> Since we are a meritocratic organization it is important to know who
> does what. Currently it is difficult (if not impossible?) to know the
> whole picture.

http://wiki.qt-project.org/Who_does_what is good enough now. If nobody 
complains in the following days I will consider it a task complete at 
http://wiki.qt-project.org/Marketing

If there is something you are missing please file a bug at 
http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/ under

Qt Websites > Qt Project

(and add me on copy, although this Bugzilla dude is not sure about how 
this is done in JIRA)

Thank you to everybody who helped!

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec 13 00:34:35 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:34:35 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] SCALE conference in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <4EC5653D.3030701@nokia.com>
References: <CAE16027.1BDA9%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>	<4EBC1D18.6060309@nokia.com>
	<4EC2EF88.2030205@nokia.com>	<4EC2F1AA.6030005@samoff.com>
	<4EC2F390.2040208@nokia.com> <4EC5653D.3030701@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE68F8B.3080503@nokia.com>

(This thread started in the [Interest] list before this one was created)

About https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/

On 11/17/2011 11:49 AM, ext Quim Gil wrote:
> The Qt Project booth at SCALE is now official:
> http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x/qt-project
>
> KDE has also a booth. What about requesting the organizers to put us
> side by side, or nearby?

We synced with the KDE guys and we asked the organizers to place the 
booths one next to the other. Nice!

The organization sent me a code for registering booth volunteers free of 
charge. Some people expressed their interest to help. Now it's the time 
of the truth: send me a reply off the list confirming your availability 
and I will send you the code.

Also, my session proposal was approved! Let's show the beauty of Qt 5 
and the Qt Project! I'm for the 'see to believe' approach, bringing the 
demos on stage. Demomasters Donald & Johannes, hopefully you will be 
willing to help?

... btw I was also thinking whether we should propose something in the 
context of UbuCon, since Qt is becoming more relevant to the Ubuntu 
project and some of us will be there.

https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x/events/ubucon

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec 13 00:45:02 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:45:02 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] SCALE conference in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <4EE68F8B.3080503@nokia.com>
References: <CAE16027.1BDA9%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>	<4EBC1D18.6060309@nokia.com>
	<4EC2EF88.2030205@nokia.com>	<4EC2F1AA.6030005@samoff.com>
	<4EC2F390.2040208@nokia.com> <4EC5653D.3030701@nokia.com>
	<4EE68F8B.3080503@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE691FE.8040200@nokia.com>

On 12/12/2011 03:34 PM, ext Quim Gil wrote:
> ... btw I was also thinking whether we should propose something in the
> context of UbuCon, since Qt is becoming more relevant to the Ubuntu
> project and some of us will be there.
>
> https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x/events/ubucon

Oh, not really: http://ubucon.org/scale/scale10x/

"We're looking for presentations on topics that would be of interest to 
casual and beginning users."

--
Quim


From dio.rahman at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 02:21:14 2011
From: dio.rahman at gmail.com (Dhi Aurrahman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:21:14 +0700
Subject: [Marketing] Indonesia (was Re: Qt local groups)
In-Reply-To: <4EE63354.7010104@nokia.com>
References: <CA+2-_sRbjj61zZnoa+7R6w3xgpvJHtC3ogNYN=t6trgg2NQpBg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EE63354.7010104@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CA+2-_sQuBb_vGkHSsW329wGOqKLPgXusbPk5FXw5JeFarGQeZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

>
> Right, so it is good that a Qt vendor organized activities around Qt
> (for instance the picture at
>
> http://qt-mobility.blogspot.com/2011/02/qt-developer-workshop-by-nokia-bandung.html
> is not looking bad) but the Qt Project needs to have the capacity to
> push its own agenda anywhere, in collaboration with vendors and other
> stakeholders.
>

That's what I have crossed in mind. That post was a developer workshop held
by Nokia, the trainers came from Nokia Singapore everything is solely
arranged by Nokia, which is great too.


>
> Sadly I don't know Indonesia but I will ask around inside Nokia to find
> the right contacts.


Actually @mopius (Andreas Jakl?) was here for NFC training session. But,
again the initiative was driven by Nokia Indonesia. Furthermore, you could
ping @narenda, is the man behind Nokia Indonesia who pushes developers here
to set their minds to develop for Nokia Platform (including Qt). He is one
of our best friends. Should appreciate him for 'Qt Buzz' in recent years.


