From Lars.Knoll at digia.com Thu Nov 8 21:05:04 2012 From: Lars.Knoll at digia.com (Knoll Lars) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:05:04 +0000 Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference Message-ID: Hi, we have been trying to find out when and how do do the next Qt Contributor Summit. One option that came up after some discussions with people from the KDE community was to co-host the event at Akademy next year. The KDE conference will be in Bilbao from the 13-19th of July (see http://dot.kde.org/2012/10/18/akademy-2013-bilbao). The idea was to organise the Qt Contributor summit there at around the same time, but not overlapping with the KDE conference schedule. This would not necessarily mean that we will do this every year, but next year might be very interesting, with KDE also moving over to Qt 5. Before we go ahead and confirm this I'd like to hear some feedback on this from people on the list. We can also discuss this at the Qt Contributor day on Monday in Berlin if there is a need to discuss further. Cheers, Lars -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randall.arnold at texrat.net Thu Nov 8 21:14:56 2012 From: randall.arnold at texrat.net (Randall G. Arnold) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:14:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Sounds like a great idea Lars. Maybe by then Jolla will even be ready to sponsor. ;) Randy On November 8, 2012 at 2:05 PM Knoll Lars wrote: > Hi, > > we have been trying to find out when and how do do the next Qt Contributor > Summit. One option that came up after some discussions with people from the > KDE community was to co-host the event at Akademy next year. The KDE > conference will be in Bilbao from the 13-19th of July (see > http://dot.kde.org/2012/10/18/akademy-2013-bilbao > ). The idea was to > organise the Qt Contributor summit there at around the same time, but not > overlapping with the KDE conference schedule. This would not necessarily mean > that we will do this every year, but next year might be very interesting, with > KDE also moving over to Qt 5. > > Before we go ahead and confirm this I'd like to hear some feedback on this > from people on the list. We can also discuss this at the Qt Contributor day on > Monday in Berlin if there is a need to discuss further. > > Cheers, > Lars > _______________________________________________ Marketing mailing list Marketing at qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelh at openismus.com Thu Nov 8 21:20:35 2012 From: michaelh at openismus.com (Michael Hasselmann) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:20:35 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference In-Reply-To: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> References: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Message-ID: <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> Hi, with the Qt Dev Days now being in Berlin, it's only fair to move the contributor summit elsewhere. We had two great summits here and I would probably help with the third one again. However, Bilbao might be cheaper overall? Especially if it safes one flight from/to Berlin/Bilbao. However, 10+ days of conferencing is tough. So try to leave at least the weekend between the conferences. regards, Michael From sivang at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 23:14:59 2012 From: sivang at gmail.com (Sivan Green) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:14:59 +0200 Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference In-Reply-To: References: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> Message-ID: Forgot to cc the list. This would also enable kde students and new comers to interest in qt contribution. On Nov 9, 2012 12:10 AM, "Sivan Green" wrote: > I secon that, this will enable those sponsored by KDE to participate in Qt > summit and even allow them to help organization just like last year ;-) > > +2 on my side. > > -Sivan > On Nov 8, 2012 10:20 PM, "Michael Hasselmann" > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> with the Qt Dev Days now being in Berlin, it's only fair to move the >> contributor summit elsewhere. We had two great summits here and I would >> probably help with the third one again. However, Bilbao might be cheaper >> overall? Especially if it safes one flight from/to Berlin/Bilbao. >> >> However, 10+ days of conferencing is tough. So try to leave at least the >> weekend between the conferences. >> >> regards, >> Michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Marketing mailing list >> Marketing at qt-project.org >> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Knut.Yrvin at digia.com Fri Nov 9 00:46:29 2012 From: Knut.Yrvin at digia.com (Yrvin Knut) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 23:46:29 +0000 Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference In-Reply-To: <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> References: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com>, <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> Message-ID: <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> Michael Hasselmann [michaelh at openismus.com] wrote: > However, 10+ days of conferencing is tough. So try to leave at > least the weekend between the conferences. One suggestion when KDE asked to co-host Qt Contributors' Summit, was to run the Contrib.Summit on Wednesday-Friday or Thursday-Saturday "inside" the KDE Akademy 8-9 day program. It was three main reasons: 1. It could make the conference even more interesting with a wider program. 