[Qt-creator] [Development] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

[Adam Treat]

+1 to playground

This is open source... by all means experiment! As long as no laws are being broken and no licenses violated, then if their is an itch... scratch it!

The person who codes decides. We can all judge the results by looking at the code. Useless to have stop energy about a plug-in that does not yet exist. It could be great or it could be a lousy failure, but opening up a playgrounds repo costs no one anything.

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From: Development <development-bounces+adam.treat=qt.io at qt-project.org> on behalf of Simon Hausmann <Simon.Hausmann at qt.io>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:00:33 AM
To: Pasi Keränen; Tino Pyssysalo; Tuukka Turunen; qt-creator at qt-project.org; development at qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator


Hi,


Given that no plan has been presented about how this is intended to work in terms of backend or API scope, I stand with my -1 for a qt/ or qt-creator/ repo. If there exists no plan yet but the desire to experiment, then I'm with Pasi here and would suggest a repository in the playground scope. I think either analytics or telemetry make sense to have in the name. Firebase for example uses the term analytics in their API and Mozilla uses the term telemetry for the service of collecting performance and usage info for Firefox.



Simon

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From: Pasi Keränen
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:53:33 AM
To: Maurice Kalinowski; Tino Pyssysalo; Simon Hausmann; Tuukka Turunen; qt-creator at qt-project.org; development at qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator


Hi,



Repos can be relocated to new homes if really needed, but I think it’s fair to say more generic location is definitely preferred from Qt 3D Studio point of view.



To make this even easier I’d even start with a playground repo if nothing else can be found. Qt has always been (despite our vocal and sometimes a bit harsh dialogue) inclusive, so it should be fine to go and experiment with all things UI related. Just to see if something is worth the effort or not.



Regards,

Pasi



From: Development <development-bounces+pasi.keranen=qt.io at qt-project.org> on behalf of Maurice Kalinowski <Maurice.Kalinowski at qt.io>
Date: Friday, 23 February 2018 at 9.33
To: Tino Pyssysalo <tino.pyssysalo at qt.io>, Simon Hausmann <Simon.Hausmann at qt.io>, Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turunen at qt.io>, "qt-creator at qt-project.org" <qt-creator at qt-project.org>, "development at qt-project.org" <development at qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator



“The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for analytics”



If that is the case, then qt-creator/telemetry is the wrong repository to ask for. If you are aiming at something generic, then it should be qt/



Maurice



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An: Simon Hausmann <Simon.Hausmann at qt.io>; Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turunen at qt.io>; qt-creator at qt-project.org; development at qt-project.org
Betreff: Re: [Qt-creator] [Development] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator



Hi,



The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for analytics. The backend can be any storage and The Qt Company does not provide that.



We plan to use the same backend, which we already use in online installers to collect statistics about installations. At least in case of Qt Creator, the plan is to make some analysis results available for the community. Obviously, we do not do that for our commercial tooling.



Analytics is opt-in and disabled by default in Qt Creator. We plan to ask user in the installer, if the user wish to participate in Qt UX improvement. If the answers is no, the analytics plugin is never installed.  When the creator is started for the first time, it will show a dialog, consisting a list of collected data items and an option to enable/disable the plugin. There will be a new output pane, which shows collected data, conversions methods, if any used, and transmitted data to the user.

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Tino





On 22/02/2018, 15.26, "Simon Hausmann" <Simon.Hausmann at qt.io<mailto:Simon.Hausmann at qt.io>> wrote:



Hi,



Can you provide a bit more information about how this plugin / frontend fits into the Qt project? Where is the collected data sent to and how is it accessible to the community?



(-1 from me, as I think this needs to be clarified)



Simon

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Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator





Hi,



+1 for creating the repo, but what about qt/qtanalytics as a name? This item could be useful also for other applications.



Yours,



                             Tuukka



From: Qt-creator <qt-creator-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt.io at qt-project.org<mailto:qt-creator-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt.io at qt-project.org>> on behalf of Tino Pyssysalo <tino.pyssysalo at qt.io<mailto:tino.pyssysalo at qt.io>>
Date: Thursday, 22 February 2018 at 13.04
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Subject: [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator



Description:



Telemetry plugin (frontend) to collect usage data from Qt Creator to help improving Qt, Qt features, and Qt tools.

Non-personal data items, such as duration the user spent in design mode, will be collected in a way, which is completely transparent to the user.



Responsible: Tino Pyssysalo



Repository: qt-creator/plugin-telemetry





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