> Are there other companies with presence in
> Indonesia? What about KDE developers or other Linux communities
> interested in Qt?
>

Well, I don't know about KDE, but Linux community should have enough
attention here e.g. http://www.blankonlinux.or.id/ ; in fact the (my)
proposed Pi project was delivered for supporting this:
http://dev.blankonlinux.or.id/wiki/Srimubil/BlanKombebe (it's in Bahasa, I
believe you know @aksimdamt http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdamt who pushes the
adoption of Linux to be viral in Indonesia) ; Blankon has Qt in it, but it
doesn't focus on Qt.


>
> I see you are already at http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Bandung/ and
> there is http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Depok-ID/274121/ too but the
> numbers are indeed low.
>

Yes, it should be better in the near future :-)


>
> Indeed Qt Quick and the usefulness of QtWebkit with all the access to
> the native APIs are key technologies to promote. But yes, all this needs
> real products to get people interested. If you are talking about mobile
> in Indonesia then N9 + Symbian + Android port might be a good enough
> attraction to get us started. Then there is the desktop and other
> form-factors, but I don't know how relevant is that in Indonesia.
>

Nice! Symbian and the beauty N9 could fit the deal and Android will somehow
fill the curiosity. Well, indeed we have to let developers see the
opportunity is not only from smartphones, there are many ways to put Qt in
the business core and getting benefit of adopting it.


>
>
> > Some efforts,
> >
> > I have tried to make small mentoring session at some high-schools and
> > universities. We have small groups, working on simple apps development
> > and try to submit it to Nokia Store to get the real excitement. The key
> > is, the excitement and real benefits. Qt 5 and Raspberry Pi could be
> > something attractive for academic hackers ; but we need real bridge to
> > let them see the real "thing" that they can actually build with these
> > awesome tools. Given more than 200 millions people living in this
> > country we have a lot of potential though.
>
> Very true. Any big movement starts with a small step. That is a core
> point in the philosophy of the network of local groups.
>
> > Enough for the intro, I have read the
> > http://wiki.meego.com/Local_MeeGo_Networks hopefully we could have on in
> > Indonesia, a simple meetup with better (developer) ambience rather than
> > Nokia marketing nuance. Looking forward to more coherence discussion :-)
>
> What can we do to help you organize a first genuine Qt meetup in
> Bandung? What should be it about ? Training session? Showcase? Social
> meetup?
>
> How do you need to organize it? Does meetup.com work for you, would you
> prefer another tool... ?
>

I will try to have further discussion with Nokia Indonesia here, there is a
Nokia's dedicated mailing list for Nokia Developer http://nice.or.id/ ; I
will try to cluster out developers who do really love and want to work with
Qt and try to initiate the first 'genuine' community-based meetup. I'll
post the feedback in here. In my opinion, social meetup would be the best
to deface from what we have before.

Meetup.com is enough if it is used in the 'right' way. In here Blaast has a
good attention and quite successful in driving community and they 'put'
Ambassadors here and they use meetup.com e.g.
http://www.meetup.com/BlaastMeet/events/44176362/ ; this depicts developers
love to have enough attention from platform principals, like Nokia does in
here.

Thanks

Best,

Dio
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec 13 20:10:20 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:10:20 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Fwd: [Elc-announce] Embedded Linux Conference Call for
	Presentations
In-Reply-To: <4EE69CD8.3060900@am.sony.com>
References: <4EE69CD8.3060900@am.sony.com>
Message-ID: <4EE7A31C.1060406@nokia.com>

fyi

https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference
Feb 15-17, Redwood Shores CA USA

There is an overlap of areas between the scope of ELC and Qt. 
Submissions are encouraged.

I wonder whether we should aim togo for more in this event, like a booth 
& sponsorship.

--
Quim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elc-announce] Embedded Linux Conference Call for Presentations
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:31:20 -0800
From: ext Tim Bird <tim.bird at am.sony.com>
To: <elc-announce at lists.celinuxforum.org>

Hello everyone,

I'm writing to remind you all that the ELC 2012 Call for Presentations
is currently open.  The conference is in February (15-17) this year,
which is a  bit earlier than our traditional dates.

We're very excited for this opportunity once again to get together
as an industry and community, to talk about embedded Linux.
If you have been working on some aspect of Embedded Linux, such as
security, audio, video, graphics, system size, bootup time,
power management, distribution, build systems or tools, please
consider submitting a proposal for the event.

The deadline for proposal submission is January 6, which is coming up
in just a few weeks.  It's right after the Christmas and New Year's
holidays, so make sure you don't forget.

See
https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp
for details.

Thanks,
  -- Tim

=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment
=============================

_______________________________________________
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Dec 13 23:39:31 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:39:31 -0800
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Everywhere Calendar
Message-ID: <4EE7D423.2070707@nokia.com>

As promised weeks ago at the [Interest] mailing list, we have now a 
Google Calendar for Qt events. The link is long but you can find it here 
in HTML, XML & iCal:

http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events

Please use it and help improving it. If you are attending an event with 
a Qt session then we all want to know about it!