2. Secondly it will strengthen the Qt/KDE community. 3. People tending both events don't get to exhausted. I'm told from the KDE organizers that the University in Bilbao is fairly big and got enough space for hosting all participants with rooms++. Best regards Knut Yrvin -- Open Source Community Manager - Digia, Qt Email: knut.yrvin at digia.com - Mobile: + 47 934 79 561 Visit us on: http://qt.digia.com From mirko at agile-workers.com Fri Nov 9 11:31:45 2012 From: mirko at agile-workers.com (Mirko Boehm) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:31:45 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference In-Reply-To: <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> References: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com>, <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> Message-ID: <509CDB91.1020904@agile-workers.com> On 11/09/2012 12:46 AM, Yrvin Knut wrote: > Michael Hasselmann [michaelh at openismus.com] wrote: >> > However, 10+ days of conferencing is tough. So try to leave at >> > least the weekend between the conferences. > One suggestion when KDE asked to co-host Qt Contributors' Summit, was to run the Contrib.Summit on Wednesday-Friday or Thursday-Saturday "inside" the KDE Akademy 8-9 day program. It was three main reasons: 1. It could make the conference even more interesting with a wider program. 2. Secondly it will strengthen the Qt/KDE community. 3. People tending both events don't get to exhausted. > > I'm told from the KDE organizers that the University in Bilbao is fairly big and got enough space for hosting all participants with rooms++. Hi, I am not sure about this proposal. There is quite an overlap between KDE and Qt contributors, and then can work on either Qt or KDE, not on both. On the other hand, there could be synergies from working on where Qt and KDE intersect. But I tend to think that having a Qt Contributor Summit that leads into Akademy and a KDE hack time that leads out of Akademy is better. Cheers, Mirko. -- Mirko Boehm | mirko at kde.org | KDE e.V. FSFE Fellow, FSFE Team Germany Qt Certified Specialist From pgquiles at elpauer.org Fri Nov 9 14:25:25 2012 From: pgquiles at elpauer.org (Pau Garcia i Quiles) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:25:25 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Co-hosting Qt Contributor Days at Akademy conference In-Reply-To: <509CDB91.1020904@agile-workers.com> References: <1864297600.1003579.1352405696372.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <509CDB91.1020904@agile-workers.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Mirko Boehm wrote: > But I tend to think that having a Qt Contributor Summit that leads into > Akademy and a KDE hack time that leads out of Akademy is better. +1 I have said this many times over the years: let's "sell" kdelibs as one more more module of Qt, like there is QtCore, QtGui, QtNetwork, etc. Now that we have KFrameworks which have less dependencies on KDE-specific stuff, even more so. -- Pau Garcia i Quiles http://www.elpauer.org (Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer) From jos at opensuse.org Mon Nov 12 21:31:27 2012 From: jos at opensuse.org (Jos Poortvliet) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:31:27 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Notes Message-ID: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> Heya marketeers, Quickly as I'm new here: I'm Jos Poortvliet, openSUSE Community manager and I've been involved in KDE marketing for 10+ years. I participated in a discussion today at the qtdevdays about marketing the Qt project and I made some promises including sending the notes. I did write this out a bit to make it easier to follow - no bullets for now. Hope it all makes sense. I was not there the whole meeting and I didn't take notes the whole time - so this is incomplete. But it's something which, as they say, is better than nothing :D ============= We need to do more to promote Qt Project. With Nokia gone, dedicated 'just promoting Qt' resources are much more limited. For one thing, we need to build up a program of going to events and promoting Qt. The companies and communities around Qt, like Digia, KDAB, RIM, KDE and others, can and should help with this. It is in their best interest. Right now, if we go to conferences, 80% of the message is Qt for each of us... We're at a conference 3-4 times, confusing the heck out of customers. If we would pool our resources, we'd be there 5 times as big and we'd all profit from it. But that is not an easy thing, some rules are needed. There are two ways of doing events: bottom-up and top-down. As companies, there is a number of events we need to be at, to talk to (potential) customers. But there are also many events Qt needs to be at, more community- focused events. And