From jreznik at redhat.com  Tue Apr  3 12:36:51 2012
From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Marketing] Qt SWAG for Openmobility Conference
In-Reply-To: <c63f18e7-4ed0-41e5-8d90-59ea6196432e@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <02ee320a-99ec-4c05-89de-fa9c33eae6a4@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Hi,
I poked Quim yesterday on Twitter and he pointed me here.

We are looking for some Qt SWAG for the Openmobility 
conference [1] we organize, this April (21st 2012) in Prague.

The final schedule will be available soon but currently
there's one room/half day booked for Qt related talks and
workshops (Qt 5, QML/PySide, Mobile development in Qt/QML,
maybe QtMoko stuff [2]). I don't think we make QtonPi but would
be great.

So the idea is, it would be nice to have something to give
to audience, to promote Qt to the people - mostly open
source developers. There's running Qt development contest
already (sponsored by one well known Finish phone company :)
but no other Qt stuff.

We also have a few plans for the future - Qt Developer
Evenings etc.

Do you think it would be possible to get something?

Thanks
Jaroslav

Openmobility NPO

[1] http://www.openmobility.eu/
[2] http://www.openmobility.eu/conference/om2012/program-2/


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Tue Apr  3 21:31:44 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:31:44 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everybody!

 Now that we have a successful Qt5 Alpha release, we have a
complementary event to celebrate it, the wonderful Qt Contributors'
Summit. If you want to influence where Qt is headed, and engage in
fruit full, yet fun sessions and discussions  about the future of Qt,
this event is for you. Plus, you don't want to evening treat in the
form of super cool Qt social activity in the evening.

We've opened the registration[0], as approval for participation is
required (on a first come, first served basis). So hurry up and
reserve your place.


We hope we see you in Berlin this June!

-Sivan (on behalf of the organization team).


[0]: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDB6WkgzQW0yVmI0VXktaGt4bENDN2c6MQ&theme=0AX42CRMsmRFbUy03NThiZTgyMi1iNWZiLTQ1ZTUtYmJkZi00ZDMzODQ4NzA5YWI&ifq


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Tue Apr  3 22:13:12 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:13:12 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-YpQFbg2hJd1xPWaCtm4VdtkmF=92x=SHNtQ9ew4S9_hw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan at omniqueue.com> wrote:
> this event is for you. Plus, you don't want to evening treat in the
> form of super cool Qt social activity in the evening.

Ah...I typed too fast.. Of course I meant you *do not* want to miss
the evening treat! ;)

Sorry for the extra noise, but the night event last time was so much
fun I had to fix this.

Thank you for your attention,

-Sivan


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Wed Apr  4 11:17:00 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:17:00 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-ZYrB2eVhtWXJxvFHFkRRm6jJnScW=oSut3f_u9gdjAsg@mail.gmail.com>

We now have a human friendly URL for the registration page (Thanks
Thiago the reminder):

http://tinyurl.ms/50kb

-Sivan

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan at omniqueue.com> wrote:
> reserve your place.
>
> [0]: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDB6WkgzQW0yVmI0VXktaGt4bENDN2c6MQ&theme=0AX42CRMsmRFbUy03NThiZTgyMi1iNWZiLTQ1ZTUtYmJkZi00ZDMzODQ4NzA5YWI&ifq


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Apr  4 19:50:48 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (quim.gil at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now
	open!
In-Reply-To: <CAG0N7r=mgYhymLM8dk+G5q9eyZBXf6_qkVTQwVAV3ZbYep+Tow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZYrB2eVhtWXJxvFHFkRRm6jJnScW=oSut3f_u9gdjAsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG0N7r=mgYhymLM8dk+G5q9eyZBXf6_qkVTQwVAV3ZbYep+Tow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4F17791DFB@008-AM1MPN1-063.mgdnok.nokia.com>

Qt WebKit counts just like any other Qt module. In case of doubt get an indication or invitation from the module maintainers.


Quim


On 4/4/12 10:41 AM ext Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:

>From the registration page: "Reasons for Attending". What are webkit
people considered?! We don't fit as maintainers neither as approvers.
=/


Cheers,

-jesus
yet another QtWebKit Gerrit Outlaw


2012/4/4 Sivan Greenberg <sivan at omniqueue.com<mailto:sivan at omniqueue.com>>:
> We now have a human friendly URL for the registration page (Thanks
> Thiago the reminder):
>
> http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
>
> -Sivan
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan at omniqueue.com<mailto:sivan at omniqueue.com>> wrote:
>> reserve your place.
>>
>> [0]: http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
> _______________________________________________
> Development mailing list
> sivan at omniqueue.com<mailto:sivan at omniqueue.com>
> http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr  6 00:29:40 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:29:40 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Call for Qt Contributors Summit sponsors
Message-ID: <4F7E1CD4.3060505@nokia.com>

Hi,

I've started giving access to the Qt Contributors Summit budget to the 
companies that have shown an interesting in sponsoring the event. Ketil, 
Patrick, Gøril and other usual suspects in the Qt partners network will 
reach you sooner or later, but if you read this before just reply to me 
and we can get started.

The site can be found at 
http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki

The casual but hopefully effective approach we are taking for this Qt 
Project community event is to share all the budget information between 
potential sponsors. This way you can see in real time what expenses are 
we planning to have and how we plan to cover them.

There is a "Sponsorship packages" sheet where the 4 sponsorship levels 
are described. It goes from S to XL, from 1.500€ almost any company 
contributing to Qt can afford to 20k-40k for someone like Nokia (and 
perhaps another company willing to sponsor at the same level, we'll see).

Sponsorship packages can give you invitations to the event. This is also 
a way for corporate Qt users (but not contributors at this point) to get 
one or more passes and support the event at the same time.

Expecting a budget of around 80.000€ (10k going for sponsoring travel of 
independent developers) and 225 participants, these are the best numbers 
we came up with. If you have suggestions to improve the budget or the 
packages do let us know. As you see, your role for this event is more of 
a community participant than a simple sponsor.

We can keep this discussion over email or with a call, as you prefer. 
Thank you very much in advance for your interest supporting Qt 
Contributors Summit!

--
Quim


From marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com  Fri Apr  6 16:24:29 2012
From: marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com (marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:24:29 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now
	open!
In-Reply-To: <F0F44DC1F55FF2408C637A29F53EE7DC01244083@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZYrB2eVhtWXJxvFHFkRRm6jJnScW=oSut3f_u9gdjAsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG0N7r=mgYhymLM8dk+G5q9eyZBXf6_qkVTQwVAV3ZbYep+Tow@mail.gmail.com>
	<7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4F17791DFB@008-AM1MPN1-063.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<F0F44DC1F55FF2408C637A29F53EE7DC01244083@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F7EFC99.6000002@nokia.com>

IMO that's reasonable. They are an equal part of the Qt community as 
anybody else, since it benefits Qt directly.

-- 
.marius

On 04/06/2012 08:01 AM, ext simon.hausmann at nokia.com wrote:
> I think it would be great if we could extend the invitations to WebKit committers that are contributors to the Qt port.
>
> Quim, what do you think?
>
> Simon
>
> --
> Sendt fra min Nokia N904.04.12 19:51 skrev Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley):
> Qt WebKit counts just like any other Qt module. In case of doubt get an indication or invitation from the module maintainers.
>
>
> Quim
>
>
> On 4/4/12 10:41 AM ext Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:
>
>> From the registration page: "Reasons for Attending". What are webkit
> people considered?! We don't fit as maintainers neither as approvers.
>
> =/
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> -jesus
> yet another QtWebKit Gerrit Outlaw
>
>
>
> 2012/4/4 Sivan Greenberg<sivan at omniqueue.com>:
>> We now have a human friendly URL for the registration page (Thanks
>> Thiago the reminder):
>>
>> http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
>>
>> -Sivan
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Sivan Greenberg<sivan at omniqueue.com>  wrote:
>>> reserve your place.
>>>
>>> [0]: http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Development mailing list
>> sivan at omniqueue.com
>> http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Development mailing list
>
> sivan at omniqueue.com
> http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Development mailing list
> Development at qt-project.org
> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development


-- 
.marius

From sivan at omniqueue.com  Fri Apr  6 17:06:26 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:06:26 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now
	open!
In-Reply-To: <F0F44DC1F55FF2408C637A29F53EE7DC01244083@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZYrB2eVhtWXJxvFHFkRRm6jJnScW=oSut3f_u9gdjAsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG0N7r=mgYhymLM8dk+G5q9eyZBXf6_qkVTQwVAV3ZbYep+Tow@mail.gmail.com>
	<7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4F17791DFB@008-AM1MPN1-063.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<F0F44DC1F55FF2408C637A29F53EE7DC01244083@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-ZYAm3qQy0PU5uhXgt_NyAjRS_Px4X6JXGzzXQBZEJRdw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM,  <simon.hausmann at nokia.com> wrote:
> I think it would be great if we could extend the invitations to WebKit committers that are contributors to the Qt port.
>
> Quim, what do you think?
>

I second that as well, I also want to make sure how we can include
folks out of the Necessitas project as well.

-Sivan


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr  6 17:23:42 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 08:23:42 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now
	open!
In-Reply-To: <F0F44DC1F55FF2408C637A29F53EE7DC01244083@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZYrB2eVhtWXJxvFHFkRRm6jJnScW=oSut3f_u9gdjAsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG0N7r=mgYhymLM8dk+G5q9eyZBXf6_qkVTQwVAV3ZbYep+Tow@mail.gmail.com>
	<7C37471D020C0A4DBF3DE62B30172C4F17791DFB@008-AM1MPN1-063.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<F0F44DC1F55FF2408C637A29F53EE7DC01244083@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F7F0A7E.70905@nokia.com>

On 04/06/2012 06:01 AM, Hausmann Simon (Nokia-MP/Oslo) wrote:
> I think it would be great if we could extend the invitations to
> WebKit committers that are contributors to the Qt port.
>
> Quim, what do you think?

Sure, this is what I meant when I wrote

> Qt WebKit counts just like any other Qt
> module. In case of doubt get an indication or invitation from the
> module maintainers.

The "doubt" is not about QtWebKit contributors in general but about a 
specific guy interested. Just like any other module.

The only concern (in general) is that maintainers and core approvers 
just leave registration for tomorrow - and tomorrow (or are not really 
aware that this is happening) and then the 225 seats are taken by others.

I hope the Qt Project meritocracy does an effective work top-down making 
sure that whoever needs to be in Berlin registers soon.

Note also that all this discussion about invitations is orthogonal to 
sponsoring travel and accommodation for participants. If the person 
requesting the invitation is also requesting e.g. 1.500€ valued travel 
sponsorship then this is a separate discussion that is purely related 
with the event budget.

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr  6 19:56:28 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:56:28 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project shirt slogan
In-Reply-To: <12227267.uxRjAhyJsM@mu-arae.universe>
References: <4F6CB6A6.3040702@nokia.com> <12227267.uxRjAhyJsM@mu-arae.universe>
Message-ID: <4F7F2E4C.8070805@nokia.com>

On 03/23/2012 10:53 AM, ext Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote:
> "I am Qt"

Unless someone finds a very good reason not to, that will be it.

Thank you!

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr  6 20:14:12 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt SWAG for Openmobility Conference
In-Reply-To: <02ee320a-99ec-4c05-89de-fa9c33eae6a4@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <02ee320a-99ec-4c05-89de-fa9c33eae6a4@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4F7F3274.1080207@nokia.com>

Thank you for coming and ask. I hope we can contribute.

