[PySide] Resurrecting PySide

David Brandse david at wireplant.com
Wed Mar 20 16:46:24 CET 2013 

One of the things I've noticed about people posting the "PySide is dead"
threads seems to be that they will ask a question either here or in IRC and
wait a few days for an answer, in the event that they don't get an answer
the immediate response seems to be that the project is dead. Perhaps one of
the areas that should be focused on is helping out users on the mailing
list with problems.
 - David


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, lndn <lndndev at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, that email thread and the link I posted are one and the same thing.
>  I haven't gone through the tutorial to check for errors yet, but I used
> the thread to update the tutorial with useful info.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/pyside@qt-project.org/msg00976.html
> http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide_Shiboken_Tutorial
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Long Duong
> UC Irvine School of Medicine
> long at uci.edu
> Cell:  949-872-1052
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> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Sébastien Sablé <
> sable at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> I am talking about the one mentioned in this email thread:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pyside@qt-project.org/msg00976.html
>>
>> It is close to what is in the wiki, but providing the actual full project
>> and the build steps really helps a lot.
>>
>> Your wiki page is a nice start to get the environment; at least it goes
>> into the right direction, great!
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/19 lndn <lndndev at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Are you talking about Roman's tutorial right here:
>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide_Shiboken_Tutorial
>>>
>>> If you have time to write the step-by-step tutorial, that would be
>>> phenomenal.  I also started doing something similar, but it's a getting
>>> started guide for new developers.  Check it out here:
>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide_Development_Getting_Started.  Just
>>> started yesterday, so its far from done.
>>>
>>> Thanks for helping out, we need more people to contribute!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Sébastien Sablé <
>>> sable at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for help!
>>>> If you have time, it would be nice to put online the tutorial that
>>>> Roman posted a few weeks ago.
>>>> That is what got me started binding my own library.
>>>>
>>>> I also did a bit of cleanup in the documentation a couple weeks ago
>>>> (fixing and moving to the right page the paths to git repositories, and
>>>> explaining that you need to go through gerrit to submit code for PySide).
>>>> If I can find some time, I will take a look at what you did and try to
>>>> help. I recently started to contribute to the project, so the limitations
>>>> of the doc are still fresh in my mind.
>>>> I would like to build a step by step tutorial on how to setup a linux
>>>> environment to checkout the git sources for pyside, build it, run the unit
>>>> tests, add some more tests, run a test in the debugger to fix it. This
>>>> could help to get more developers to contribute to the project rather than
>>>> just opening tickets.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Sébastien
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/19 lndn <lndndev at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>> Thanks for the reply!
>>>>>
>>>>> The PyPI link is now on:
>>>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Get-PySide
>>>>>
>>>>> The prebuilt windows packages link is now on:
>>>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide_Binaries_Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If later I see other pages that require these links, I'll update it at
>>>>> that time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Roman Lacko <backup.rlacko at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/19 lndn <lndndev at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just spent the weekend organizing some of the pyside wiki pages (
>>>>>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide) and making small updates to the
>>>>>>> content here and there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still needs a lot of work, but if someone can take a look and tell
>>>>>>> me what you think so far, I can start focusing on important areas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for doing this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great to put somewhere information about the PyPI page
>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>> It contains the installation instructions (for windows and linux) and
>>>>>> full source code of PySide, Shiboken, PySideTool, examples and build
>>>>>> scripts bundled in standard distutils package. Also here is the downloads
>>>>>> page for prebuild windows packages and source budles [2]. I should put the
>>>>>> information on wiki myself but never had time to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/PySide
>>>>>> [2] http://releases.qt-project.org/pyside/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Stephan Deibel <
>>>>>>> sdeibel at wingware.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lndn wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the recent scary "PySide is Dead" emails really prompted me to
>>>>>>>>> think about what we can do to improve the situation.  Not being familiar
>>>>>>>>> with the PySide/Shiboken internals, I thought it would be a good idea to
>>>>>>>>> start by cleaning up the wiki pages on qt-project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, as I combed through these pages, I noticed that many of
>>>>>>>>> the links were broken and pointing to old pyside.org <
>>>>>>>>> http://pyside.org> pages that no longer exist and the content
>>>>>>>>> contains outdated and incomplete information.  What is really needed is a
>>>>>>>>> major overhaul in updating the content.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So what's the official word on a massive re-organizing of these
>>>>>>>>> pages?  Can I just take the initiative and do it?  I'd like to start off by
>>>>>>>>> just putting the wiki pages in some order so things are easy to find and
>>>>>>>>> then later go through the content and update the content one page at a
>>>>>>>>> time.  My goal is just to help users and developers easily navigate to the
>>>>>>>>> pages they need.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts or people interested in helping would be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This would be very helpful!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have in the past found some of the missing pages on archive.org.
>>>>>>>>  You can paste urls there in the WayBackMachine box and see dated archives
>>>>>>>> of the page.  It would be great to put back some of that lost content
>>>>>>>> (which I think was lost in the Nokia -> Digia transition).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For outdated docs, it seems best to keep them somewhere (an archive
>>>>>>>> area?) or clearly label them, rather than removing them for now.  I suspect
>>>>>>>> some of these may be helpful to people trying to understand and move PySide
>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for offering to do this!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Stephan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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