there is overlap between these two. We need to think about scenario's on how to deal with these. At least, we have to create a Qt materials box and other online materials. That means Qt can be presented more easily at events only visited by the community. But more commercial events where we have companies involved, how do we represent Qt there? If only one company is there, there is no way to guarantee they represent Qt and thus they should not be there as the official Qt project. But at many events, we can do a shared presence. Then, two or more companies, with or without community volunteers, CAN represent Qt. We need to lay down some ground rules for that and have materials etcetera. Creating that in advance is hard. We should just 'start'! Organize a 'simple' community event like FOSDEM and a basic commercial event. With the first, we can see how we can collaborate with community, with the second we can have companies work together. The rules can be made up while we go and we can document it then for the future. But it needs steering, who's gonna control this? There will be money involved: we have to buy and distribute materials, for example. And later, have a travel committee and things like that. Can the Qt Hosting foundation do this? Lars will look into that. What is the Qt project in this, is it a meritocracy? Lars officially can step in but he wants to not interfere. We need marketing maintainers... The marketing team has a task here: become a moderator, planner, etcetera. We need to get a list of events our partners (commercial and community) want to go to, a reporting infrastructure, a way to disseminate money, things like that. I (jos) offered some help as I've set up a lot of these things in openSUSE, building the ambassador program. We've got a travel committee, a way of sending materials, planning and reporting, etcetera. Social media discussion: Several people now update our official social media channels. But there are just a few people and we can do better. Growth has a downside: things can go wrong and we should have a kind of policy for them. Kalle will write a proposal of a Social Media account policy: * for our official project accounts: ** What is proper and what is not (Content has to be about Qt; no company- specific promo; no more than 1 message/hour; etc) * for the planet: what goes, what doesn't. Have a lot of fun, Jos -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Randy On November 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote: > Heya marketeers, > > Quickly as I'm new here: I'm Jos Poortvliet, openSUSE Community manager and > I've been involved in KDE marketing for 10+ years. I participated in a > discussion today at the qtdevdays about marketing the Qt project and I made > some promises including sending the notes. I did write this out a bit to make > it easier to follow - no bullets for now. Hope it all makes sense. > > I was not there the whole meeting and I didn't take notes the whole time - so > this is incomplete. But it's something which, as they say, is better than > nothing :D > > ============= > We need to do more to promote Qt Project. With Nokia gone, dedicated 'just > promoting Qt' resources are much more limited. For one thing, we need to build > up a program of going to events and promoting Qt. > > The companies and communities around Qt, like Digia, KDAB, RIM, KDE and > others, can and should help with this. It is in their best interest. Right > now, if we go to conferences, 80% of the message is Qt for each of us... We're > at a conference 3-4 times, confusing the heck out of customers. If we would > pool our resources, we'd be there 5 times as big and we'd all profit from it. > But that is not an easy thing, some rules are needed. > > There are two ways of doing events: bottom-up and top-down. As companies, > there is a number of events we need to be at, to talk to (potential) > customers. But there are also many events Qt needs to be at, more community- > focused events. And there is overlap between these two. > > We need to think about scenario's on how to deal with these. At least, we have > to create a Qt materials box and other online materials. That means Qt can be > presented more easily at events only visited by the community. > > But more commercial events where we have companies involved, how do we > represent Qt there? If only one company is there, there is no way to guarantee > they represent Qt and thus they should not be there as the official Qt > project. But at many events, we can do a shared presence. Then, two or more > companies, with or without community volunteers, CAN represent Qt. We need to > lay down some ground rules for that and have materials etcetera. > > Creating that in advance is hard. We should just 'start'! Organize a 'simple' > community event like FOSDEM and a basic commercial event. With the first, we > can see how we can collaborate with community, with the second we can have > companies work together. The rules can be made up while we go and we can > document it then for the future. > > But it needs steering, who's gonna control this? There will be money involved: > we have to buy and distribute materials, for example. And