On 04/03/2012 03:36 AM, ext Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Hi,
> I poked Quim yesterday on Twitter and he pointed me here.
>
> We are looking for some Qt SWAG for the Openmobility
> conference [1] we organize, this April (21st 2012) in Prague.
>
> The final schedule will be available soon but currently
> there's one room/half day booked for Qt related talks and
> workshops (Qt 5, QML/PySide, Mobile development in Qt/QML,
> maybe QtMoko stuff [2]). I don't think we make QtonPi but would
> be great.
>
> So the idea is, it would be nice to have something to give
> to audience, to promote Qt to the people - mostly open
> source developers. There's running Qt development contest
> already (sponsored by one well known Finish phone company :)
> but no other Qt stuff.

I wish I could offer a couple of Raspberry Pies as part of our QtonPi 
program, but as you know they keep delaying the delivery. Still, if you 
are happy offering a voucher then we can talk. 3 boards for 3 great Qt 
developers?


> We also have a few plans for the future - Qt Developer
> Evenings etc.
>
> Do you think it would be possible to get something?

We are printing shirts and stickers as part of the Qt Contributors 
Summit but we won't have them yet for your event. I don't know if 
someone else has Qt swag available elsewhere.

Qt Project merchandising is another thing we should fix.....

--
Quim


From adam.weinrich at nokia.com  Wed Apr 11 16:49:59 2012
From: adam.weinrich at nokia.com (adam.weinrich at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:49:59 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
Message-ID: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>

Ubuntu has been adopting Qt in many ways and educating and encouraging Qt use is something I like to do at UDS.  Next month Qt will have a presence at UDS and for the first time we'll be sponsoring this important open source community event!

See http://uds.ubuntu.com



For those who don't know it's a free,well organized, informal geek-esq affair focused on the very broad interests of the Ubuntu developer community. A team of Sunnyvale based Nokia Trolls will be attending and an Intel Troll says he might pop in too.

We'll hold a few breakout sessions on Qt topics but any ideas  and certainly participation from local Qt community in the Bay Area are very welcome!

Anybody coming?



Cheers,

Adam.
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From thiago.macieira at intel.com  Wed Apr 11 17:10:52 2012
From: thiago.macieira at intel.com (Thiago Macieira)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:10:52 -0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <88945511.QjvrckVBmd@tjmaciei-mobl2>

On quarta-feira, 11 de abril de 2012 14.49.59, adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:
> We'll hold a few breakout sessions on Qt topics but any ideas  and certainly
> participation from local Qt community in the Bay Area are very welcome!
> 
> Anybody coming?

I'm checking my availability and will post once I know more.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
  Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
     Intel Sweden AB - Registration Number: 556189-6027
     Knarrarnäsgatan 15, 164 40 Kista, Stockholm, Sweden
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Apr 11 18:11:18 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:11:18 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
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References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F85AD26.2060801@nokia.com>

On 04/11/2012 07:49 AM, ext adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:
> Ubuntu has been adopting Qt in many ways and educating and encouraging
> Qt use is something I like to do at UDS. Next month Qt will have a
> presence at UDS and for the first time we'll be sponsoring this
> important open source community event!

Just for the sake of transparency, Qt Project will appear as Silver 
sponsor and Nokia is funding this sponsorship from the backstage.

Maybe one day the Qt Project will have a pool of funding for sponsoring 
events. In the meantime, ad-hoc action like this one are welcome, from 
any company.

>
> See http://uds.ubuntu.com
>
> For those who don’t know it’s a free,well organized, informal geek-esq
> affair focused on the very broad interests of the Ubuntu developer
> community. A team of Sunnyvale based Nokia Trolls will be attending and
> an Intel Troll says he might pop in too.
>
> We'll hold a few breakout sessions on Qt topics but any ideas and
> certainly participation from local Qt community in the Bay Area are very
> welcome!
>
> Anybody coming?

I'll be there.

--
Quim


From romain.pokrzywka at kdab.com  Wed Apr 11 18:43:00 2012
From: romain.pokrzywka at kdab.com (Romain Pokrzywka)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:43 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1466988.JR9sXzOqB4@romain-e6420>

Hi Adam and Quim

I'll be in the Bay Area on that week so count me in!

If the schedule still permits, I can offer to do a technical talk or a small 
training session, like we do at the dev days. Is it something you're 
coordinating, Adam?

Cheers
Romain

-- 
Romain Pokrzywka | romain at kdab.com | Senior Qt Software Engineer & Trainer
303 Twin Dolphin Dr., Redwood City, CA-94065
KDAB (USA) LLC, a KDAB Group company
Tel. Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
KDAB - Qt Experts - Platform-independent software solutions

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 02:49:59 PM adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:
> Ubuntu has been adopting Qt in many ways and educating and encouraging Qt
> use is something I like to do at UDS.  Next month Qt will have a presence
> at UDS and for the first time we'll be sponsoring this important open
> source community event!
> 
> See http://uds.ubuntu.com
> 
> 
> 
> For those who don't know it's a free,well organized, informal geek-esq
> affair focused on the very broad interests of the Ubuntu developer
> community. A team of Sunnyvale based Nokia Trolls will be attending and an
> Intel Troll says he might pop in too.
> 
> We'll hold a few breakout sessions on Qt topics but any ideas  and certainly
> participation from local Qt community in the Bay Area are very welcome!
> 
> Anybody coming?
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Adam.


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Wed Apr 11 19:30:26 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:30:26 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now
	open!
In-Reply-To: <4F85B8D9.9070805@nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-Ys2vuL71gfZ7F9nSaqiOWOMB+3B=1sSVnQ3buccpGRHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F85B8D9.9070805@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-b-PCw8eMUCYo3CW=KrKhpuuWtndx1X8AA5=Fpuck6sTw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> Just to be clear: Nokia employees follow the same registration process,
> like anybody else. Organizers too. Lars too. Me too. Everybody.
>
> http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki
>
> REQUEST AN INVITATION [docs.google.com]
>
> Direct link with a free ad  ;)  http://tinyurl.ms/50kb
>

LOL, where on the web today you get to see free ad? (I was quite
surprised tinyurl did that, I did not even give it second though when
creating the link never expected it to have ads ;)

-Sivan


From thiago.macieira at intel.com  Wed Apr 11 19:32:16 2012
From: thiago.macieira at intel.com (Thiago Macieira)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:32:16 -0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <1466988.JR9sXzOqB4@romain-e6420>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<1466988.JR9sXzOqB4@romain-e6420>
Message-ID: <1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>

On quarta-feira, 11 de abril de 2012 09.43.00, Romain Pokrzywka wrote:
> If the schedule still permits, I can offer to do a technical talk or a
> small  training session, like we do at the dev days. Is it something you're
> coordinating, Adam?

UDS usually doesn't have "talks". They have planning sessions where 
discussions happen on what to do in the next one or two iterations of Ubuntu.

It's the model we based on for the Qt Contributor Summit.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
  Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
     Intel Sweden AB - Registration Number: 556189-6027
     Knarrarnäsgatan 15, 164 40 Kista, Stockholm, Sweden
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Apr 11 19:35:41 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:35:41 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Call for Qt Contributors Summit sponsors
In-Reply-To: <4F7E1CD4.3060505@nokia.com>
References: <4F7E1CD4.3060505@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F85C0ED.3040301@nokia.com>

Hi, the information about the QtCS sponsorship packages is available at 
http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki/Sponsoring

Please forward it to the person in charge of marketing activities in 
your company. The Qt Project (and you) will benefit from QtCS banners 
full of company logos, right?

If you have any questions or suggestions I'm happy addressing them promptly.

--
Quim


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Wed Apr 11 20:14:39 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:14:39 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

 Doing more organization thought and work, we'd like to get the
discussion going about how to best organize the the schedule for the
summit.

 My personal experience from last year was such that it was a bit hard
to decide which sessions to attend, some I missed due to room locating
(perhaps that's just me ;))  but it extremely easy to actually
schedule my session and gather participants for it through the sticky
note system.

 Now, although this might be more related to the content rather than
structure but the latter could benefit- what about having top level
tracks that we can pre-decide on like for instance Qt Outreach (with
subjects: Docs,  Qt marketing, community and commercial visibility) ,
Qt Core (-beta efforts, bug fixing, features, users itches, new
contributors etc.)  Qt Platforms=(PI, android, iOS, etc.)  Qt Extras
(projects surrounding Qt that demand and contribute to its
development) and then - each track takes place in room blocks  such
that moving is easy within the track between the rooms.

Also, when checking the sticky board it might be easier to decide to
go to a session when it has the 'track' tag. Also, if hacking sessions
are scheduled just like any other session it might enable more people
to attend as opposed to background ones, as it can be pinned in one's
schedule.

>From my personal experience, having at least 15 minutes break after
each session would be great to catch breath, drink something and then
go to the next one. If our day is around 10 hours of day conf, and we
have an hour lunch break, that means we can schedule no more than 9
sessions of 45 minutes each day.


Thoughts, suggestions corrections (this is mostly my 2c from last
year's experience, the track names are solely for demonstration) ?


-Sivan


From romain.pokrzywka at kdab.com  Wed Apr 11 21:00:32 2012
From: romain.pokrzywka at kdab.com (Romain Pokrzywka)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:00:32 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<1466988.JR9sXzOqB4@romain-e6420>
	<1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>
Message-ID: <1760995.BezeCEDfzM@romain-e6420>

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 02:32:16 PM Thiago Macieira wrote:
> On quarta-feira, 11 de abril de 2012 09.43.00, Romain Pokrzywka wrote:
> > If the schedule still permits, I can offer to do a technical talk or a
> > small  training session, like we do at the dev days. Is it something
> > you're
> > coordinating, Adam?
> 
> UDS usually doesn't have "talks". They have planning sessions where
> discussions happen on what to do in the next one or two iterations of
> Ubuntu.
> 
> It's the model we based on for the Qt Contributor Summit.

Ah, I see. No problem then, I'll just tag along with the others.

Cheers
Romain


From adam.weinrich at nokia.com  Wed Apr 11 21:11:22 2012
From: adam.weinrich at nokia.com (adam.weinrich at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:11:22 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<1466988.JR9sXzOqB4@romain-e6420> <1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>
Message-ID: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C9C6@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>

On quarta-feira, 11 de abril de 2012 09.43.00
>> If the schedule still permits, I can offer to do a technical talk or a 
>> small  training session, like we do at the dev days. Is it something 
>> you're coordinating, Adam?

I have taken on the 'coordinating' role for Qt activities for our Qt community although theres no obligation to go through me.   Im hoping others from the Ubuntu side have Qt sessions.

Thiago wrote:
>UDS usually doesn't have "talks". They have planning sessions where discussions happen on what to do in the next one or two iterations of Ubuntu.
>It's the model we based on for the Qt Contributor Summit.

True but there is some wiggle room if the topic is aligned with enough Ubuntu interests.
Their community has much broader interest areas and much larger audience than Qt Contributors Summit.   Most sessions are breakout rooms with usually a group of people discussing a topic with an interactive audience of 15-50 and IRC questions too.  At past UDS we've  "trainings" in the form of live codings focused on an interest group (such as QML for designers) and demos that are discussions of the technology involved and how Ubuntu do something similarly. There is an expectation of some action items resulting from the event but this might just be follow up on detailed questions from Ubuntu devs.

This year we will probably try to do something on the Qt Media Hub BSD project because it could be of value to the Ubuntu TV efforts or maybe hook into Ubuntu one media stored objects.

