[Qt-interest] Many have not aware about this letter, Its for all who relies on Nokia
qt next
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Fri Feb 11 19:29:18 CET 2011
very sad day !!!!
Nokia should drop Elop instead of Qt, Symbian and Meego...
No communication about Qt, it's not acceptable ... pushing people to develop
using Qt for symbian and Meego and ... now trash Symbian and Meego ... and
not a single words about Qt Futur ...
Beurk :(
2011/2/11 Karl Ruetz <karl.ruetz at sototech.com>
> You left Ivory Coast and chocolate out of the mix.
> If this is indeed the beginning of the end for QT (especially on the
> Desktop) then this is a sad day indeed.
>
> Karl
>
> On 2/11/2011 11:52 AM, Scott Aron Bloom wrote:
>
> First Tunisia..
>
> Then Egypt...
>
> Now Nokia-Symbian Workers?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qt-interest-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs.com at qt.nokia.com
> [mailto:qt-interest-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs.com at qt.nokia.com <qt-interest-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs.com at qt.nokia.com>] On
> Behalf Of Mihail Naydenov
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:40 AM
> To: Atlant Schmidt; qt-interest at trolltech.com
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Many have not aware about this letter,Its for
> all who relies on Nokia
> http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-workers-mourn-death-of-symbian-
> thousands-walk-out/
>
>
> (+1)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> From: Atlant Schmidt <aschmidt at dekaresearch.com> <aschmidt at dekaresearch.com>
> To: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> <scorp1us at yahoo.com>; pmqt71 <pmqt71 at gmail.com> <pmqt71 at gmail.com>; BRM <bm_witness at yahoo.com> <bm_witness at yahoo.com>; "qt-interest at trolltech.com" <qt-interest at trolltech.com> <qt-interest at trolltech.com> <qt-interest at trolltech.com>
> Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 7:10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Many have not aware about this letter, Its
> for all who relies on Nokia
>
> Jason:
>
>
> But looks like a lot of trolls will be re-assigned to WP7, or let
>
> go.
>
> There's no particular reason why the Trolls should
> be especially raided to work on Nokia Windows Phone;
> Nokia has literally *THOUSANDS* of Symbian-developing
> and Symbian-using software engineers and every one
> of those engineers is suddenly 100% surplus to
> requirements but has closer experience to developing
> phones.
>
> The real question for the Trolls is that now that they
> no longer add any value to Nokia (and they don't; Qt
> won't appear on Nokia Windows Phone and Maemo/MeeGo
> is nothing more than a hobby that stands directly in
> the way of Microsoft's goals so it won't last long),
> how long will Nokia want to keep paying them? I'd
> guess no longer than the law requires in Sweden and
> Germany or until Nokia figures out how to divest Qt.
>
> Qt needs to rapidly revert to the situation before
> Trolltech was acquired by Nokia: Put Qt on a paying basis
> or see it disappear except for such effort as the open-
> source hobbyists are willing to donate.
>
> Atlant
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com
> [mailto:qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com <qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com>] On
>
> Behalf Of Jason H
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:46
> To: pmqt71; BRM; qt-interest at trolltech.com
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Many have not aware about this letter, Its
>
> for all who relies on Nokia
>
> I'm sorry, but QT Creator is not on par with Dev Studio. Its not even
>
> close.
>
> It is good for Qt and QML projects. But most everything supports
> Eclipse now, and would be the way to go today.
>
> QtCreator DOES focus on the phones because of all the cross compiler
>
> support.
>
> I think the open source approach is being abandoned because:
> 1) Elop was nto party to that
> 2) Nokia board brought him in to change stuff
> 3) Open source is too slow. Sorry, but it is. It'll copy something
> quickly, but as far as innovation goes... it takes forever. And Nokia
>
> has demonstrated this.
>
> It sounds like Qt is NOT going away. But looks like a lot of trolls
> will be re-assigned to WP7, or let go. The irony is I hope to be able
>
> to use Qt to make apps for iOS and Android, and I can't target WP7.
> Lets add those patched for iOS
> and Android because Elop's gotta undo this sooner than later. Elop
>
> says 2
>
> years
> to change direction. Nokia stock is down 13%. Market says Fail.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: pmqt71 <pmqt71 at gmail.com> <pmqt71 at gmail.com>
> To: BRM <bm_witness at yahoo.com> <bm_witness at yahoo.com>; qt-interest at trolltech.com
> Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 11:23:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Many have not aware about this letter, Its
>
> for all who relies on Nokia
>
>
> Qt Creator is pretty much on par with Visual Studios as an
>
> environment.
>
> It's
>
> far
> superior to most any other IDE out there.
> That's not to say it's perfect or that it is on par in every way,
> but it's makes a very good challenger to the VS market.
>
> Well, it's also a matter of preference. But let's take another point
> of view: how much resources, people, time, did it take to Nokia? how
> much it costs? but above all, why to develop a new IDE? Samsung, for
> instance, has shipped a new framework for their devices; did they
> need a new, dedicated IDE? Has Android a custom IDE?
> Qt Creator is just an example of how Nokia wanted to make (almost)
> ALL, but without focusing on the most important target: Nokia phones.
>
> pm
>
>
> 2011/2/11 BRM <bm_witness at yahoo.com> <bm_witness at yahoo.com>:
>
> From: Konstantin Tokarev <annulen at yandex.ru> <annulen at yandex.ru> 11.02.2011, 13:05,
> "Arnold Krille" <arnold at arnoldarts.de> <arnold at arnoldarts.de>:
> > They don't need to. Qt is LGPL, just leave Nokia (or get the
> pink
>
> slip,
>
> whichever comes first), gather in a new firm or in one of the
> existing
>
> Qt-
>
> consulting firms and continue to work on Qt or
>
> the_fork_formerly_known_as_Qt.
> But they need if they want to sell commercial licenses as they
> did
>
> before
>
> acquisition
>
> of Trolltech by Nokia
>
> Or just have the firm buy a Qt license first, before announcing the
>
> fork -
>
> it's
>
> perpetual itself; you just don't get support or updates beyond the
> 1 year
>
> mark.
>
> Now, I am not a lawyer, so consult one first.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> From: pmqt71 <pmqt71 at gmail.com> <pmqt71 at gmail.com>
> Porting Qt to WP7 is a nonsense. They already have a framework,
>
> they
>
> already have tools, good tools. Do you consider Qt Creator better
>
> than
>
> Visual Studio? Do you consider Qt Creator better than Visual C++
> Express (free) Edition? Can we compete?.
>
> Qt Creator is pretty much on par with Visual Studios as an
>
> environment.
> It's
>
> far
> superior to most any other IDE out there.
> That's not to say it's perfect or that it is on par in every way,
> but it's makes a very good challenger to the VS market.
>
> Now, per VC++ - Qt Creator uses a far superior compiler. VS's C++
> compiler
>
> is
>
> functional and improving, but no where near as good as GNU's g++,
> which underlies Qt Creator.
>
> $0.02
>
> Ben
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