[Qt-interest] Qt future ...

Wed Apr 27 16:12:42 CEST 2011

Qt has enough going for it that it will be around a long time.

However I share concern that in many areas Qt is "almost there" and Elop's vote 
of no confidence is stressful.

There are a couple things that I'd like to see committed to for 4.8. 
Qt proper: iPhone and Android ports
Declarative: Qt3D
Mobility: new devices (NFC, etc) 

The phone ports and Qt3d open Qt to new audiences, and should be priority 1. 
With those in hand, Qt will take on a life of its own and be assured to survive 
anything. (More so than it already will because of Crossplatform and KDE) 

The biggest draw back to Qt (other than C++) is lack of SOAP.

----- Original Message ----
From: BRM <bm_witness at yahoo.com>
To: qt-interest <qt-interest at trolltech.com>
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 9:58:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Qt future ...

Can't speak for Nokia/etc as I'm of no-relation there, but from my 
perspective...

As an aside, if you want to best help the future of Qt, the best way to do that 
is probably to keep investing in it and showing strong support for it 
up-and-until Nokia says they are shutting it down, but then you always have the 
option to use whatever gets set up to support KDE through KDE's Qt agreement 
(see archives for the links).

So instead of gossiping, or trying to hedge your best just stick to your guns 
and deliver good products. The more that do that, the better the future for Qt - 

even if it just forces Nokia to sell it off.

And yes, I develop with Qt every day, and while I don't like the situation with 
Nokia I'm not letting it drive the business concerns. It's just not worth it.

$0.02

Ben

----- Original Message ----
> From: QtNext <qtnext at gmail.com>
> To: Thiago Macieira <thiago at kde.org>
> Cc: qt-interest at qt.nokia.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 8:21:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Qt future ...
> 
> thanks Thiago for sharing your point of view ... I suppose you have something  

>else to do to write that ... but for us it's quite difficult to see if invest  
>time in working with Qt is always a good things to do and we are always trying  

>to find if there is an existing business model for Nokia, and so a future for  
>Qt... one more time, I don't wants to start a troll  ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 27 avr. 2011 à 14:10, Thiago Macieira a écrit  :
> 
> > Em Wednesday, 27 de April de 2011, às 13:40:44, Arnold Krille  escreveu:
> >> On Wednesday 27 April 2011 12:48:22 Thiago Macieira  wrote:
> >>> Em Wednesday, 27 de April de 2011, às 12:29:02, QtNext  escreveu:
> >>>> I don't wants to restart the big thread from March  after the bad
> >>>> news
> >>>> ...  But just  wants to know if some good news (Thiago says that we
> >>>>  don't
> >>> 
> >>>> know all about that ...) are coming  for Qt :
> >>> I'm not going to discuss this with an anonymous  person.
> >> 
> >> Oh please! Grow up already!
> >> 
> >> He is not trolling, just asking questions. Question any one  developing 
with
> >> Qt for a living (with or without a commercial  license) is asking in the
> >> last months. And four weeks after the big  announcements, we are still left
> >> with very vague encouragements  only.
> >> If you only want a "name" connected with these questions, use  mine...
> > 
> > Ok, I can answer you. But what's the question? I can  simply rehash what 
>should 
>
> > be already known to everyone:
> > 
> > I can't divulge any details that aren't public yet. 
> > 
> >  The same future for Qt inside Nokia that I talked about two months ago is 
> > still very much true and the details are still very much secret. 
> > 
> > Qt developers are still here, still doing what they were doing  in January 
>(ok, 
>
> > we're trying to do a little less Symbian). No one has  been laid off. There 
>have 
>
> > been a lot of blogs on technical material on  labs, showing we're still 
>working 
>
> > on new features.
> > 
> > The  Android port is going on just fine. We're happy with it and we're 
>helping 
>
> > as much as we can under the circumstances. If you try to install a  Qt-based 

> > Android application after you install Ministro, it goes and  downloads Qt 
>just 
>
> > fine and quickly (it's even faster than on older  Nokia phones that ship 
>without 
>
> > Qt).
> > 
> > Qt is not getting  ported to WP7. Even if it did get ported, you don't get a 

> > C++ compiler  for WP7 from Microsoft, so what would be the point?
> > 
> > Qt 4.7 is  coming to Symbian. I think there were some announcements.
> > 
> > Qt  4.8 is branched, modularisation is landing to the master branch.
> > 
> > Intel is still investing in MeeGo and still using Qt. If you want more 
> > details, you'll need to contact someone from Intel.
> > 
> >  The Nokia MeeGo device is going to be released but for obvious reasons that 

> > should be apparent to everyone, I won't be telling you when. I've been  using 
>
>
> > it in the office for some time now, though...
> > 
> >  The MeeGo Conference in San Francisco has an impressive set of talks, 
> >  including several from Trolls. I'll be there talking about Open  
Governance.
> > 
> > And on that subject, Open Governance is still going  on strong. The servers 
>are 
>
> > being set up as we speak.
> > 
> >  -- 
> > Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
> >  Senior Product Manager - Nokia,  Qt Development Frameworks
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