[Qt-interest] VS 2010?

[Malyushytsky, Alex]

>> So, what you are suggesting is that I do this work on my own time.

While I was probably first (years before) arguing that binaries for default configuration should be available for all supported platforms (especially Windows since there are small number of those),
building at night does not require spending a single hour of you time.
This is based on about 10 years of experience building Qt.

And according to my experience Qt never fails to build on supported platform,
unless there is a bug in Qt which might happen for new platform (it happened 1 time to me).

When it failed to me it required patch and long investigation ( not a small change ).
But this is rare case and building Qt can be as simple as starting batch file.
I use script which I start before I leave.
Both win32 and  x64 versions can be built while you out of the office.
Even on my 3 year old PC it took less than night.

So if you really spend days you might want to change something in the process,
cause I doubt Qt team will be building binaries on your request
At least I failed to achieve this when I was a commercial customer.
This actually was one of the reasons why we decided to go LGPL.

Alex



-----Original Message-----
From: qt-interest-bounces+alex=wai.com at qt.nokia.com [mailto:qt-interest-bounces+alex=wai.com at qt.nokia.com] On Behalf Of Eric Clark
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:57 AM
To: Qt Interest (qt-interest at trolltech.com)
Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] VS 2010?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yves Bailly [mailto:yves.bailly at sescoi.fr]
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:18 AM
> To: Eric Clark
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] VS 2010?
>
> Eric Clark a écrit :
>  > [...]
>  > pay for Qt anymore because it actually saves us time and money. My time,
> since I am  > responsible for updating Qt, spent staring at my computer while
> I let Visual Studio  > use as much of my 4 processors as possible, is at least a
> full day if I have to do a  > [...]
>
> That kind of non-sense has shown a few time already on this list, and I really
> can't get it... if you need a whole day compiling, then don't compile during
> the day: start the compile in late evening, just before leaving office. The
> compile will go over night, keeping your safe salary.

First of all, calling what we do non-sense is rude and very inconsiderate. Our company has been around for over 30 years and is a multi-million dollar company for a reason. Obviously, they know what they are doing.

So, what you are suggesting is that I do this work on my own time. No. I am paid to work during the day and that is exactly when I will work. The company is fully aware of this and that is exactly why we do everything we can to make things faster and less expensive. Again... exactly why the company is a multi-million dollar company.

Lastly, let's just say I take your advice and work on my own time... When the build fails, I will find out in the morning. Then I will make a minor change, and wait again until the night time to run the build. Then, I find out again the next morning. So, now, what took me one day to do has taken 3 days to do.

So, as for "business sense" or what I would call now "common sense", one day is always better than three, especially if we have a deadline to meet.

>
> Basic "business sense" work organisation.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>       /- Yves Bailly - Software developper  -\
>       \- Sescoi R&D  - http://www.sescoi.fr -/ "The possible is done. The
> impossible is being done. For miracles, thanks to allow a little delay."
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