later, have a travel > committee and things like that. Can the Qt Hosting foundation do this? Lars > will look into that. > > What is the Qt project in this, is it a meritocracy? Lars officially can step > in but he wants to not interfere. We need marketing maintainers... The > marketing team has a task here: become a moderator, planner, etcetera. We need > to get a list of events our partners (commercial and community) want to go to, > a reporting infrastructure, a way to disseminate money, things like that. > > I (jos) offered some help as I've set up a lot of these things in openSUSE, > building the ambassador program. We've got a travel committee, a way of > sending materials, planning and reporting, etcetera. > > > Social media discussion: > Several people now update our official social media channels. But there are > just a few people and we can do better. Growth has a downside: things can go > wrong and we should have a kind of policy for them. > Kalle will write a proposal of a Social Media account policy: > * for our official project accounts: > ** What is proper and what is not (Content has to be about Qt; no company- > specific promo; no more than 1 message/hour; etc) > * for the planet: what goes, what doesn't. > > > Have a lot of fun, > Jos_______________________________________________ > Marketing mailing list > Marketing at qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sivan at omniqueue.com Mon Nov 12 21:53:45 2012 From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:53:45 +0200 Subject: [Marketing] Notes In-Reply-To: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> References: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> Message-ID: Hey Jos, On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > We need to do more to promote Qt Project. With Nokia gone, dedicated 'just > promoting Qt' resources are much more limited. For one thing, we need to > build > up a program of going to events and promoting Qt. > > Yes, this was already felt. > pool our resources, we'd be there 5 times as big and we'd all profit from > it. > But that is not an easy thing, some rules are needed. > > Pooling would also allow more representation of the pure community (not company affiliated) which is important for health of the open source project. > There are two ways of doing events: bottom-up and top-down. As companies, > there is a number of events we need to be at, to talk to (potential) > customers. But there are also many events Qt needs to be at, more > community- > focused events. And there is overlap between these two. > > Yes, but that is also dependent on budget, which is, without Nokia, an issue? > We need to think about scenario's on how to deal with these. At least, we > have > to create a Qt materials box and other online materials. That means Qt can > be > presented more easily at events only visited by the community. > > +1 > But more commercial events where we have companies involved, how do we > represent Qt there? If only one company is there, there is no way to > guarantee > they represent Qt and thus they should not be there as the official Qt > project. But at many events, we can do a shared presence. Then, two or more > companies, with or without community volunteers, CAN represent Qt. We need > to > lay down some ground rules for that and have materials etcetera. > > +1 , with that we should always opt to have non company community, as FOSS interests can and should be communicated to user companies, IMHO. > Creating that in advance is hard. We should just 'start'! Organize a > 'simple' > community event like FOSDEM and a basic commercial event. With the first, > we > can see how we can collaborate with community, with the second we can have > companies work together. The rules can be made up while we go and we can > document it then for the future. > > I don't think there's needs to be more real life event to discuss working with the community, we should just scan up for future events and try to apply what you are plotting here. > But it needs steering, who's gonna control this? There will be money > involved: > we have to buy and distribute materials, for example. And later, have a > travel > committee and things like that. Can the Qt Hosting foundation do this? Lars > will look into that. > I'll gladly help, and already have quite some experience in that with organizing the last Qt Summit, volunteering for aKademy and MeeGo. I'm sure everyone here would do the same. > > What is the Qt project in this, is it a meritocracy? Lars officially can > step > in but he wants to not interfere. We need marketing maintainers... The > marketing team has a task here: become a moderator, planner, etcetera. We > need > to get a list of events our partners (commercial and community) want to go > to, > a reporting infrastructure, a way to disseminate money, things like that. > > These days it is all in the clouds, and for handling money, there are several tools and services that can make this a non issue (for example, [0]). > I (jos) offered some help as I've set up a lot of these things in openSUSE, > building the ambassador program. We've got a travel committee, a way of > sending materials, planning and reporting, etcetera. > > sounds great. > > Social media discussion: > Several people now update our official social media channels. But there are > just a few people and we can do better. Growth has a downside: things can > go > wrong and we should have a kind of policy for them. > Kalle will write a proposal of a Social Media account policy: > * for our official project accounts: > ** What is proper and what is not (Content has to be about Qt; no company- > specific promo; no more than 1 message/hour; etc) > * for the planet: what goes, what doesn't. > > Make sure you put this out for review and discussion , as you probably planned to :) > > Have a lot of fun, > Sounds like devdays are much fun! :) Thanks for this, -Sivan [0]: https://holvi.