I know that there is interest in the topic of how to create QML components on Qt5 for Ubuntu and properly do a Qt Creator target integration.   If KDAB could speak of their experience with the Blackberry porting efforts it would be a brilliant addition to a  breakout discussion on what a comprehensive Qt port for Ubuntu targets should look like.

Cheers,
Adam.


-Adam  
    


From michaelh at openismus.com  Thu Apr 12 01:01:14 2012
From: michaelh at openismus.com (Michael Hasselmann)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:01:14 +0100
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <4F85AD26.2060801@nokia.com>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<4F85AD26.2060801@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1334185274.2423.5.camel@brick.WAG160N>

On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 09:11 -0700, Quim Gil wrote:
> > We'll hold a few breakout sessions on Qt topics but any ideas and
> > certainly participation from local Qt community in the Bay Area are very
> > welcome!
> >
> > Anybody coming?
> 
> I'll be there.

Me too, partially at least.



From girish at forwardbias.in  Thu Apr 12 08:42:44 2012
From: girish at forwardbias.in (Girish Ramakrishnan)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:42:44 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <1334185274.2423.5.camel@brick.WAG160N>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<4F85AD26.2060801@nokia.com>
	<1334185274.2423.5.camel@brick.WAG160N>
Message-ID: <CAK5CuF8Tj-h2WceDi8RanEOA+XpU-74LJcJRZMGA+fGM+zdunQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Michael Hasselmann
<michaelh at openismus.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 09:11 -0700, Quim Gil wrote:
>> > We'll hold a few breakout sessions on Qt topics but any ideas and
>> > certainly participation from local Qt community in the Bay Area are very
>> > welcome!
>> >
>> > Anybody coming?
>>
>> I'll be there.
>
> Me too, partially at least.
>

I will be there.

Girish


From pmui at ics.com  Thu Apr 12 16:53:08 2012
From: pmui at ics.com (Peter Mui)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:53:08 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Resource Area at Ubuntu Developer Summit?
Message-ID: <749CFABD-C412-45EE-9D91-DE48F18FFA97@ics.com>

I have an idea for the Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS):

What if there was a designated "Qt Resource Area" (a table or sofa or lounge area) were UDS attendees interested in Qt could 1) meet others interested in Qt, 2) ask Qt questions and (hopefully) get answers, or 3) at least meet Qt-comunity people and start Qt-related discussions?  It wouldn't necessarily have to be manned all the time during the conference, we could post specific hours when there'd be someone there -- or have it (somewhat) informal.

(For example: at the SCALE conference in L.A. earlier this year all the Qt-related exhibitors had "Qt Used Here. Ask How" signs to prompt conversation.)

The idea is to create a physical space at the UDS where Qt interest and knowledge is more concentrated, a little less diffuse.  It would help raise the overall knowledge level of Qt in the Ubuntu community.  It would certainly raise the prominence of Qt at the UDS.

Or let me know if this idea is flawed and how it can be improved.

Regards, -Peter

From quim.gil at nokia.com  Thu Apr 12 19:55:42 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:55:42 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C9C6@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<1466988.JR9sXzOqB4@romain-e6420>
	<1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>
	<97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C9C6@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F87171E.1080800@nokia.com>

On 04/11/2012 12:11 PM, ext adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:
> Thiago wrote:
>> UDS usually doesn't have "talks". They have planning sessions where
>> discussions happen on what to do in the next one or two iterations
>> of Ubuntu. It's the model we based on for the Qt Contributor
>> Summit.
>
> True but there is some wiggle room if the topic is aligned with
> enough Ubuntu interests.

I'm happy running a casual Q&A / BoF on Qt Project governance, 
community, contributions, status of the project, etc.

--
Quim


From romain.pokrzywka at kdab.com  Thu Apr 12 20:50:02 2012
From: romain.pokrzywka at kdab.com (Romain Pokrzywka)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:50:02 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt at Ubuntu Developer Summit in Oakland
In-Reply-To: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C9C6@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
References: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C678@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
	<1969503.P8nlkc0cUd@tjmaciei-mobl2>
	<97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146C9C6@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <3025596.T7xYmkJVMH@romain-e6420>

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 07:11:22 PM adam.weinrich at nokia.com wrote:
> On quarta-feira, 11 de abril de 2012 09.43.00
> 
> >> If the schedule still permits, I can offer to do a technical talk or a
> >> small  training session, like we do at the dev days. Is it something
> >> you're coordinating, Adam?
> 
> I have taken on the 'coordinating' role for Qt activities for our Qt
> community although theres no obligation to go through me.   Im hoping
> others from the Ubuntu side have Qt sessions.
> Thiago wrote:
> >UDS usually doesn't have "talks". They have planning sessions where
> >discussions happen on what to do in the next one or two iterations of
> >Ubuntu. It's the model we based on for the Qt Contributor Summit.
> 
> True but there is some wiggle room if the topic is aligned with enough
> Ubuntu interests. Their community has much broader interest areas and much
> larger audience than Qt Contributors Summit.   Most sessions are breakout
> rooms with usually a group of people discussing a topic with an interactive
> audience of 15-50 and IRC questions too.  At past UDS we've  "trainings" in
> the form of live codings focused on an interest group (such as QML for
> designers) and demos that are discussions of the technology involved and
> how Ubuntu do something similarly. There is an expectation of some action
> items resulting from the event but this might just be follow up on detailed
> questions from Ubuntu devs.
> 
> This year we will probably try to do something on the Qt Media Hub BSD
> project because it could be of value to the Ubuntu TV efforts or maybe hook
> into Ubuntu one media stored objects.
> 
> I know that there is interest in the topic of how to create QML components
> on Qt5 for Ubuntu and properly do a Qt Creator target integration.   If
> KDAB could speak of their experience with the Blackberry porting efforts it
> would be a brilliant addition to a  breakout discussion on what a
> comprehensive Qt port for Ubuntu targets should look like.

Sure thing.

I liked Peter Mui's idea of having a "Qt area", and where such topics could be 
discussed depending on the interests of the passers-by.

Romain

> 
> Cheers,
> Adam.
> 
> 
> -Adam


From adam.weinrich at nokia.com  Thu Apr 12 22:58:53 2012
From: adam.weinrich at nokia.com (adam.weinrich at nokia.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:58:53 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Resource Area at Ubuntu Developer Summit?
In-Reply-To: <749CFABD-C412-45EE-9D91-DE48F18FFA97@ics.com>
References: <749CFABD-C412-45EE-9D91-DE48F18FFA97@ics.com>
Message-ID: <97EEA089A557A54DB69F7C084E3036EF0146D4E9@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>

Hi Peter,



-----Original Message-----
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Resource Area at Ubuntu Developer Summit?



I have an idea for the Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS):



What if there was a designated "Qt Resource Area" (a table or sofa or lounge area) were UDS attendees interested in Qt could 1) meet others interested in Qt, 2) ask Qt questions and (hopefully) get answers, or 3) at least meet Qt-comunity people and start Qt-related discussions?  It wouldn't necessarily have to be manned all the time during the conference, we could post specific hours when there'd be someone there -- or have it (somewhat) informal.



If we did this casually nobody would stop us but having a formal designated space is not an option offered by the organizers and probably considered inappropriate within the scope of the event structure.  The fact that Nokia and Qt-Project are formally supporting the event make it even less appropriate for my team to work outside the confines of the planners formal options.



(For example: at the SCALE conference in L.A. earlier this year all the Qt-related exhibitors had "Qt Used Here. Ask How" signs to prompt conversation.)

The idea is to create a physical space at the UDS where Qt interest and knowledge is more concentrated, a little less diffuse.  It would help raise the overall knowledge level of Qt in the Ubuntu community.  It would certainly raise the prominence of Qt at the UDS.

As sponsors we will have a demo table during a pre-arranged two hour event where questions can be asked.  We will also have Qt logos displayed by the arrangers.    I don't think we are supposed to display additional signs but maybe we can agree on a "Qt Used Here" tee shirt similar to what the trolls where at DevDays.      We're working on N9 Giveaway ideas (thoughts?) and the and we'll make sure to schedule multiple Qt focused breakout sessions (still collecting suggestions for those).  Maybe we can have Qt users informal dinner/beers after hours.  (I took the whole Unity2D team out to dinner last UDS because they love Qt!)   We will have prominence, but its not our event and we have arranged no permanent space.   But lets do everything possible to coordinate(Quim can probably setup a social networking approach for us to be virtually less diffuse).



Or let me know if this idea is flawed and how it can be improved.

Regards, -Peter

This is just my feedback. Im a Nokia Account Manager responsible for Canonical relations and perhaps overly concerned about being a proper corporate citizen even in an informal OS community environment.  Individuals have a lot more freedom to act in this context so I encourage you to coordinate together to do anything possible to show Qt power and pride in the best light at UDS.



Cheers,

Adam



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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Thu Apr 12 23:51:18 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:51:18 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F874E56.30905@nokia.com>

On 04/11/2012 11:14 AM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> Thoughts, suggestions corrections (this is mostly my 2c from last
> year's experience, the track names are solely for demonstration) ?

One aspect to consider: we will have video recording in the main room 
but not in the rest of the rooms. Perhaps we want to have curated 
sessions there, and leave all the rest for unconference setup.

--
Quim


From alexandra.leisse at nokia.com  Fri Apr 13 10:56:40 2012
From: alexandra.leisse at nokia.com (alexandra.leisse at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:56:40 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Resolving the wiki situtation
Message-ID: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>

Hello!

I assume everyone is aware of the current situation of us having two
different wikis: one at wiki.qt-project.org and one at
qt-project.org/wiki. It was never planned to happen that way, but
sometimes plans don't really work out the way I think. :P

Anyway, the current situation is stupid, and I have a plan to fix it.

Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that currently
live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki, below the
"Developing Qt" category. It's not the perfect way of doing things but
after long discussions, we agreed that it is the most pragmatic.

So. If you currently have pages in the making that haven't hit the wiki
yet, please create them on qt-project.org/wiki to spare us extra work. If
you have pages that you really care about being associated with your name,
you should probably move them yourself. :)

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers,
Alex
--
Alexandra Leisse
Web Usability Specialist











From girish at forwardbias.in  Fri Apr 13 15:50:41 2012
From: girish at forwardbias.in (Girish Ramakrishnan)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:50:41 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAK5CuF-A+RWtqjs1V-wvYQNz7ep+OCDNfAjy-Vdgw0aOuQnMZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alexandra,

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM,  <alexandra.leisse at nokia.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I assume everyone is aware of the current situation of us having two
> different wikis: one at wiki.qt-project.org and one at
> qt-project.org/wiki. It was never planned to happen that way, but
> sometimes plans don't really work out the way I think. :P
>
> Anyway, the current situation is stupid, and I have a plan to fix it.
>
> Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that currently
> live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki, below the
> "Developing Qt" category. It's not the perfect way of doing things but
> after long discussions, we agreed that it is the most pragmatic.
>

Will the old pages redirect to the new one or will the domain
wiki.qt-project.org completely die after thursday? Ideally former
since we have lots of pages in wiki.qt-project.org but I can live with
the fact that it will completely die.

I had also suggested that we make wiki.qt-project.org read-only to
Quim. Do you think we can just lock it starting this weekend?

