[PySide] Web site transfer

Mon Apr 30 21:34:02 CEST 2012

Are we not able to just migrate all of the old website content onto the
main Qt website in the longer term? Hosting a HTTP 301 'moved
permanently'-issuing website to keep old links alive indefinitely would be
very cheap.

On 30 April 2012 18:39, Hugo Parente Lima <hugo.lima at openbossa.org> wrote:

> On Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30:46 AM Srini Kommoori wrote:
> > I would like to propose S3/github for website hosting. It is pretty easy
> to
> > setup and we can automate to push the code/html pages very easily.
>
> I agree, github for website hosting.
> About the tarballs, we have tags on git for each release, so IMO tarballs
> are
> just another way of offer the same information and we can discard if it's
> causing troubles.
>
> > Here is my preferred service list:
> > S3/github for all static pages.
> > Blog - Blogger/Tumblr with multi user submits.
> > Wiki -  [No change] Seems like already integrated with Qt main site.
> > Code - [No change] gitorious
> >
> > I can help and sponsor for the expenses(if any) related to the migration.
> >
> > thanks,
> > -Srini
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Erik Janssens
> >
> > <Erik.Janssens at conceptive.be>wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We have a professional Weebly account,
> > > (http://www.weebly.com/) and can offer a site account for
> > > this purpose.
> > >
> > > A Weebly site can host web pages + images + forms.  But it's
> > > not suited to offer source or binary packages for download.
> > >
> > > The downside of using Weebly is that the site should be rebuild
> > > from scratch, something I estimate to be a couple of hours work
> > > for someone experienced with CSS, html.
> > >
> > > The upside being that it's very easy to maintain.
> > >
> > > Just let me know if this would be interesting...
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 14:45 +0300, Matti Airas wrote:
> > > > Hi list,
> > > >
> > > > There's one final thing in the PySide migration to Qt add-on: the
> > > > website. I've been trying to have the migration arranged, but
> progress
> > > > has been very slow. Also, May 3 is my last work-day at Nokia, so that
> > > > complicates things further.
> > > >
> > > > PySide is currently hosted at a Virtual Machine provided by Nokia IT,
> > > > which has made it easy because there have not been any fees or
> bandwidth
> > > > quotas (and the connectivity has been quite excellent).
> Unfortunately,
> > > > that VM is leased only until end of June, so arrangements need to be
> > > > made pretty soon.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, Qt Project is unwilling to provide a virtual machine
> for
> > > > PySide, and therefore a direct migration of the VM is not feasible.
> They
> > > > have proposed that they can host the static content (binaries,
> > > > documentation & doc packages) which account for vast majority of the
> > > > traffic anyway. Then, the current WordPress site contents (which
> isn't
> > > > much any longer, anyway) could be moved to the wiki, with a
> possibility
> > > > to have a static landing page as the home page. The news blog would
> then
> > > > need to be migrated to any free 3rd-party blogging platform such as
> > > > wordpress.com. This is probably doable and something that the
> project
> > > > could live with, but it does require additional effort and decrease
> the
> > > > level of service somewhat, both for the administrators (no access to
> WP
> > > > authoring tools) and for the end-users (URLs for binaries and docs
> > > > change, blog aggregation needs to be updated). In the long term, this
> > > > would be the approach requiring the least amount of maintenance.
> > > >
> > > > Another alternative which could be feasible is to have a VM elsewhere
> > > > and Qt Project would just point the DNS there. The VM requirements
> are
> > > > not huge: the current VM is a single-core one Xeon 2.5 GHz with 2 GB
> of
> > > > allocated memory and 40 GB of disk space. However, the site generates
> > > > quite some traffic - in April, 120 GB, and the number has been
> > > > increasing at a steady pace. Also, having a separate VM would
> require a
> > > > dedicated admin who would be willing to maintain the VM, take
> backups,
> > >
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > > I would like to hear your opinions on this one. In the first option,
> the
> > > > up front work and changes would be bigger but the long-term effort
> > > > lower, and no external costs would be incurred. In the latter option,
> > > > the migration would be less painful but having the VM would require
> more
> > > > maintenance in the future, and recurring payments would occur.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I'd like to call for volunteers to help with the migration and
> the
> > > > future maintenance. As said, my work obligation at Nokia is ending
> and
> > > > while I'm not vanishing altogether, it'd be helpful if someone else
> > > > could take the lead. Srini, you volunteered for the webmaster and
> > > > wikimaster duties in February - although this might not be what you
> had
> > > > in mind, would you still be interested?
> > > >
> > > > Also, if a separate VM is desired, a sponsor is needed for that. I
> > > > wonder if any companies would be interested in providing that, for a
> > > > modest logo or banner visibility on the web site? A basic 3rd-party
> VM
> > > > with that amount of traffic would cost some 40-50 EUR/USD a month.
> Not a
> > > > huge sum, but I wouldn't feel happy paying it out of my own pocket,
> > > > especially with the steadily increasing traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Matti Airas
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