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markc at renta.net Tue Nov 13 04:28:42 2012 From: markc at renta.net (Mark Constable) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:28:42 +1000 Subject: [Marketing] Notes In-Reply-To: References: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> Message-ID: <50A1BE6A.5090005@renta.net> Quick comment as someone who will never get a chance to go to any ephemeral live conference event, ever, I would personally rather see any effort and expense put into online tutorials and howtos more akin to the Khan Academy. Better marketing bang for buck. From jos at opensuse.org Tue Nov 13 08:55:53 2012 From: jos at opensuse.org (Jos Poortvliet) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:55:53 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Notes In-Reply-To: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> References: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> Message-ID: <1902198.Cl2U0THZOS@linux-j6fp.site> On Monday, November 12, 2012 21:31:27 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > Heya marketeers, > > Quickly as I'm new here: I'm Jos Poortvliet, openSUSE Community manager and > I've been involved in KDE marketing for 10+ years. I participated in a > discussion today at the qtdevdays about marketing the Qt project and I made > some promises including sending the notes. I did write this out a bit to > make it easier to follow - no bullets for now. Hope it all makes sense. > > I was not there the whole meeting and I didn't take notes the whole time - > so this is incomplete. But it's something which, as they say, is better > than nothing :D > > ============= > We need to do more to promote Qt Project. With Nokia gone, dedicated 'just > promoting Qt' resources are much more limited. For one thing, we need to > build up a program of going to events and promoting Qt. > > The companies and communities around Qt, like Digia, KDAB, RIM, KDE and > others, can and should help with this. It is in their best interest. Right > now, if we go to conferences, 80% of the message is Qt for each of us... > We're at a conference 3-4 times, confusing the heck out of customers. If we > would pool our resources, we'd be there 5 times as big and we'd all profit > from it. But that is not an easy thing, some rules are needed. > > There are two ways of doing events: bottom-up and top-down. As companies, > there is a number of events we need to be at, to talk to (potential) > customers. But there are also many events Qt needs to be at, more community- > focused events. And there is overlap between these two. > > We need to think about scenario's on how to deal with these. At least, we > have to create a Qt materials box and other online materials. That means Qt > can be presented more easily at events only visited by the community. > > But more commercial events where we have companies involved, how do we > represent Qt there? If only one company is there, there is no way to > guarantee they represent Qt and thus they should not be there as the > official Qt project. But at many events, we can do a shared presence. Then, > two or more companies, with or without community volunteers, CAN represent > Qt. We need to lay down some ground rules for that and have materials > etcetera. > > Creating that in advance is hard. We should just 'start'! Organize a > 'simple' community event like FOSDEM and a basic commercial event. With the > first, we can see how we can collaborate with community, with the second we > can have companies work together. The rules can be made up while we go and > we can document it then for the future. Note that we did NOT yet pick a person who's gonna be yelled at if this doesn't happen. Nobody volunteered yet - so, anyone here who would be able and willing to organize a Qt booth at FOSDEM? It would require proposing it to the FOSDEM organization (quickly, the call for booths is open already) and possibly try to organize a devroom. Then we need people to staff the booth, pretty things for at the booth etcetera - but those things shouldn't be too hard to have. Cheers, Jos > But it needs steering, who's gonna control this? There will be money > involved: we have to buy and distribute materials, for example. And later, > have a travel committee and things like that. Can the Qt Hosting foundation > do this? Lars will look into that. > > What is the Qt project in this, is it a meritocracy? Lars