Girish


From marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com  Fri Apr 13 17:57:33 2012
From: marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com (marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:57:33 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <CAK5CuF-A+RWtqjs1V-wvYQNz7ep+OCDNfAjy-Vdgw0aOuQnMZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
	<CAK5CuF-A+RWtqjs1V-wvYQNz7ep+OCDNfAjy-Vdgw0aOuQnMZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F884CE8.3010109@nokia.com>

On 13/04/2012 08:50, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM,<alexandra.leisse at nokia.com>  wrote:
>> Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that
>> currently live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki,
>> below the "Developing Qt" category. It's not the perfect way of
>> doing things but after long discussions, we agreed that it is the
>> most pragmatic.
>
> Will the old pages redirect to the new one or will the domain
> wiki.qt-project.org completely die after thursday? Ideally former
> since we have lots of pages in wiki.qt-project.org but I can live
> with the fact that it will completely die.
>
> I had also suggested that we make wiki.qt-project.org read-only to
> Quim. Do you think we can just lock it starting this weekend?

Ideally I would want wiki.qt-project.org to point to the valid wiki 
(which is now at qt-project.org/wiki). I really don't think we should 
spend time and effort keeping "backwards compatibility" with the old 
wiki entries.

-- 
.marius

From girish at forwardbias.in  Fri Apr 13 18:03:35 2012
From: girish at forwardbias.in (Girish Ramakrishnan)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:03:35 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <4F884CE8.3010109@nokia.com>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
	<CAK5CuF-A+RWtqjs1V-wvYQNz7ep+OCDNfAjy-Vdgw0aOuQnMZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F884CE8.3010109@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAK5CuF-ziO1eu6DcgPNx_qG4J_GNcjJV+EvOrLrkpMa9E2GeEw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM,  <marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com> wrote:
> On 13/04/2012 08:50, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM,<alexandra.leisse at nokia.com>  wrote:
>>> Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that
>>> currently live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki,
>>> below the "Developing Qt" category. It's not the perfect way of
>>> doing things but after long discussions, we agreed that it is the
>>> most pragmatic.
>>
>> Will the old pages redirect to the new one or will the domain
>> wiki.qt-project.org completely die after thursday? Ideally former
>> since we have lots of pages in wiki.qt-project.org but I can live
>> with the fact that it will completely die.
>>
>> I had also suggested that we make wiki.qt-project.org read-only to
>> Quim. Do you think we can just lock it starting this weekend?
>
> Ideally I would want wiki.qt-project.org to point to the valid wiki
> (which is now at qt-project.org/wiki). I really don't think we should
> spend time and effort keeping "backwards compatibility" with the old
> wiki entries.
>

I was hoping we could have a simple url rewrite, but I agree no more effort.

Some of our pages (like devices - http://wiki.qt-project.org/Devices
which went out in yesterday's blog post) will all be broken. But as I
said, I can live with that :)

Girish


From marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com  Fri Apr 13 18:19:54 2012
From: marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com (marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:19:54 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <CAK5CuF-ziO1eu6DcgPNx_qG4J_GNcjJV+EvOrLrkpMa9E2GeEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
	<CAK5CuF-A+RWtqjs1V-wvYQNz7ep+OCDNfAjy-Vdgw0aOuQnMZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F884CE8.3010109@nokia.com>
	<CAK5CuF-ziO1eu6DcgPNx_qG4J_GNcjJV+EvOrLrkpMa9E2GeEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F885225.8080305@nokia.com>

On 13/04/2012 11:03, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM,<marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com>
> wrote:
>> On 13/04/2012 08:50, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM,<alexandra.leisse at nokia.com>
>>> wrote: Will the old pages redirect to the new one or will the
>>> domain wiki.qt-project.org completely die after thursday? Ideally
>>> former since we have lots of pages in wiki.qt-project.org but I
>>> can live with the fact that it will completely die.
>>>
>>> I had also suggested that we make wiki.qt-project.org read-only
>>> to Quim. Do you think we can just lock it starting this weekend?
>>
>> Ideally I would want wiki.qt-project.org to point to the valid
>> wiki (which is now at qt-project.org/wiki). I really don't think we
>> should spend time and effort keeping "backwards compatibility" with
>> the old wiki entries.
>
> I was hoping we could have a simple url rewrite, but I agree no more
> effort.
>
> Some of our pages (like devices - http://wiki.qt-project.org/Devices
> which went out in yesterday's blog post) will all be broken. But as
> I said, I can live with that :)

Ok, the messaging since we got both wikis is that the old wiki will die 
and to use the new wiki from that day on. :)

Just copy the content over to the new wiki, and update the blog post.

-- 
.marius

From holger at freyther.de  Sat Apr 14 14:25:55 2012
From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Hans Peter Freyther)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:25:55 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F896CD3.7070901@freyther.de>

On 04/13/2012 10:56 AM, alexandra.leisse at nokia.com wrote:

> Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that currently
> live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki, below the
> "Developing Qt" category. It's not the perfect way of doing things but
> after long discussions, we agreed that it is the most pragmatic.

Hi,

could you please explain the direction of the move? E.g. wiki.qt-project.org
login is integrated with Jira/Codereview while qt-project.org/wiki is not.
Which wiki engine is used for the /wiki one? E.g. we are using sortable tables
on our devices page, I couldn't find this feature here[1][2] for the
qt-project.org/wiki wiki.

thanks
	holger


[1] http://qt-project.org/wiki/WikiSyntax
[2] http://qt-project.org/wiki/TextileSyntax


From berlinbikerx at googlemail.com  Sat Apr 14 14:31:09 2012
From: berlinbikerx at googlemail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_G=F6tz?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:31:09 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <4F896CD3.7070901@freyther.de>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
	<4F896CD3.7070901@freyther.de>
Message-ID: <713BA436-9B7B-425F-9400-3C0ADF3DD4FE@googlemail.com>

Hi,

Am 14.04.2012 um 14:25 schrieb Holger Hans Peter Freyther:

> could you please explain the direction of the move? E.g. wiki.qt-project.org
> login is integrated with Jira/Codereview while qt-project.org/wiki is not.
> Which wiki engine is used for the /wiki one? E.g. we are using sortable tables
> on our devices page, I couldn't find this feature here[1][2] for the
> qt-project.org/wiki wiki.

qt-project.org/wiki uses Developer Network login, it is not connected to Jira/Gerrit accounts, you need to create a DevNet account for creating/editing wiki pages here.

The DevNet wiki uses ExpressionEngine for the wiki, there are no sortable tables available.

Cheers
Volker



From holger at freyther.de  Sat Apr 14 16:01:02 2012
From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Hans Peter Freyther)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:01:02 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <713BA436-9B7B-425F-9400-3C0ADF3DD4FE@googlemail.com>
References: <CBADB6EB.28F48%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>
	<4F896CD3.7070901@freyther.de>
	<713BA436-9B7B-425F-9400-3C0ADF3DD4FE@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <4F89831E.1030404@freyther.de>

On 04/14/2012 02:31 PM, Volker Götz wrote:

> 
> qt-project.org/wiki uses Developer Network login, it is not connected to Jira/Gerrit accounts, you need to create a DevNet account for creating/editing wiki pages here.
> 
> The DevNet wiki uses ExpressionEngine for the wiki, there are no sortable tables available.

Hi,

what is the reason to go with the DevNet wiki as default? More content? More
users? Having to use a different username (the name of my jira account is
already taken) is really annoying, losing the capabilities of sortable tables
hurts too.

just curious
	holger


From alexandra.leisse at nokia.com  Mon Apr 16 11:17:01 2012
From: alexandra.leisse at nokia.com (alexandra.leisse at nokia.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:17:01 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Resolving the wiki situtation
In-Reply-To: <4F89831E.1030404@freyther.de>
Message-ID: <CBB1AD08.29060%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>

On 14.4.2012 4:01 PM, "ext Holger Hans Peter Freyther"
<holger at freyther.de> wrote:

>On 04/14/2012 02:31 PM, Volker Götz wrote:
>
>> 
>> qt-project.org/wiki uses Developer Network login, it is not connected
>>to Jira/Gerrit accounts, you need to create a DevNet account for
>>creating/editing wiki pages here.
>> 
>> The DevNet wiki uses ExpressionEngine for the wiki, there are no
>>sortable tables available.
>
>Hi,
>
>what is the reason to go with the DevNet wiki as default? More content?
>More
>users? Having to use a different username (the name of my jira account is
>already taken) is really annoying, losing the capabilities of sortable
>tables
>hurts too.

The DevNet wiki has a bigger user base and is quite established among Qt
users. While being far from perfect, it is well integrated into the whole
system, including content discovery features, and makes the transition
from user to contributor easier. The wiki instance on wiki.qt-project.org
is not integrated with anything apart from the logins, and making this the
default will fragment content and add extra maintenance work for a tiny
team.

We have a long list of stuff that we want to improve in the current
system, SSO with JIRA and plenty of fixes in the wiki included.
Unfortunatly, it doesn't happen over night.

Cheers,
Alexandra
--
Alexandra Leisse
Web Usability Specialist










From sivan at omniqueue.com  Mon Apr 16 18:50:46 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:50:46 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] [Development] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <CBAC4E1C.FA08%tuukka.turunen@digia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBAC4E1C.FA08%tuukka.turunen@digia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-ZALCPQtej5pEam4m1s5UTmNzb8_fTkmPg+TW8XF_41-w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tuuka!

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Turunen Tuukka
<Tuukka.Turunen at digia.com> wrote:
> I think using the tracks is a good idea. Some 'keynotes' in the beginning
> for everyone, and after that the tracks. These help in finding the most
> interesting topics.

So we need to see what tracks we could define for the summit. Any
ideas other than what I suggested?

>
> It would be good to plan a bit more ahead than last time (and have some of
> the sessions announced prior to the event), but I think it is still
> important to allow sessions to come during the event.
>

I second that as well. Perhaps we could have some sessions that are
expected to have many participants set in advance, and allow ad-hoc
ones to happen in between, perhaps in relation or not to the large
ones?


-Sivan


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Tue Apr 17 14:08:13 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:08:13 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Sponsored Participants- booking flights.
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-ZeL2GnOA1qtZrteOhkShrKuw8sLFAiQE4WywLEuvimCA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

 Realizing that for flight prices to be reasonable, participants
depending on sponsorship should be informed of a decision soon re
their status to be able to book early.

 Quim: Do you have a possible ETA for when decisions will be made and
communicated? If there's something blocking the process, is there a
way to help ? (Like for instance, providing more information etc..)

-Sivan


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Apr 17 20:08:26 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:08:26 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Sponsored Participants- booking flights.
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-ZeL2GnOA1qtZrteOhkShrKuw8sLFAiQE4WywLEuvimCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZeL2GnOA1qtZrteOhkShrKuw8sLFAiQE4WywLEuvimCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F8DB19A.9050208@nokia.com>

On 04/17/2012 05:08 AM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>   Realizing that for flight prices to be reasonable, participants
> depending on sponsorship should be informed of a decision soon re
> their status to be able to book early.
>
>   Quim: Do you have a possible ETA for when decisions will be made and
> communicated? If there's something blocking the process, is there a
> way to help ? (Like for instance, providing more information etc..)

The budgeting par is going well so far, thank you to the fast replies of 
a first wave of sponsors (we will announce soon).

I'm hoping to get some help on these two things:

- Deciding in which hotel should the sponsored participants stay. All 
the better if it's within the Nokia policy since this would make the 
booking easier for us.

- Having someone in Berlin processing the travel requests through the 
travel agency working for Nokia, again for simplicity.

As you see, the requirement is to be a Nokia employee and I have asked 
Daniel Molkentin help finding a volunteer.