Currently I'm the sole maintainer of this Google Calendar, I'm a noobie 
on this and actually I'm not a heavy user of calendars myself. Yes, this 
is my way to say that more maintainers are welcome.  :)

--
Quim


From cybette at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 06:17:07 2011
From: cybette at gmail.com (Carol Chen)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:17:07 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Calendar and video production
Message-ID: <CAFEg0uGBmED002oZj=M6BLpPmYks_+NCVW-KS-ESmSMWA+qgEg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Just subscribed to the list and went through the previous posts, a couple
of them caught my eye:

 > Promotion of the projects through video production and blogging.
> Anybody in this list feeling like mentoring / coordinating the
> production of videos featuring Qt 5 on Raspberry Pi projects and helping
> out with their promotion?
> This could be the beginning of a Qt Project media team...


I'm interested in doing this. I've done quite a bit of documenting our
local events and meetups through photos/videos/blogging. It'll be great to
extend this to Qt on Pi projects.

As promised weeks ago at the [Interest] mailing list, we have now a
> Google Calendar for Qt events. The link is long but you can find it here
> in HTML, XML & iCal:
> http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events
> Please use it and help improving it. If you are attending an event with
> a Qt session then we all want to know about it!
> Currently I'm the sole maintainer of this Google Calendar, I'm a noobie
> on this and actually I'm not a heavy user of calendars myself. Yes, this
> is my way to say that more maintainers are welcome.  :)


I'd be happy to help maintain the calendar as well. We are already planning
a couple of local Qt meetups next month in Tampere and Helsinki:
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Tampere-FI/550922/
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Helsinki-FI/533242/

Br,
 Carol.

----
Carol Chen
http://wiki.qt-project.org/User:Cybette
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From juha.ristolainen at codemancers.fi  Wed Dec 14 12:20:06 2011
From: juha.ristolainen at codemancers.fi (Juha Ristolainen)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:20:06 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Meetup Tampere
Message-ID: <CAH+E2s5_JURGO0TmfXhpKGXcwsKxtUJzqfPJA6HzUmYbWan3Qg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I don't know if the local meetups should be added to the Qt Everywhere
calendar but we are having the next Tampere meetup in January if you wan to
add it?

http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Tampere-FI/550922/

-- 
Juha Ristolainen
juha.ristolainen at codemancers.fi
+358 40 7733 465
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From lpapp at kde.org  Wed Dec 14 12:52:35 2011
From: lpapp at kde.org (Laszlo Papp)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:52:35 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Priorities - News
In-Reply-To: <4EE233E2.8010501@nokia.com>
References: <CB07B368.1D243%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
	<4EE233E2.8010501@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAOMwXhO3+3ZS+SHT8mhm+2vhuer53czJk2HJMvZtF3Z3ups19g@mail.gmail.com>

> Should we propose http://planetqt.org/ to merge and start from there or
> are we talking about something new. If the latter, how.

There also interesting news collected on the following site (same
person like behind the "http://www.meegoexperts.com/" page):
http://www.qtexperts.net/

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp


From setelani at live.com  Wed Dec 14 13:11:34 2011
From: setelani at live.com (=?utf-8?B?U2FpamEgRXRlbMOkbmllbWk=?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:11:34 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Meetup Tampere
In-Reply-To: <CAH+E2s5_JURGO0TmfXhpKGXcwsKxtUJzqfPJA6HzUmYbWan3Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+E2s5_JURGO0TmfXhpKGXcwsKxtUJzqfPJA6HzUmYbWan3Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP19414534C9EE2C423E2A604AEA20@phx.gbl>

Hi,

Just to avoid duplicate entries, this is one of the events (Fi/Tre) Carol already asked to add to the calendar.

- Saija Eteläniemi

-- 
Lähetetty Nokia N9 ‑puhelimestani


Juha Ristolainen kirjoitti 14.12.2011 13:20:

Hi guys,


I don't know if the local meetups should be added to the Qt Everywhere calendar but we are having the next Tampere meetup in January if you wan to add it?


http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Tampere-FI/550922/ 



-- 
Juha Ristolainen 
juha.ristolainen at codemancers.fi
+358 40 7733 465


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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec 14 15:15:11 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (quim.gil at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:15:11 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Calendar and video production
In-Reply-To: <CAFEg0uGBmED002oZj=M6BLpPmYks_+NCVW-KS-ESmSMWA+qgEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEg0uGBmED002oZj=M6BLpPmYks_+NCVW-KS-ESmSMWA+qgEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB4C7C5@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>

Sorry for mobile top-posting.