officially can > step in but he wants to not interfere. We need marketing maintainers... The > marketing team has a task here: become a moderator, planner, etcetera. We > need to get a list of events our partners (commercial and community) want > to go to, a reporting infrastructure, a way to disseminate money, things > like that. > > I (jos) offered some help as I've set up a lot of these things in openSUSE, > building the ambassador program. We've got a travel committee, a way of > sending materials, planning and reporting, etcetera. > > > Social media discussion: > Several people now update our official social media channels. But there are > just a few people and we can do better. Growth has a downside: things can go > wrong and we should have a kind of policy for them. > Kalle will write a proposal of a Social Media account policy: > * for our official project accounts: > ** What is proper and what is not (Content has to be about Qt; no company- > specific promo; no more than 1 message/hour; etc) > * for the planet: what goes, what doesn't. > > > Have a lot of fun, > Jos -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jos at opensuse.org Tue Nov 13 09:07:25 2012 From: jos at opensuse.org (Jos Poortvliet) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:07:25 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Notes In-Reply-To: <50A1BE6A.5090005@renta.net> References: <3791430.RdTO9CQr6Y@linux-j6fp.site> <50A1BE6A.5090005@renta.net> Message-ID: <1458391.mfnRPqBJ4j@linux-j6fp.site> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:28:42 Mark Constable wrote: > Quick comment as someone who will never get a chance to go to any > ephemeral live conference event, ever, I would personally rather > see any effort and expense put into online tutorials and howtos > more akin to the Khan Academy. Better marketing bang for buck. The online presence is important - this was discussed too - see the social media notes. Luckily, these days, most events get their videos online without too many issues - that includes qtdevdays. Surely we should work on online materials and I'm sure help is welcome. But real life meetings are powerful as well and shouldn't be forgotten. Without them, you always miss out on the 'hallway track' and the hanging out in bars and restaurants, getting to know people. I'm sorry for those folks who can't join these events in person - but I also know there's fun to be had on the mailing lists, forums and especially IRC channels. Let's keep it that way. Also, I'll try to be less wordy next time :D hugs, Jos -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From sivan at omniqueue.com Wed Nov 14 14:26:33 2012 From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:26:33 +0200 Subject: [Marketing] FOSDEM 2012 Message-ID: Hi All, As I've request presence for the project in FOSDEM, I'd like to know if people would be interested in giving talks and showcasing demos specifically for latest Qt5 features and at the most 1 4.8 cool demo at the FOSDEM stand, if we're granted one. Let's keep the discussion on marketing@ , although I've CC'd dev for wider developer audience. Thanks, -- -Sivan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knut.yrvin at digia.com Mon Nov 26 19:13:41 2012 From: knut.yrvin at digia.com (Knut Yrvin) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:13:41 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] Dates for co-hosting QtCS at the KDE Akademy conference, 15-16 July 2013 In-Reply-To: <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> References: <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> Message-ID: <2694881.T92N7sCrti@qt-station> Hello :) As you already know KDE e.V has offered to co-host Qt Contributors' Summit (QtCS) under the KDE Akademy conference, July 13-19 in 2013. This at Public University of the Basque Country. I doesn't seems to be any strong arguments against co-hosting QtCS with KDE Akademy. The other question is timing. What gives most positive effect for the participants? Should the QtCS be held in the beginning of the week, at the end of the week, or before of after the KDE Akademy conference. KDE e.V's business manager Claudia Rauch and I had a workshop planning QtCS and KDE Akademy on Thursday and Friday last week. This was right after Qt Dev.Days in Berlin. One of the things was to decide dates. We considered four alternatives for QtCS: 1: in the week before the KDE Akademy conference 2: Monday-Tuesday at the KDE Akademy, right after the main KDE talks on Saturday and Sunday 3: Thursday-Friday at the end of the KDE Akademy 4: after the conference (There are an alternative 5, running QtCS Saturday and Sunday on top of the KDE talks. It's not an option) The four alternatives was given point regarding timing, local team resources, and the co-hosting effects. The following parameters was selected: -- Co-hosting effects which are beneficial for sharing ideas and good practices. -- The best practical offer to participate on both KDE Akademy talks and QtCS. -- Enough space to run talks and BoF's for all the participants. -- Work burden for the local team who are mostly volunteers. (The local team also help organize the KDE Akademy-es in