[Qt-creator] Branches side-panel
André Hartmann
aha_1980 at gmx.de
Sat Jul 7 13:45:32 CEST 2018
Hi all,
first apologize for breaking the thread, I only had a "digest mail
account" till now.
Thanks Orgad for bringing this topic up. I hoped it would raise more
interest though...
For my motivation: I dislike the Git branches dialog, as it always gets
in the way. Usually, when working with branches you need to see diffs or
resolve conflicts, so you need the editor windows too. As we now have
the left and right side panel, I thought it would be a good idea to move
this dialog to these panels.
The branches window itself is very useful as it allows *a lot* of Git
operations to be done, so I think having it visible always is a good
option. I'd move it to the right side panel, so it disappers while
debugging (you don't need it during debugging).
I don't use the programs mentioned by Michael, but I think we get a lot
closes to them with this panel.
The only questions that arises now is: Should it already get a wider
scope, i.e. should it not only contain the branches window but also the
changed files list, a "fast commit" window, etc.?
What do you think?
One more note: The side panels are a bit more mouse-centric, as many
options are in context menus. That is no big problem for me (and I'm
already using the keyboard very much!), but may hurt others. Any opinion
on this?
A compromise would even be, if the side panels could be un-docked and
docked again. But I think we don't have the needed infrastructure for now.
Thanks for reading this long mail. I'm awaiting your opinions :)
Regards,
André
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> From: Michael Jackson <mike.jackson at bluequartz.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] Branches side-panel
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> <dreaming>I would love to see a "workspace" that basically incorporates the functionality of something like SourceTree or GitKraken into QtCreator.</dreaming> I don't actually know what QtCreator has to offer by way of Git functionality because those 2 applications are that good.
>
> --
> Mike Jackson
>
> ?On 7/4/18, 9:10 AM, "Qt-creator on behalf of Mathias Hasselmann" <qt-creator-bounces+mike.jackson=bluequartz.net at qt-project.org on behalf of mathias at taschenorakel.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Orgad,
>
> I'd totally love to see (much) better git integration in QtCreator and
> replacing the branches dialog would with a panel be a great start for a
> more natural git experience in QtCreator. I'd really love to see such
> change!
>
> Thanks,
> Mathias
>
> Am 02.07.2018 um 19:49 schrieb Orgad Shaneh:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is a pending change
> > <https://codereview.qt-project.org/217408> by Andr? Hartmann that
> > introduces a Branches side-panel for Git.
> >
> > The current dialog is not modal, which I find a bit confusing, and it
> > has many buttons with dynamic enable/disable state. It also hides the
> > main window when open.
> >
> > Before we proceed with it, I'd like to hear your opinions:
> >
> > * Do you like it as a panel?
> > * Do you prefer the panel or the current dialog?
> > * How about removing the dialog and replacing it by the panel?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Orgad
> >
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> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:32:40 -0400
> From: Michael Jackson <mike.jackson at bluequartz.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
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> Ok, Good suggestion. I went back and for the QtC 4.6 test the Clang code model was turned off. So I went back and tried again. The Syntax highlighting took about 5 seconds for the particular file that I am using as my benchmark. More Importantly the drop down was populated with the methods of the class in about 2 seconds which is reasonable. At least I can start navigating quickly. By the time I find the method I am interested in, the syntax highlighting is kicking in. With QtC 4.7 it is a different story. The function drop down appears at the same time as I get the highlighting which is about 10 seconds based on my screen captures. Of course I also get the full syntax highlighting at that point also BUT not I have to wait that entire time. I guess I would rather have the function drop down get populated first, then the syntax highlighting/code completion if that takes longer? Of course I could argue it both ways. I got used to the way that Qt4.5 and 4.6 did it so now having
> to wait breaks the cadence of opening a file and getting right to work on it.
>
>
>
> My system is macOS 10.13.x on a 2013 15? MacBook Pro. I sure hope that Xcode?s libClang is not getting in the way. I would hope that the one from QtC is used. Not sure how I would check that.
>
>
>
> I can do some side by side screen recordings showing the differences on my system anyone is interested.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mike Jackson
>
>
>
> On 7/4/18, 3:33 PM, "Ivan Donchevskii" <ivan.donchevskii at qt.io> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi!
> If the initial parsing time is absolutely crucial for you you can turn ClangCodeModel plugin off (it's turned on be default since 4.7). ClangCodeModel provides more precise results but takes longer to parse files. We did some work to make it faster but the most recent part of it was mostly about code completion.
>
> Also it's important that you use our prebuilt libclang shipped with Qt Creator installer but not the one in your system because it might provide the slowdown.