An additional comment. The non-profit running the Qt Project is so small 
and its legal / accounting activity is nowadays solely focused on the 
server infrastructure and legal duties. This is why I didn't hesitate 
organizing the Qt CS still relying on Nokia for payments to providers, 
sponsored participants, etc. I don't think we need to be in a rush to 
move these activities purely to the Qt Project but I guess it is 
something we need to do at some point.

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Apr 18 22:33:57 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:33:57 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-ZALCPQtej5pEam4m1s5UTmNzb8_fTkmPg+TW8XF_41-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBAC4E1C.FA08%tuukka.turunen@digia.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZALCPQtej5pEam4m1s5UTmNzb8_fTkmPg+TW8XF_41-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F8F2535.70907@nokia.com>

Please let's define the basics of the schedule:

URGENT

- Opening and closing times + coffe & lunch breaks on June 21, 22 and 
23. Without this Kalkscheune can't organize themselves.

- Main room sessions (video recorded) will be cherry-picked and 
scheduled in advance or not?

- June 21 in the morning dedicated to plenary session only or not?


NOT SO URGENT

- Any other activity that would be scheduled in advance or does all the 
rest go to unconference mode?

- How are session slots distributed over rooms and during the day? 
Everything in a regular grid or do we have longer & shorter sessions?


Michael, Sivan & whoever else is interested: please push these questions 
and others you might have until we have agreed answers. Thanks!

--
Quim





From sivan at omniqueue.com  Wed Apr 18 23:17:32 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:17:32 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <4F8F2535.70907@nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBAC4E1C.FA08%tuukka.turunen@digia.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZALCPQtej5pEam4m1s5UTmNzb8_fTkmPg+TW8XF_41-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F8F2535.70907@nokia.com>
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> Please let's define the basics of the schedule:
>
> URGENT
>
> - Opening and closing times + coffe & lunch breaks on June 21, 22 and
> 23. Without this Kalkscheune can't organize themselves.

How about we gather at 8:00 register etc tags shirt etc , start at
9:00 ,  close at 18:00.
First c-break at 09:45 , lunch at 12:00, c-break again at 13:45,
15:45, 17:45 to closing.

>
> - Main room sessions (video recorded) will be cherry-picked and
> scheduled in advance or not?

I don't see how it can work out without in-advance scheduling, yes.

>
> - June 21 in the morning dedicated to plenary session only or not?
>
We could do that, but perhaps also allow them to happen throughout the
event if interesting guests arrive later? that said, we need to have a
device to announce them enough so people will know.

>
> NOT SO URGENT
>
> - Any other activity that would be scheduled in advance or does all the
> rest go to unconference mode?
>
As mentioned before, having hacking sessions happen as per track and
in-schedule will relieve interested parties of having to decide
between attending a sessions, or sitting to hack/learn, given it is in
their track of interest. (we cannot help it if another track has a
hacking session that happens during another track's sessions.) Those
not interested in the hack session can attend a sessions of a
different track at that time.

Also, some parts of Qt require/get a large number of participants
in-session, and require allocation of large enough rooms. I'd love to
see those scheduled in advance to not repeat last year's situation,
where those sessions were filled and people (myself included) gave up
attending since there was no space left to squeeze yourself in the
room ;)


> - How are session slots distributed over rooms and during the day?
> Everything in a regular grid or do we have longer & shorter sessions?
>
Judging by the experience of last year, I think it is not realistic to
have less than 45 minutes sessions simply because it is very hard to
achieve something (even a decisions) in less time than that. I also
personally think it'd be a good idea to try to confine to the one
duration to enable as many subjects to get discussed and not "hog"
room space.

So we just have 45 mins sessions. If a group needs more than that they
can take it , but if the room is scheduled for something else, they
need to continue on their own somewhere else (I imaging there'd be
enough room for that other than the sessions rooms, like the benches
we had in the venue last year).

How does that sound for a start?

-Sivan


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Thu Apr 19 20:19:23 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:19:23 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
Message-ID: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>

Time for decisions on another topic: Qt Project and aKademy

30th June - 6th July 2012
Tallinn, Estonia
http://akademy2012.kde.org/


- Keynote

Not confirmed, but we proposed it and we have chances to get a keynote. 
If we have it, who could run it? Lars confirmed that he won't be 
available. We discussed with Thiago a bit some time ago. Marius, will or 
could you be around in those dates? Any more names? Let's think of the 
content after we confirm the keynote and its speaker(s).


- Qt sessions

To be seen and discussed (if needed) once the schedule is published.


- Booth

We would have an option to have a booth. I'm happy to help but only if 
there are other Qt Project parties interested in sharing (or even 
leading) responsibilities and work.


- Qt Contributors Day

Discussions about this started at FOSDEM and I actually haven't been 
involved (which is great)  :)  What is the status? We need to give an 
answers to the organizers. I'm happy to help.


- Qt training / workshop?

I'm trying to find budget at Nokia (who is sponsoring aKademy) to fund a 
Qt training session or workshop. Something around Qt 5 and or Qt Quick 
with a focus on mobile / touch apps. I'm still hesitating whether this 
should be an activity clearly sponsored by Nokia or would be better to 
present it as a Qt Project activity. The facilitators would be a Qt 
partner other than Nokia anyway. I'll keep focusing of finding the 
budget first, but I thought you would like to know.


I think that's all?


PS: can someone (Knut?) create a page under http://qt-project.org/wiki/ 
to coordinate this work, list the people attending the event, etc?

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Thu Apr 19 23:39:52 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:39:52 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-ZLfRhXn4GMVKodGzpcpFDoSQ2kOphovfdMm5uuyxDYRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBAC4E1C.FA08%tuukka.turunen@digia.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZALCPQtej5pEam4m1s5UTmNzb8_fTkmPg+TW8XF_41-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F8F2535.70907@nokia.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZLfRhXn4GMVKodGzpcpFDoSQ2kOphovfdMm5uuyxDYRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F908628.1040401@nokia.com>

On 04/18/2012 02:17 PM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Quim Gil<quim.gil at nokia.com>  wrote:
>> Please let's define the basics of the schedule:
>>
>> URGENT
>>
>> - Opening and closing times + coffe&  lunch breaks on June 21, 22 and
>> 23. Without this Kalkscheune can't organize themselves.
>
> How about we gather at 8:00 register etc tags shirt etc , start at
> 9:00 ,  close at 18:00.
> First c-break at 09:45 , lunch at 12:00, c-break again at 13:45,
> 15:45, 17:45 to closing.

One iteration more, based on 50' sessions + 10 minutes break between 
sessions.

8:00 - Doors open.

9:00 - Sessions 1

10:00 - Sessions 2

11:00 - Sessions 3

12:00 - Wide lunch break, time for little meetings.

13:00

14:00 - Sessions 4

15:00 - Sessions 5

16:00 - Sessions 6

17:00 - Open floor, time for little meetings.

18:00 - Doors closed || Social event until 23h.


>>
>> - Main room sessions (video recorded) will be cherry-picked and
>> scheduled in advance or not?
>
> I don't see how it can work out without in-advance scheduling, yes.

OK, this is the assumption now.

Ass soon as we agree on the total amount of slots we will need to find 
out the best way of scheduling those sessions. A thread apart.


>
>>
>> - June 21 in the morning dedicated to plenary session only or not?
>>
> We could do that, but perhaps also allow them to happen throughout the
> event if interesting guests arrive later? that said, we need to have a
> device to announce them enough so people will know.

Good point. Maybe we can have plenary session every day at 9am, 3 in 
total. If we need more we could go for the last slots of the day at 4pm 
(maybe not the last day, though).


>>
>> NOT SO URGENT
>>
>> - Any other activity that would be scheduled in advance or does all the
>> rest go to unconference mode?
>>
> As mentioned before, having hacking sessions happen as per track and
> in-schedule will relieve interested parties of having to decide
> between attending a sessions, or sitting to hack/learn, given it is in
> their track of interest. (we cannot help it if another track has a
> hacking session that happens during another track's sessions.) Those
> not interested in the hack session can attend a sessions of a
> different track at that time.
>
> Also, some parts of Qt require/get a large number of participants
> in-session, and require allocation of large enough rooms. I'd love to
> see those scheduled in advance to not repeat last year's situation,
> where those sessions were filled and people (myself included) gave up
> attending since there was no space left to squeeze yourself in the
> room ;)

Maybe we don't want an unconference after all?  ;)

Something we did in a couple of Maemo Summits was to have an open wiki 
where people could schedule their own sessions as long as they were 
filling empty slots or negotiating swaps with other slots. A few people 
"content committee" could move talks to better spots, and there was some 
spots left empty on purpose for last minute sessions.

No call for papers, but no unconference either. I personally liked it 
but FULL DISCLOSURE I came up with that proposal, and it received some 
criticism as well. No system is perfect.


>> - How are session slots distributed over rooms and during the day?
>> Everything in a regular grid or do we have longer&  shorter sessions?
>>
> Judging by the experience of last year, I think it is not realistic to
> have less than 45 minutes sessions simply because it is very hard to
> achieve something (even a decisions) in less time than that. I also
> personally think it'd be a good idea to try to confine to the one
> duration to enable as many subjects to get discussed and not "hog"
> room space.
>
> So we just have 45 mins sessions. If a group needs more than that they
> can take it , but if the room is scheduled for something else, they
> need to continue on their own somewhere else (I imaging there'd be
> enough room for that other than the sessions rooms, like the benches
> we had in the venue last year).

Let's stick to 50' sessions followed by 10' break. This allows simpler 
schedules, more buffer between sessions for everybody to move on and 
decent frequent breaks saving us from the more complicated 30' breaks. 
There is a 2h break at midday, which already leaves plenty of 
non-scheduled time.

--
Quim


From michaelh at openismus.com  Fri Apr 20 00:10:38 2012
From: michaelh at openismus.com (Michael Hasselmann)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:10:38 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <4F908628.1040401@nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-ZggSeC9JuHwVszYQPZ0NC3NLb0KtW3pnEdJ63dC_XAmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBAC4E1C.FA08%tuukka.turunen@digia.com>
	<CAJNcf-ZALCPQtej5pEam4m1s5UTmNzb8_fTkmPg+TW8XF_41-w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4F908628.1040401@nokia.com>
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On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 14:39 -0700, Quim Gil wrote:
> Maybe we don't want an unconference after all?  ;)

I was thinking for a long time how one could avoid the to be expected
marketing talk in a panel session. If this is for contributors, the
panel session should reflect that.

Which is why I think a Hack'n'Tell like panel session could work nicely,
as an opening to the summit. See some pictures:
http://www.meetup.com/Berlin-Hack-and-Tell/photos/

It's really just a modified lightning talks session, but instead of
slides you have to show real stuff. Yes, running real code examples is
usually a bad idea, but in this format, it's explicitly wanted. If the
hacks are cool, and the speakers manage to explain the gist of it, it
can create an exciting atmosphere.

I can talk to the organizer of the Berlin Hack and Tell, and whether he
would like to help us out to create such a session for QtCS.

regards,
Michael



From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr 20 00:19:47 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:19:47 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
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On 04/19/2012 03:10 PM, ext Michael Hasselmann wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 14:39 -0700, Quim Gil wrote:
>> Maybe we don't want an unconference after all?  ;)
>
> I was thinking for a long time how one could avoid the to be expected
> marketing talk in a panel session. If this is for contributors, the
> panel session should reflect that.

fwiw top sponsors get a 2' marketing pitch connected to plenary 
sessions. That and a marketing BoF I'm willing to propose are the only 
'marketing talks' I'm expecting at Qt CS.

>
> Which is why I think a Hack'n'Tell like panel session could work nicely,
> as an opening to the summit. See some pictures:
> http://www.meetup.com/Berlin-Hack-and-Tell/photos/
>
> It's really just a modified lightning talks session, but instead of
> slides you have to show real stuff. Yes, running real code examples is
> usually a bad idea, but in this format, it's explicitly wanted. If the
> hacks are cool, and the speakers manage to explain the gist of it, it
> can create an exciting atmosphere.

This is very cool! It can fit in those slots at 4pm, when our brains are 
a bit tired for text and discussion but always curious for real action.


> I can talk to the organizer of the Berlin Hack and Tell, and whether he
> would like to help us out to create such a session for QtCS.

Wait, is he... ?

--
Quim



From michaelh at openismus.com  Fri Apr 20 00:31:14 2012
From: michaelh at openismus.com (Michael Hasselmann)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:31:14 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
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On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 15:19 -0700, Quim Gil wrote:
> fwiw top sponsors get a 2' marketing pitch connected to plenary 
> sessions. That and a marketing BoF I'm willing to propose are the only 
> 'marketing talks' I'm expecting at Qt CS.

Good.

> This is very cool! It can fit in those slots at 4pm, when our brains are 
> a bit tired for text and discussion but always curious for real action.

Hm yes, makes sense.

> > I can talk to the organizer of the Berlin Hack and Tell, and whether he
> > would like to help us out to create such a session for QtCS.
> 
> Wait, is he... ?

Stefan Hoth? Yes, he is. I'll see him next week on Tuesday.



From thiago.macieira at intel.com  Fri Apr 20 01:03:41 2012
From: thiago.macieira at intel.com (Thiago Macieira)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:03:41 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
In-Reply-To: <4F908628.1040401@nokia.com>
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On quinta-feira, 19 de abril de 2012 14.39.52, Quim Gil wrote:
> Maybe we don't want an unconference after all?  ;)
> 
> Something we did in a couple of Maemo Summits was to have an open wiki 
> where people could schedule their own sessions as long as they were 
> filling empty slots or negotiating swaps with other slots. A few people 
> "content committee" could move talks to better spots, and there was some 
> spots left empty on purpose for last minute sessions.
> 
> No call for papers, but no unconference either. I personally liked it 
> but FULL DISCLOSURE I came up with that proposal, and it received some 
> criticism as well. No system is perfect.

Pre-scheduling a few sessions is good. But I really would like to leave at 
least 40% of the slots free, for on-site scheduling. We aren't sure who's 
coming or what subjects will turn up during discussion.

As a consequence, there's also a temporal component: more sessions pre-
scheduled for the beginning of the event, fewer towards the end.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
  Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
     Intel Sweden AB - Registration Number: 556189-6027
     Knarrarnäsgatan 15, 164 40 Kista, Stockholm, Sweden
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From rauch at kde.org  Fri Apr 20 13:39:19 2012
From: rauch at kde.org (Claudia Rauch)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:39:19 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
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On 19 April 2012 20:19, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> Time for decisions on another topic: Qt Project and aKademy
>
> 30th June - 6th July 2012
> Tallinn, Estonia
> http://akademy2012.kde.org/
>
>
> - Keynote
>
> Not confirmed, but we proposed it and we have chances to get a keynote.
> If we have it, who could run it? Lars confirmed that he won't be
> available. We discussed with Thiago a bit some time ago. Marius, will or
> could you be around in those dates? Any more names? Let's think of the
> content after we confirm the keynote and its speaker(s).

The slot is confirmed :).


> - Qt sessions
>
> To be seen and discussed (if needed) once the schedule is published.
>
>
> - Booth
>
> We would have an option to have a booth. I'm happy to help but only if
> there are other Qt Project parties interested in sharing (or even
> leading) responsibilities and work.
>
>
> - Qt Contributors Day
>
> Discussions about this started at FOSDEM and I actually haven't been
> involved (which is great)  :)  What is the status? We need to give an
> answers to the organizers. I'm happy to help.

It would be great if we could make this happen, any input and help is
much appreciated.

>
> - Qt training / workshop?
>
> I'm trying to find budget at Nokia (who is sponsoring aKademy) to fund a
> Qt training session or workshop. Something around Qt 5 and or Qt Quick
> with a focus on mobile / touch apps. I'm still hesitating whether this
> should be an activity clearly sponsored by Nokia or would be better to
> present it as a Qt Project activity. The facilitators would be a Qt
> partner other than Nokia anyway. I'll keep focusing of finding the
> budget first, but I thought you would like to know.
>
>
> I think that's all?
>
>
> PS: can someone (Knut?) create a page under http://qt-project.org/wiki/
> to coordinate this work, list the people attending the event, etc?
>
> --
> Quim
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr 20 18:08:40 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:08:40 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAA0Jy_xBd4A5PyNorbDjtJBJfqWX4n8R4v67jpbDr5mAQ05agg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04/20/2012 04:39 AM, ext Claudia Rauch wrote:
> On 19 April 2012 20:19, Quim Gil<quim.gil at nokia.com>  wrote:
>> Time for decisions on another topic: Qt Project and aKademy
>>
>> 30th June - 6th July 2012
>> Tallinn, Estonia
>> http://akademy2012.kde.org/
>>
>>
>> - Keynote
>>
>> Not confirmed, but we proposed it and we have chances to get a keynote.
>> If we have it, who could run it? Lars confirmed that he won't be
>> available. We discussed with Thiago a bit some time ago. Marius, will or
>> could you be around in those dates? Any more names? Let's think of the
>> content after we confirm the keynote and its speaker(s).
>
> The slot is confirmed :).

Great!

>
>
>> - Qt sessions
>>
>> To be seen and discussed (if needed) once the schedule is published.
>>
>>
>> - Booth
>>
>> We would have an option to have a booth. I'm happy to help but only if
>> there are other Qt Project parties interested in sharing (or even
>> leading) responsibilities and work.

I have never been to aKademy (other than Desktop Summit Gran Canaria). 
How relevant are the booths? If we go for one, how should we focus it?

>>
>>
>> - Qt Contributors Day
>>
>> Discussions about this started at FOSDEM and I actually haven't been
>> involved (which is great)  :)  What is the status? We need to give an
>> answers to the organizers. I'm happy to help.
>
> It would be great if we could make this happen, any input and help is
> much appreciated.

Is there a way to know roughtly how many Qt Project people will be at 
aKademy? Just checking whether there is a critical mass. If we do this, 
which day would be?

>
>>
>> - Qt training / workshop?
>>
>> I'm trying to find budget at Nokia (who is sponsoring aKademy) to fund a
>> Qt training session or workshop.

Budget found!


>> Something around Qt 5 and or Qt Quick
>> with a focus on mobile / touch apps.

Probably the best is to do first things first, focus on mobile/touch UIs 
with Qt Quick with tips for porting KDE apps. We could have the N9 
smartphone and Vivaldi tablet (? we'd need to check with them) SDKs as 
references. In the last hour an overview to Qt 5 could be given using 
also the Raspberry Pi as example. This way we help getting fresh flesh 
into these projects.

Would something like this work?


>>
>>
>> I think that's all?
>>
>>
>> PS: can someone (Knut?) create a page under http://qt-project.org/wiki/
>> to coordinate this work, list the people attending the event, etc?

--
Quim


From thiago.macieira at intel.com  Fri Apr 20 18:23:34 2012
From: thiago.macieira at intel.com (Thiago Macieira)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:23:34 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
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On sexta-feira, 20 de abril de 2012 09.08.40, Quim Gil wrote:
> >> - Booth
> >> 
> >> We would have an option to have a booth. I'm happy to help but only if
> >> there are other Qt Project parties interested in sharing (or even
> >> leading) responsibilities and work.
> 
> I have never been to aKademy (other than Desktop Summit Gran Canaria).
> How relevant are the booths? If we go for one, how should we focus it?

I don't remember booths before 2010. In Tampere we did have a few.

But I'm not sure about a Qt Project booth. There isn't a single KDE 
contributor that doesn't know about Qt...

If we do have a booth, I'd keep it informal, a place to gather and meet some 
people who know more about the Qt Project itself, its workings and procedures, 
than a place to learn about Qt.

> Is there a way to know roughtly how many Qt Project people will be at
> aKademy? Just checking whether there is a critical mass. If we do this,
> which day would be?

We'll know more from the registrations once the schedule goes out and people 
are reminded to register. But until June, the list would be far from final.

> >> I'm trying to find budget at Nokia (who is sponsoring aKademy) to fund a
> >> Qt training session or workshop.
> 
> Budget found!

Again: there isn't a single developer who doesn't know Qt. Focus those 
trainings in more advanced topics or new topics (QML, Qt Quick 2, Qt Project).

> >> Something around Qt 5 and or Qt Quick
> >> with a focus on mobile / touch apps.
> 
> Probably the best is to do first things first, focus on mobile/touch UIs
> with Qt Quick with tips for porting KDE apps. We could have the N9
> smartphone and Vivaldi tablet (? we'd need to check with them) SDKs as
> references. In the last hour an overview to Qt 5 could be given using
> also the Raspberry Pi as example. This way we help getting fresh flesh
> into these projects.
> 
> Would something like this work?

I think so.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
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From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr 20 19:07:29 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:07:29 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
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On 04/19/2012 04:03 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Pre-scheduling a few sessions is good. But I really would like to leave at
> least 40% of the slots free, for on-site scheduling. We aren't sure who's
> coming or what subjects will turn up during discussion.
>
> As a consequence, there's also a temporal component: more sessions pre-
> scheduled for the beginning of the event, fewer towards the end.

Very good points.

In practice this could mean:

- 3 morning plenary sessions defined in advanced.

- 2 afternoon hack & tell sessions also 'blobked'.

- First day's schedule (June 21, Thursday) partially populated with MUST 
sessions. Process to propose a MUST session to be defined. (Michael & 
Sivan, ideas welcome).

- Part of day 1 track sessions and all of day 2 & 3 left empty for 
unconference adhoc scheduling.

--
Quim


From lpapp at kde.org  Fri Apr 20 20:37:11 2012
From: lpapp at kde.org (Laszlo Papp)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:37:11 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
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References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
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> Is there a way to know roughtly how many Qt Project people will be at
> aKademy? Just checking whether there is a critical mass. If we do this,
> which day would be?

What Thiago said, but if I take a look at this group, I can see a
decent amount of Qt/KDE contributors who might show up at Akademy as
well:
http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/members

Qt Contributors Day at Akademy is a very good idea IMO!

> Probably the best is to do first things first, focus on mobile/touch UIs
> with Qt Quick with tips for porting KDE apps. We could have the N9
> smartphone

I would be glad to attend, and help with that. I have put a lot of
effort into that mission (organizing KDE Harmattan Sprint last
November in Berlin, had a talk about the topic in question at FOSDEM
this year, packaged the kdelibs and kde-runtime stack with the
Community OBS, written documentation and so forth).

You can find the already ported and working KDE applications (along
with other useful information) on the following link:
http://community.kde.org/KDE_Mobile/Harmattan#Ported_Applications

>>> PS: can someone (Knut?) create a page under http://qt-project.org/wiki/
>>> to coordinate this work, list the people attending the event, etc?

I have just created one:
http://qt-project.org/wiki/Akademy-2012

I was not able to create something like
http://qt-project.org/wiki/Events/Akademy/2012 due to some issues (Try
to open this URL up). It seems to me the way: wikipages are mostly
created directly under the main wiki site with one subentry in the
URL. Anybody with more in-depth knowledge, please do feel free to
reorganize this arrangement, if needed.