Carol, the backbone of these local activities are the local Qt groups. Do you mind picking up the thread I started in this list, tell your opinion and start thinking how to articulate ongoing and future local groups in the Qt Project?


Finland is also well positioned to push a Qt network at a national level, just like you did in the MeeGo context.


I will give you editing permissions to the calendar later today. About the news, the discussion is still far from being mature, I feel.


PS: I'm starting holidays today until the end of.the year but I can find some community volunteering time for Qt community topics. Just bare with me if it takes longer to get my replies. Thanks!


On 12/13/11 9:17 PM ext Carol Chen wrote:

Hi,

Just subscribed to the list and went through the previous posts, a couple of them caught my eye:

 > Promotion of the projects through video production and blogging.
Anybody in this list feeling like mentoring / coordinating the
production of videos featuring Qt 5 on Raspberry Pi projects and helping
out with their promotion?
This could be the beginning of a Qt Project media team...

I'm interested in doing this. I've done quite a bit of documenting our local events and meetups through photos/videos/blogging. It'll be great to extend this to Qt on Pi projects.

As promised weeks ago at the [Interest] mailing list, we have now a
Google Calendar for Qt events. The link is long but you can find it here
in HTML, XML & iCal:
http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events
Please use it and help improving it. If you are attending an event with
a Qt session then we all want to know about it!
Currently I'm the sole maintainer of this Google Calendar, I'm a noobie
on this and actually I'm not a heavy user of calendars myself. Yes, this
is my way to say that more maintainers are welcome.  :)

I'd be happy to help maintain the calendar as well. We are already planning a couple of local Qt meetups next month in Tampere and Helsinki:
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Tampere-FI/550922/
http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Helsinki-FI/533242/

Br,
 Carol.

----
Carol Chen
http://wiki.qt-project.org/User:Cybette

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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Dec 14 15:20:13 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (quim.gil at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:20:13 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Fwd: [MeeGo-dev] Call For Presentations: Open Mobile
 Linux At FOSDEM 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAK=iLrm4mgLhMVc=euxzk4PJtXKBLWBOV-JFkADgmfkudMzrZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK=iLrm4mgLhMVc=euxzk4PJtXKBLWBOV-JFkADgmfkudMzrZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB4C80D@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>

fyi

________________________________
---- Forwarded message ----
From: ext Carsten Munk [carsten at maemo.org<mailto:carsten at maemo.org>]
Date: Wed Dec 14 01:55:38 2011
To: meego-dev [meego-dev at meego.com<mailto:meego-dev at meego.com>]
Cc:
Subject: [MeeGo-dev] Call For Presentations: Open Mobile Linux At FOSDEM 2012

At FOSDEM 2012 (http://fosdem.org) we will have a devroom related to
Open Mobile Linux. Our primary goal is to facilitate meetups,
collaboration and awareness between different projects and communities
within Open Mobile Linux and provide a place to present directions,
ideas and your projects themselves.

By Open Mobile Linux we mean any open source projects revolving around
typical non-desktop/server Linux, such as handsets, tablets, netbooks
or other creative uses. Examples of such projects could be Qt5, Mer,
MeeGo, Android, webOS, Plasma Active, Tizen, Boot to Gecko, SHR and
other related projects.

We have the room AW1.120 with 74 seats, a video projector (VGA),
wireless internet on Saturday 4th February for a total of 8 hours.

The format we will be utilizing is lightning talks of length 15
minutes with 10 minutes of questions, 5 minute changeover to next
speaker. Our goal is about 15 talks during the day.

The motivation is that after each talk, you and your project will be
visible to the rest of the Open Mobile Linux community and further
deeper discussions into your topic with your peers can continue
outside the devroom.

Please send a short biography and an abstract for your talk to
carsten.munk at gmail.com by Dec 31st 2011, and we'll get back to you at
latest January 7th.

We're also grateful for volunteers helping to run the devroom. Contact
me if you're interested.

BR
Carsten Munk
_______________________________________________
MeeGo-dev mailing list
MeeGo-dev at meego.com
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From adam.weinrich at nokia.com  Wed Dec 14 20:12:38 2011
From: adam.weinrich at nokia.com (adam.weinrich at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:12:38 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt on RIM Devices
In-Reply-To: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB4C80D@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CB0E57D3.3398F%adam.weinrich@nokia.com>

There is a Qt port for QNX/BBX/RIM devices.  Lets get this ecosystem involved in the Qt-Project!
Yes, I know, the code is not yet in the Qt-Project repository but it should be forthcoming.
The QNX/BBX/RIM ecosystem are very open to engaging with the Qt community and the Qt Project.

I am coordinating a Qt keynote and training at the Blackberry DevCon in Amsterdam in February http://www.blackberrydevcon.com/ as well as doing outreach to their developers at Mobile World Congress.  They are offering discounts to these events to Qt-Project community.

The Qt Developer Experience team will also be showing off Qt on the current playbook at the Qt booth at CES and MWC.

Those who already owns a playbook, develops for Blackberry devices or are interested in becoming involved are encouraged to get involved with this new Qt port.
Let me know if you have any insight or interests in making this a win-win for Qt and this new community.

Cheers,
Adam
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From stephen.kelly at kdab.com  Thu Dec 15 12:20:21 2011
From: stephen.kelly at kdab.com (Stephen Kelly)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:20:21 +0100
Subject: [Marketing] A catalog of Qt software
In-Reply-To: <4EE6738D.6090001@nokia.com>
References: <4EE6738D.6090001@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1336582.2uP3tKLMIX@hal>

On Monday, December 12, 2011 13:35:09 Quim Gil wrote:
> Hi, someone asked in the QtonPi mailing list about the possibility to
> have an online catalog to find all the software produced by the hundreds
> of Qt 5 projects. This is something I had in mind as well...
> 
> http://wiki.qt-project.org/Software_Catalog

I added a link to the inqlude project.

Thanks,

-- 
Stephen Kelly <stephen at kdab.com> | Software Engineer
KDAB (Deutschland) GmbH & Co.KG, a KDAB Group Company
www.kdab.com || Germany +49-30-521325470 || Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Mon Dec 19 17:23:40 2011
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (quim.gil at nokia.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:23:40 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Fwd: [Interest] FOSDEM 2012 - CrossDesktop DevRoom Call
	for Talks
In-Reply-To: <CAKcBokt9PeijZnC8SrZq_p66gQXVkkeBN+c+VrrLKb7x7gLC_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKcBokutdcG4t2zJ_bWShiz-EtK5F7iW26GJfwbsBVgnAiCqvw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAKcBokt9PeijZnC8SrZq_p66gQXVkkeBN+c+VrrLKb7x7gLC_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4FB4DDC8@008-AM1MPN1-061.mgdnok.nokia.com>



________________________________
---- Forwarded message ----
From: ext Pau Garcia i Quiles [pgquiles at elpauer.org<mailto:pgquiles at elpauer.org>]
Date: Mon Dec 19 03:27:36 2011
To: kde-core-devel at kde.org<mailto:kde-core-devel at kde.org>; kde-devel at kde.org<mailto:kde-devel at kde.org>; interest at qt-project.org<mailto:interest at qt-project.org>
Cc:
Subject: [Interest] FOSDEM 2012 - CrossDesktop DevRoom Call for Talks

Hi,

Deadline is quickly approaching! Please submit your proposals ASAP


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pau Garcia i Quiles <pgquiles at elpauer.org>
Date: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:50 AM
Subject: FOSDEM 2012 - CrossDesktop DevRoom Call for Talks


Hi,

FOSDEM is one of the largest gatherings of Free Software
contributors in the world and happens each February in Brussels
(Belgium). One of the tracks will be the CrossDesktop DevRoom, which
will host Desktop-related talks.

We are now inviting proposals for talks about Free/Libre/Open-source Software
on the topics of Desktop development, Desktop applications and interoperativity
amongst Desktop Environments. This is a unique opportunity to show novel ideas
and developments to a wide technical audience.

Topics accepted include, but are not limited to: Enlightenment, Gnome,
KDE, XFCE, Windows, Mac OS X, general desktop matters, applications that enhance
desktops and web (when related to desktop).

Talks can be very specific, such as developing mobile applications
with Qt Quick; or as general as predictions for the fusion of Desktop
and web in 5 years time. Topics that are of interest to the users and
developers of all desktop
environments are especially welcome. The FOSDEM 2011 schedule might
give you some inspiration:
http://archive.fosdem.org/2011/schedule/track/crossdesktop_devroom

Please include the following information when submitting a proposal:
your name, the title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles
will be listed with around 250 from other projects) and a short
abstract of one or two paragraphs.

The deadline for submissions is December 20th 2011. FOSDEM will be held
on the weekend of 4-5 February 2012. Please submit your proposals to:
crossdesktop-devroom at lists.fosdem.org (
https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/crossdesktop-devroom )

--
Pau Garcia i Quiles
http://www.elpauer.org
(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)
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