the week before KDE Akademy). Running a point system with Max 1. Min 0 and 'no Max effect' to ½, we got this results: Alternatives: 1, 2, 3, 4 ---------- 0 1 ½ 0 - Co-hosting effects 0 1 ½ 0 - The best practical offer for participants 1 1 1 1 - Enough space (yes, it's enough space at the university) 0 1 ½ 0 - Work burden for local team (adding more days is a 0) ---------- 1 4 2½ 1 = Alternative #2 came out on top with 4 out of 4. ========== After discussing this back and forth at Qt Developer Days and at the workshop, checking with many key stakeholders: Alternative 2 for QtCS came up on top. Lars Knoll also suggested alternative 2 as the best on in a meeting with KDE e.V. board members. QtCS will be on Monday-Tuesday 15-16 July in 2013 right after the KDE conference talks. It's possibility to extend the QtCS to Wednesday 17 or running BoF's to the end of the KDE Akademy conference. I've copied most of the wiki pages from the QtCS in 2012 to 2013 for the planning process: http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2013/wiki Best regards Knut Yrvin -- Open Source Community Manager - Digia, Qt Email: knut.yrvin at digia.com - Mobile: + 47 934 79 561 Visit us on: http://qt.digia.com From sivan at omniqueue.com Tue Nov 27 05:20:11 2012 From: sivan at omniqueue.com (Sivan Greenberg) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:20:11 +0200 Subject: [Marketing] Dates for co-hosting QtCS at the KDE Akademy conference, 15-16 July 2013 In-Reply-To: <2694881.T92N7sCrti@qt-station> References: <1352406035.2540.5.camel@brick.WAG160N> <2B1920B6F2853947A3B5B1FC476E2D4063CCE0@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <2694881.T92N7sCrti@qt-station> Message-ID: Hi Knut, Without getting too much into the details of the pros and cons of the different options, and apologies if this is already the best option, to have the summit during the BoF or more informal time of aKademy? That way people keen on volunteering for both events (as session chairs, registration, etc). -Sivan On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Knut Yrvin wrote: > Hello :) > > As you already know KDE e.V has offered to co-host Qt Contributors' Summit > (QtCS) under the KDE Akademy conference, July 13-19 in 2013. This at Public > University of the Basque Country. > > I doesn't seems to be any strong arguments against co-hosting QtCS with KDE > Akademy. > > The other question is timing. What gives most positive effect for the > participants? Should the QtCS be held in the beginning of the week, at the > end > of the week, or before of after the KDE Akademy conference. > > KDE e.V's business manager Claudia Rauch and I had a workshop planning QtCS > and KDE Akademy on Thursday and Friday last week. This was right after Qt > Dev.Days in Berlin. One of the things was to decide dates. We considered > four > alternatives for QtCS: > > 1: in the week before the KDE Akademy conference > 2: Monday-Tuesday at the KDE Akademy, right after the main KDE talks > on Saturday and Sunday > 3: Thursday-Friday at the end of the KDE Akademy > 4: after the conference > (There are an alternative 5, running QtCS Saturday > and Sunday on top of the KDE talks. It's not an option) > > The four alternatives was given point regarding timing, local team > resources, > and the co-hosting effects. The following parameters was selected: > > -- Co-hosting effects which are beneficial for sharing ideas and good > practices. > -- The best practical offer to participate on both KDE Akademy talks and > QtCS. > -- Enough space to run talks and BoF's for all the participants. > -- Work burden for the local team who are mostly volunteers. (The local > team > also help organize the KDE Akademy-es in the week before KDE Akademy). > > Running a point system with Max 1. Min 0 and 'no Max effect' to ½, we got > this > results: > > Alternatives: > 1, 2, 3, 4 > ---------- > 0 1 ½ 0 - Co-hosting effects > 0 1 ½ 0 - The best practical offer for participants > 1 1 1 1 - Enough space (yes, it's enough space at the university) > 0 1 ½ 0 - Work burden for local team (adding more days is a 0) > ---------- > 1 4 2½ 1 = Alternative #2 came out on top with 4 out of 4. > ========== > > After discussing this back and forth at Qt Developer Days and at the > workshop, > checking with many key stakeholders: Alternative 2 for QtCS came up on top. > Lars Knoll also suggested alternative 2 as the best on in a meeting with > KDE > e.V. board members. > > QtCS will be on Monday-Tuesday 15-16 July in 2013 right after the KDE > conference talks. It's possibility to extend the QtCS to Wednesday 17 or > running BoF's to the end of the KDE Akademy conference. > > I've copied most of the wiki pages from the QtCS in 2012 to 2013 for the > planning process: > http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2013/wiki > > Best regards > > Knut Yrvin > -- > Open Source Community Manager - Digia, Qt > Email: knut.yrvin at digia.com - Mobile: + 47 934 79 561 > Visit us on: http://qt.digia.com > > _______________________________________________ > Marketing mailing list > Marketing at qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > -- -Sivan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: