[Qt-creator] Qt Creator flat style UI design + new Light theme

[Michael Jackson]

Just my 2 cents.
  I would like a way to make the scrollbar "handles" have more contrast to the scrollbar area itself. On  a large screen/large resolution (27" 2560x1440 or 2560x1600) it is difficult to find the scroll handle because the handle is gray and the scroll areas is slightly darker gray. Is there a style setting I can turn it blue or red or orange or what ever? 

 Alternatively if you have ever used "Sublime Text" that app has an "Over view" are along the right side that shows a very small rendering of the entire text file and has several interactions with that area that make scrolling around large text files very easy.

And my vote is against a flat style. It adds nothing to usability and only makes it harder for the user to figure things out. There are more glaring user interaction issues that need to be fixed first.

Thanks
Mike Jackson

On Feb 15, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Ariel Molina <ariel at edis.mx> wrote:

> I know it is difficult to move over UI styles, what worked in the past seems more safe that what's trendy. Some remarks are very valid and true, for example: "interactive UI elements should hint they are interactive", I would say it is a MUST, more than a should.
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> But I think flat is just another cosmetic trend that will come and stay for a long time, just as those glossy round buttons Aqua-style brought back then. They looked modern and cool by the time, ironically replacing those mostly flat buttons. 
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> Now we have beautiful screens with rich colors representation and microscopic pixels, almost like paper. So going back to  beautiful Typography and simple iconography seems possible.
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> I still vote in favor, move on, or we will still be using gradients and look antique in 2020, but please do not forget that a flat UI still must preserve interaction hints, a way to tint it in order to display deactivated states and alerts, a way to enhance hyperlinks on text and to make things easy to remember and to visualize. Flat is a hard thing to do right, and specially at the first shot.
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> OTOH, there are dozens if not hundreds of hurting usability bugs still in QtC (ironically on the UI parts, like QtC Designer), and replacing the UI will add some more and some discomfort in the user base. I know it is cool to be working on new stuff, but making old stuff work as it should is even better.
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> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Jason H <jhihn at gmx.com> wrote:
> I abhore all flat style. 
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> It kills the UI paradigm. Things should hint that they are interactive elements. Flat style, at best, gives a shadow. The previous generation has a 3d gloss and shading to hint at a interactive element. You don't percieve flat with shadow as easily as gloss and shading. 
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> For simple mobile apps with only a few interactive UI elements this is tolerable. For something like Creator, there is a ton of UI, and if flattened usability will suffer. Also What about group boxes? Impossibe to do in flat style. 
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> The only sin of curved buttons was they got too glossy at times. Or too many too-glossy elements per view. 
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> I don't expect this Flat style to exist for long. It's go the way of the hamburger menu which is already on the way out. 
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> Flat Style is just that. A style decision, not a usability one. Who is pushing Flat? Microsoft. Why? It was the Windows Phone style, a style to differentiate itself from iOS and Android. It's not made it off usability. Who buys WP devices? Nobody. 
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> Android's Material Design philosophy isn't any better. The main difference is MD wants layered flat. So background backlayer below a card, with a UI per card, which is then layered itself. It's a minor improvement to flat. 
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> My vote is no. 
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> de Sousa Diana <diana.desousa at theqtcompany.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What do you think about the idea of updating the Qt Creator GUI with a more contemporary flat style design, simplifying and unifying all UI icons? And adding a Light theme in addition to the current Default and Dark themes?
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> I have published to Qt Blog examples of what these new designs could look like. They are an early stage concept, so it would be great to get useful feedback from the community to take this forward! Please take a look at them at:
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> http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/02/09/qt-creator-flat-style-ui-design-new-light-theme/
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> Cheers,
> Diana
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