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp


From marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com  Fri Apr 20 21:06:07 2012
From: marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com (marius.storm-olsen at nokia.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:06:07 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <4F91B39B.9040504@nokia.com>

On 19/04/2012 13:19, Quim Gil wrote:
> Time for decisions on another topic: Qt Project and aKademy
>
> 30th June - 6th July 2012 Tallinn, Estonia
> http://akademy2012.kde.org/
>
>
> - Keynote
>
> Not confirmed, but we proposed it and we have chances to get a
> keynote. If we have it, who could run it? Lars confirmed that he
> won't be available. We discussed with Thiago a bit some time ago.
> Marius, will or could you be around in those dates? Any more names?
> Let's think of the content after we confirm the keynote and its
> speaker(s).

Sorry, I won't be able to make it this year, I'm afraid.

-- 
.marius

From sivan at omniqueue.com  Fri Apr 20 22:11:31 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:11:31 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
> Ass soon as we agree on the total amount of slots we will need to find
> out the best way of scheduling those sessions. A thread apart.
>
Noted.

> Good point. Maybe we can have plenary session every day at 9am, 3 in
> total. If we need more we could go for the last slots of the day at 4pm
> (maybe not the last day, though).

Sounds good.

> Maybe we don't want an unconference after all?  ;)
>
> Something we did in a couple of Maemo Summits was to have an open wiki
> where people could schedule their own sessions as long as they were
> filling empty slots or negotiating swaps with other slots. A few people
> "content committee" could move talks to better spots, and there was some
> spots left empty on purpose for last minute sessions.
>
> No call for papers, but no unconference either. I personally liked it
> but FULL DISCLOSURE I came up with that proposal, and it received some
> criticism as well. No system is perfect.
>
What was the criticism about? It sounds like a good compromise between
unconf and order ;) In Ubuntu confs, all the BoFs are pre-scheduled
AFAIR but the sessions themselves are informal and unconf'd.

> Let's stick to 50' sessions followed by 10' break. This allows simpler
> schedules, more buffer between sessions for everybody to move on and

Actually, I wanted to leave 15 minutes to move around (hence 45') and
take a quick restroom break. Getting down to gory details, again from
my personal experience 10 minutes between sessions is not enough if
you want also to have a few words with the folks of the previous
session, and be in time for the next one.

> decent frequent breaks saving us from the more complicated 30' breaks.
> There is a 2h break at midday, which already leaves plenty of
> non-scheduled time.
>
So the 2h break midday will cover for 10' breaks between sessions?
(IMHO  abit too short ;)


-Sivan


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Fri Apr 20 22:23:24 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:23:24 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] qt summit 2012 schedule structure
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> - First day's schedule (June 21, Thursday) partially populated with MUST
> sessions. Process to propose a MUST session to be defined. (Michael &
> Sivan, ideas welcome).
>

Initial ideas-

* Sessions about parts of Qt that might be blocked by face 2 face
meeting and consensus, and
* Subject is urgent / high prio as per Qt5 feature promise (if Qt5
stable is not released by then) or
* Subject is high prio for Qt out reach. and
* Key people for subject are in attendance.

-Sivan


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Fri Apr 20 22:43:59 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:43:59 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-a6nH3h1z2B9tF5f46xx-Q2gSPP_z_V2ESJ7Nt_yybhBQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>
> - Qt sessions
>
> To be seen and discussed (if needed) once the schedule is published.
>
I have one talk proposal to show a quick kick start to QtQuick, for
connected, touch app. Cross your fingers for me to have it accepted
;)
>
> - Booth
>
> We would have an option to have a booth. I'm happy to help but only if
> there are other Qt Project parties interested in sharing (or even
> leading) responsibilities and work.

I'm in.

>
>
> - Qt Contributors Day
>
> Discussions about this started at FOSDEM and I actually haven't been
> involved (which is great)  :)  What is the status? We need to give an
> answers to the organizers. I'm happy to help.
>
Is this scheduled to happen in aKademy ?

>
> - Qt training / workshop?
>
> I'm trying to find budget at Nokia (who is sponsoring aKademy) to fund a
> Qt training session or workshop. Something around Qt 5 and or Qt Quick
> with a focus on mobile / touch apps. I'm still hesitating whether this
> should be an activity clearly sponsored by Nokia or would be better to
> present it as a Qt Project activity. The facilitators would be a Qt
> partner other than Nokia anyway. I'll keep focusing of finding the
> budget first, but I thought you would like to know.
>
Or, if budget is limited, you can get assistance from keen community
members who want to teach and spread the QtQuick word together with
the facilitator :) (I have a talk already with a similar subject, and
we could re-use the wonderful KDAB tutorial slide booklet we got at
dev days 2010 to modify for connected touch apps)

> PS: can someone (Knut?) create a page under http://qt-project.org/wiki/
> to coordinate this work, list the people attending the event, etc?
>
I'm attending and more than interested to promote and help the Qt project there.

-Sivan


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Apr 24 17:49:58 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:49:58 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <1473166.zYeQr2hjX9@tjmaciei-mobl2>
References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
	<CAA0Jy_xBd4A5PyNorbDjtJBJfqWX4n8R4v67jpbDr5mAQ05agg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04/20/2012 09:23 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote:
> But I'm not sure about a Qt Project booth. There isn't a single KDE
> contributor that doesn't know about Qt...

Would you say the same about Qt Quick, Qt WebKit and all the new 
developments around Qt 5?

I'm biased because basically all the KDE people I know have a Qt + 
mobile background but how representative is that in the context of the 
whole KDE community. Somehow it feels that a big % are fond of the Qt 
Widget & C++ side of Qt, have seen a couple of things on the new trends 
but that's it.

Anyway, I'm not sure whether a booth would help this either. After the 
feedback I tend to think that default booth situation = nope.

Raise you hand if you really think we should do it - and you are ready 
to volunteer.

> If we do have a booth, I'd keep it informal, a place to gather and meet some
> people who know more about the Qt Project itself, its workings and procedures,
> than a place to learn about Qt.

Yes, but a simple alternative to do this is to find some corners with 
tables anywhere in the venue, place a Qt Project rollup (we will have 
one after Qt CS) and just agree to hang around there. Works for me if 
this is what you prefer.



> Again: there isn't a single developer who doesn't know Qt. Focus those
> trainings in more advanced topics or new topics (QML, Qt Quick 2, Qt Project).

In my language "QML, Qt Quick 2, Qt Project" = Qt.

>
>>>> Something around Qt 5 and or Qt Quick
>>>> with a focus on mobile / touch apps.
>>
>> Probably the best is to do first things first, focus on mobile/touch UIs
>> with Qt Quick with tips for porting KDE apps. We could have the N9
>> smartphone and Vivaldi tablet (? we'd need to check with them) SDKs as
>> references. In the last hour an overview to Qt 5 could be given using
>> also the Raspberry Pi as example. This way we help getting fresh flesh
>> into these projects.
>>
>> Would something like this work?
>
> I think so.

Ok, we agree. My fault for referring to that as "Qt".  ;)

--
Quim


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Tue Apr 24 17:59:25 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:59:25 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAOMwXhOs+9TrKsOZKnVqNhrxq+Z9zBztsY31gCRT_fg-XhrzRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
	<CAA0Jy_xBd4A5PyNorbDjtJBJfqWX4n8R4v67jpbDr5mAQ05agg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAOMwXhOs+9TrKsOZKnVqNhrxq+Z9zBztsY31gCRT_fg-XhrzRg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04/20/2012 11:37 AM, ext Laszlo Papp wrote:
>> Probably the best is to do first things first, focus on mobile/touch UIs
>> with Qt Quick with tips for porting KDE apps. We could have the N9
>> smartphone
>
> I would be glad to attend, and help with that. I have put a lot of
> effort into that mission (organizing KDE Harmattan Sprint last
> November in Berlin, had a talk about the topic in question at FOSDEM
> this year, packaged the kdelibs and kde-runtime stack with the
> Community OBS, written documentation and so forth).
>
> You can find the already ported and working KDE applications (along
> with other useful information) on the following link:
> http://community.kde.org/KDE_Mobile/Harmattan#Ported_Applications

Great! Thank you for offering your help.

Jürgen Bocklage-Ryannel is helping us finding the right content and 
partner(s) for this training workshop. I believe we need to find the 
right balance between Qt 4 mobile/touch here-and-now and Qt 5. Or 
perhaps even make to independent but complementary modules, dunno.

In any case I'll try to agree the basics with Jürgen and find the 
trainers. Then anybody willing to help (e.g. showcasing real KDE apps 
ported) will be able to contact them directly and work together.


> I have just created one:
> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Akademy-2012

Great! I will be adding information as soon as things are confirmed.

--
Quim


From juergen at ryannel.org  Tue Apr 24 20:48:15 2012
From: juergen at ryannel.org (Juergen Bocklage-Ryannel)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:48:15 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <4F96CDDD.6070902@nokia.com>
References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
	<CAA0Jy_xBd4A5PyNorbDjtJBJfqWX4n8R4v67jpbDr5mAQ05agg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F918A08.7080002@nokia.com>
	<CAOMwXhOs+9TrKsOZKnVqNhrxq+Z9zBztsY31gCRT_fg-XhrzRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F96CDDD.6070902@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAMnA2wD2uDFQ1sTio0WgTTd3GEJC05aAhxJNsmcXdjmK=+mKTg@mail.gmail.com>

I''m here. Just let me know what's needed.

/ juergen

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:

>
>
> Great! Thank you for offering your help.
>
> Jürgen Bocklage-Ryannel is helping us finding the right content and
> partner(s) for this training workshop. I believe we need to find the
> right balance between Qt 4 mobile/touch here-and-now and Qt 5. Or
> perhaps even make to independent but complementary modules, dunno.


> In any case I'll try to agree the basics with Jürgen and find the
> trainers. Then anybody willing to help (e.g. showcasing real KDE apps
> ported) will be able to contact them directly and work together.
>
>
> > I have just created one:
> > http://qt-project.org/wiki/Akademy-2012
>
> Great! I will be adding information as soon as things are confirmed.
>
> --
> Quim
> _______________________________________________
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From sivan at omniqueue.com  Tue Apr 24 21:05:23 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:05:23 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> On 04/20/2012 11:37 AM, ext Laszlo Papp wrote:
>> I would be glad to attend, and help with that. I have put a lot of
>> effort into that mission (organizing KDE Harmattan Sprint last
>> November in Berlin, had a talk about the topic in question at FOSDEM
>> this year, packaged the kdelibs and kde-runtime stack with the
>> Community OBS, written documentation and so forth).
>>
>> You can find the already ported and working KDE applications (along
>> with other useful information) on the following link:
>> http://community.kde.org/KDE_Mobile/Harmattan#Ported_Applications
>
> Great! Thank you for offering your help.

I'd join Laszlo and assist him , as I missed the KDE harmattan sprint
it could be nice to get in the action ;).

>
> Jürgen Bocklage-Ryannel is helping us finding the right content and
> partner(s) for this training workshop. I believe we need to find the
> right balance between Qt 4 mobile/touch here-and-now and Qt 5. Or
> perhaps even make to independent but complementary modules, dunno.

I'd love to lean more about C++/QML aka 'extending QML'  - farely
advanced and not so known perhaps?  Modyfying modifying parent objects
up the object tree to mass-add functionality to an existing QML /
Widget code, we could make it tutorial/training title "Getting even
more from Qt" for those KDE developers who want to push the limits
further.

Also interesting would be to know all about QPA, a tutorial about that
would be nice. An introduction to developing KDE apps with Qt5 could
be nice for new community members wanting to give their share of KDE
hacking, but as Thiago said- perhaps there are no people in aKademy
who does not know how to develop KDE apps? ;)

-Sivan


From stephen.kelly at kdab.com  Wed Apr 25 11:16:49 2012
From: stephen.kelly at kdab.com (Stephen Kelly)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:16:49 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
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References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
	<CAOMwXhOs+9TrKsOZKnVqNhrxq+Z9zBztsY31gCRT_fg-XhrzRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F96CDDD.6070902@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <1501336.IHeIIgudVX@hal>

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 08:59:25 Quim Gil wrote:
> On 04/20/2012 11:37 AM, ext Laszlo Papp wrote:
> >> Probably the best is to do first things first, focus on mobile/touch
> >> UIs
> >> with Qt Quick with tips for porting KDE apps. We could have the N9
> >> smartphone
> > 
> > I would be glad to attend, and help with that. I have put a lot of
> > effort into that mission (organizing KDE Harmattan Sprint last
> > November in Berlin, had a talk about the topic in question at FOSDEM
> > this year, packaged the kdelibs and kde-runtime stack with the
> > Community OBS, written documentation and so forth).
> > 
> > You can find the already ported and working KDE applications (along
> > with other useful information) on the following link:
> > http://community.kde.org/KDE_Mobile/Harmattan#Ported_Applications
> 
> Great! Thank you for offering your help.
> 
> Jürgen Bocklage-Ryannel is helping us finding the right content and
> partner(s) for this training workshop. I believe we need to find the
> right balance between Qt 4 mobile/touch here-and-now and Qt 5. Or
> perhaps even make to independent but complementary modules, dunno.
> 
> In any case I'll try to agree the basics with Jürgen and find the
> trainers. Then anybody willing to help (e.g. showcasing real KDE apps
> ported) will be able to contact them directly and work together.

Do you mean ported to Qt 5 or ported to QML or QML 2?

QML appears in several Qt 4 based KDE applications. Only a handful of KDE 
applications build with Qt 5 at the moment, but they use widgets, not QML 2. 
They also have some plugin loading issues I think (so the file manager doesn't 
work yet for example), but those issues are solvable I'm sure.

Thanks,

-- 
Stephen Kelly <stephen.kelly at kdab.com> | Software Engineer
KDAB (Deutschland) GmbH & Co.KG, a KDAB Group Company
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From lpapp at kde.org  Wed Apr 25 11:51:31 2012
From: lpapp at kde.org (Laszlo Papp)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:51:31 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Project and aKademy 2012
In-Reply-To: <1501336.IHeIIgudVX@hal>
References: <4F90572B.60707@nokia.com>
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> Do you mean ported to Qt 5 or ported to QML or QML 2?

Qt Components.

Harmattan officially ships Qt4 (in fact, not even Qt4.8), thus I have
begun the work with that last summer. There were attempts recently to
get Qt5 running, but I am unsure how much usage that actually got. I
have not personally worked with a KDE stack based on Qt5. Please note
that: unfortunately working with the KDE stack and the Harmattan
target of the Community Open Build Service is underestimated by many
developers. People keep falling into the assumption, this attempt
"works out-of-the-box". This is not so, really.

On the contrary: my plan is to port the kdelibs (and runtime?) stack
in a way or other to the Raspberry PI device since Qt5 is officially
supported in there which means less pain. :-) I am unsure whether
frameworks or KDE4 effort this is going to mean yet, but I hope at
least partial results can get out of that attempt for aKademy. It
would be nice to discuss the technical details on some dedicated
mailing lists.

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp


From alexandra.leisse at nokia.com  Wed Apr 25 12:50:42 2012
From: alexandra.leisse at nokia.com (alexandra.leisse at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:50:42 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Release procedure in cooperation with the web team
Message-ID: <CBBDA3A1.29FFE%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>

Hello!

I started a wiki page with a list of stuff to do with regards to Qt
releases. It is based on our workflows from before and quite an efficient
procedure.

http://qt-project.org/wiki/Release-procedure

Please take a look and improve it as you see fit.

Cheers,
Alexandra

--
Alexandra Leisse
Web Usability Specialist











From alexandra.leisse at nokia.com  Wed Apr 25 14:47:44 2012
From: alexandra.leisse at nokia.com (alexandra.leisse at nokia.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:47:44 +0000
Subject: [Marketing] Release procedure in cooperation with the web team
In-Reply-To: <35AF748D429E1142B8C51414F7B0F1C6014153C7@008-AM1MPN1-052.mgdnok.nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CBBDBEB8.2A0B0%alexandra.leisse@nokia.com>

On 25.4.2012 2:37 PM, "Mcdonald Jason (Nokia-MP/Brisbane)"
<jason.mcdonald at nokia.com> wrote:

>> I started a wiki page with a list of stuff to do with regards to Qt
>> releases. It is based on our workflows from before and quite an
>>efficient
>> procedure.
>>
>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Release-procedure
>>
>> Please take a look and improve it as you see fit.
>
>Do we need to co-ordinate with the Commercial releases also?
>
>I remember being told to ensure that opensource and commercial releases
>went out at the same time so that one group did not feel like the other
>was receiving preferential treatment.  Perhaps that's not so much of an
>issue now that OSS and Commercial are managed by different companies.

Yes, that used to be the case. However, I am not sure how (and if) that
has changed now for Qt 5. For the last releases, I coordinated with the
other side directly.

Alexandra











From abenito at kde.org  Wed Apr 25 16:33:47 2012
From: abenito at kde.org (Agustin Benito (toscalix))
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:33:47 +0200
Subject: [Marketing] Akademy-es in Saragossa May 18th to May 20th
Message-ID: <CAPNLKcPqRrCbZWrZAxkhUoUhsVikXRMb0Q-VdCszXOUT2i=qoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

as some of you know, KDE Spain organize a yearly conference called
Akademy-es, since 2008. This year it will take place in Saragossa from
May 18th to 20th.

This edition's program has been published:
http://es.kde.org/akademy-es2012/programa.php

As you can see:
* There are some Qt contents (more to come through lightning talks)
* Qt is sponsoring.

This is a good plattform to promote Qt in Spain, as some other KDE
local events we organize in different countries.

Saludos

-- 
Agustin Benito (toscalix)
KDE eV Treasurer
Profile: http://es.linkedin.com/in/toscalix


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Wed Apr 25 19:35:21 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:35:21 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt CS announcement with sponsors
Message-ID: <4F9835D9.4020104@nokia.com>

Hi, I've just published


Planning Qt Contributors Summit
http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2012/04/25/planning-qt-contributors-summit/

You can see the logos of the first wave of sponsors at

http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki

Maybe we should go for the more traditional right column of logos. 
Aligning images to the right with this wiki is not obvious and I wanted 
to get the blog post out.

I will work on the sponsors page now, where each company gets also a 
description.

Thank you to our sponsors! For the prompt response and for giving us the 
basis to plan properly the summit.

Note that the 100% of the event budget is funded by these sponsors. 
Having a good collection of sponsors show the health of the Qt community 
beyond software releases. I'm happy to also say: let's have an applause 
for Research In Motion, stepping to the XL sponsorship at the same level 
than Nokia! This is a new type of situation that was impossible by 
design in the Qt-by-Trolltech and Qt-by-Nokia years.

The event budget still needs a bit more funds, and we are expecting more 
sponsors. Remember, the deadline is May 18.

--
Quim


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Fri Apr 27 21:33:34 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:33:34 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Summit 2012 : Tracks for easy interest navigation?
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-YH=mb3Q6N1U=tmaS-RXnQ1gEevpU8YSbxf++7vDNMdWg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tuuka,

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Turunen Tuukka
<Tuukka.Turunen at digia.com> wrote:
> I think using the tracks is a good idea. Some 'keynotes' in the beginning
> for everyone, and after that the tracks. These help in finding the most
> interesting topics.
>
In favor of discussing this separately  I started a new thread, to
remind- some my suggested tracks were:
+ Qt Outreach (Docs,  Marketing, Community, Commercial visibility) ,
+ Qt Core (-beta efforts, bug fixing sprint, feature finish, users
itches, new contributors etc.)
+ Qt On (PI, android, iOS, etc.)
+ Qt Extras (projects surrounding Qt that demand and contribute to its
development)


Would be great to get some feedback/suggestions from the two lists,

Thanks!

-Sivan


From quim.gil at nokia.com  Fri Apr 27 21:50:50 2012
From: quim.gil at nokia.com (Quim Gil)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:50:50 -0700
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Summit 2012 : Tracks for easy interest
	navigation?
In-Reply-To: <CAJNcf-YH=mb3Q6N1U=tmaS-RXnQ1gEevpU8YSbxf++7vDNMdWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNcf-YH=mb3Q6N1U=tmaS-RXnQ1gEevpU8YSbxf++7vDNMdWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F9AF89A.4060107@nokia.com>

Let's not abuse cross-posting, please.

On 04/27/2012 12:33 PM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> Hi Tuuka,
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Turunen Tuukka
> <Tuukka.Turunen at digia.com>  wrote:
>> I think using the tracks is a good idea. Some 'keynotes' in the beginning
>> for everyone, and after that the tracks. These help in finding the most
>> interesting topics.
>>
> In favor of discussing this separately  I started a new thread, to
> remind- some my suggested tracks were:
> + Qt Outreach (Docs,  Marketing, Community, Commercial visibility) ,
> + Qt Core (-beta efforts, bug fixing sprint, feature finish, users
> itches, new contributors etc.)
> + Qt On (PI, android, iOS, etc.)
> + Qt Extras (projects surrounding Qt that demand and contribute to its
> development)

Before discussing tracks, can we decide which sessions we do want to 
have scheduled in advanced?

We have

- 3 plenary sessions for the beginning of every morning.
- 2 plenary 'hack & tell' sessions to be confirmed.
- Last session, probably a plenary closure.

The rest of sessions will run in parallel. What topics do we want to 
schedule in advance at the main room, with video recording?

My bet is that once we have pre-filled the schedule we won't need to go 
for tracks for the rest. Unconference process will take care of itself.

--
Quim


From sivan at omniqueue.com  Fri Apr 27 22:08:33 2012
From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:08:33 +0300
Subject: [Marketing] Qt Summit 2012 : Tracks for easy interest
	navigation?
In-Reply-To: <4F9AF89A.4060107@nokia.com>
References: <CAJNcf-YH=mb3Q6N1U=tmaS-RXnQ1gEevpU8YSbxf++7vDNMdWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F9AF89A.4060107@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNcf-aK9w=fr0vYW_nFc43dprZ=+UwhxQSgHFbVfmpLBKZB_A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> Let's not abuse cross-posting, please.
>
Oops, sorry- I did not realize we might not require tracks, and did
not mean to noise development@/others.

> Before discussing tracks, can we decide which sessions we do want to
> have scheduled in advanced?
>
This is just for the video recording right? Or does it apply also to
discus- nd-plan sessions?

> We have
>
> - 3 plenary sessions for the beginning of every morning.
> - 2 plenary 'hack & tell' sessions to be confirmed.

What are the expected topics?

> - Last session, probably a plenary closure.
>
> The rest of sessions will run in parallel. What topics do we want to
> schedule in advance at the main room, with video recording?
>
IIRC, I did not see any other proposals so far than what's here[0].
Are you aware of a larger list of topics?

[0]: http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki/Program

--
-Sivan