>
>
>
> Hope that my answer helps you
>
> Kind regards
> Ivan
>
> From: Qt-creator <qt-creator-bounces+ivan.donchevskii=qt.io at qt-project.org> on behalf of Michael Jackson <mike.jackson at bluequartz.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 6:10:08 PM
> To: qt-creator at qt-project.org
> Subject: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
>
>
>
> Just wanted to throw some feedback while I use the 4.7 Betas and RCs on my macOS systems. For the most part I like what I am seeing but there currently is an issue that is really starting to get in the way. The speed at which a C++ file is parsed so that all the syntax highlighting and coloring becomes available is taking way too long. With QtCreator 4.5 and 4.6 I would open a file and only a second at most would pass and the method drop downs would be populated and I could start navigating. With the 4.7 series (latest I pulled was from July 4th) it takes 10 seconds to get the syntax highlighting and navigating. (I did a side-by-side comparison with a screen recording to verify the times).
> I know that QtCreator is still in the RC mode and still being developed but that wait times are making navigating a real issue. My question: Are there still optimizations still being worked on for the final release? I know from a previous post that the code model and clang-tidy were thrown onto separate threads for good reasons but something else is happening to slow down that initial parse/navigation stage.
>
> Again, thank you for the wonderful IDE that I use and rely on every day. I don't think I could develop C++ codes on macOS without it.
>
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>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 04:32, Michael Jackson <mike.jackson at bluequartz.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, Good suggestion. I went back and for the QtC 4.6 test the Clang code model was turned off. So I went back and tried again. The Syntax highlighting took about 5 seconds for the particular file that I am using as my benchmark. More Importantly the drop down was populated with the methods of the class in about 2 seconds which is reasonable. At least I can start navigating quickly. By the time I find the method I am interested in, the syntax highlighting is kicking in. With QtC 4.7 it is a different story. The function drop down appears at the same time as I get the highlighting which is about 10 seconds based on my screen captures. Of course I also get the full syntax highlighting at that point also BUT not I have to wait that entire time. I guess I would rather have the function drop down get populated first, then the syntax highlighting/code completion if that takes longer? Of course I could argue it both ways. I got used to the way that Qt4.5 and 4.6 did it so now havin
> g to wait breaks the cadence of opening a file and getting right to work on it.
>>
>> My system is macOS 10.13.x on a 2013 15? MacBook Pro. I sure hope that Xcode?s libClang is not getting in the way. I would hope that the one from QtC is used. Not sure how I would check that.
>
> I doubt that some other libclang gets in the way, but to be sure you can check in Activity Monitor:
>
> - find and select the Qt Creator process
> - click the info tool button
> - select ?Open Files and Ports?
> - search for libclang and check the path
>
> Br, Eike
>
>>
>> I can do some side by side screen recordings showing the differences on my system anyone is interested.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Jackson
>>
>> On 7/4/18, 3:33 PM, "Ivan Donchevskii" <ivan.donchevskii at qt.io> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>> If the initial parsing time is absolutely crucial for you you can turn ClangCodeModel plugin off (it's turned on be default since 4.7). ClangCodeModel provides more precise results but takes longer to parse files. We did some work to make it faster but the most recent part of it was mostly about code completion.
>>
>> Also it's important that you use our prebuilt libclang shipped with Qt Creator installer but not the one in your system because it might provide the slowdown.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope that my answer helps you
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Ivan
>>
>> From: Qt-creator <qt-creator-bounces+ivan.donchevskii=qt.io at qt-project.org> on behalf of Michael Jackson <mike.jackson at bluequartz.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 6:10:08 PM
>> To: qt-creator at qt-project.org
>> Subject: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
>>
>> Just wanted to throw some feedback while I use the 4.7 Betas and RCs on my macOS systems. For the most part I like what I am seeing but there currently is an issue that is really starting to get in the way. The speed at which a C++ file is parsed so that all the syntax highlighting and coloring becomes available is taking way too long. With QtCreator 4.5 and 4.6 I would open a file and only a second at most would pass and the method drop downs would be populated and I could start navigating. With the 4.7 series (latest I pulled was from July 4th) it takes 10 seconds to get the syntax highlighting and navigating. (I did a side-by-side comparison with a screen recording to verify the times).
>> I know that QtCreator is still in the RC mode and still being developed but that wait times are making navigating a real issue. My question: Are there still optimizations still being worked on for the final release? I know from a previous post that the code model and clang-tidy were thrown onto separate threads for good reasons but something else is happening to slow down that initial parse/navigation stage.
>>
>> Again, thank you for the wonderful IDE that I use and rely on every day. I don't think I could develop C++ codes on macOS without it.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Jackson | Owner, President
>> BlueQuartz Software
>> [e] mike.jackson at bluequartz.net
>> [w] www.bluequartz.net
>>
>>
>>
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