[Qt-interest] I see the Trolls are being sold to Digia

Tue Mar 8 12:50:20 CET 2011

Qt next:

> Is it possible to have more precision about the Qt future :
> Will trolls continues to work on Nokia or in Digia ?

  No, for *ALL OF US* outside of the PowerPointPalace in Espoo,
  Trolls and non-trolls alike, we can have no certain idea what's to
  become of Qt and when. We can look at the economics of the
  situation and make predictions, but there can't be any certainty.

  Several weeks ago, I stated right here that Nokia had no further
  commercial interest in Qt and predicted that the only good out-
  come for us all would be for Nokia to divest itself of Trolltech. This
  prediction was predicated on economics and the fact that further
  investments in Qt had essentially no value to Nokia: They'd sell
  (or not sell) their 150-million planned Symbian orphans with or
  without finishing the Qt UI and MeeGo was officially deemed to
  be nothing more than a hobby so any further investments Nokia
  made/makes in developing Qt is wasted cash they can ill-afford.

  Well, here they've taken a half-step: they divested themselves
  of all the direct income-producing operations of Qt but held on to
  the lion's share of the development engineers so that the Qt port
  to Nokia's mobile platforms could be mostly-completed. It's still
  a complete waste of time and effort, of course, so I doubt it will
  continue, but until Elop of Espoo announces it, we can't be sure.
  But Thiago pointed us to a blog post yesterday that essentially
  contained the numbers and there's no way Nokia can maintain
  that level of investment in a product that has no real return for
  them: finishing or not finishing the Qt UI for Symbian won't make
  or break the sales of those 150-million planned orphans and
  MeeGo has *NO* path to revenues for Nokia.

  So I fully expect further developments and they won't be good.
  Digia can make some money off of Qt (through support, mostly)
  but that revenue stream won't allow them to afford the sort of
  cash expenditure that Nokia has been throwing at Qt. I think
  you'll see Digia's position in Qt grow somewhat as Nokia
  slowly leaks out the news that they're completely abandoning
  their own position but Digia will never be able to operate at
  the intensity that Nokia has been working.

  The economics make all this inevitable, but the politics mean
  that Nokia won't ever give us the truth in one cold, hard blast.

                                     Atlant

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From: qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com [mailto:qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com] On Behalf Of qt next
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 15:19
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Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] I see the Trolls are being sold to Digia

Don't really understand if it's a good news or a very sad news ... Is it possible to have more precision about the Qt future : Will trolls continues to work on Nokia or in Digia ?
2011/3/7 Thiago Macieira <thiago at kde.org<mailto:thiago at kde.org>>

Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2011, às 08:20:48, Scott Aron Bloom escreveu:
> However, I wonder,and we will only find out in the next 12 months or
> so...  Will Nokia allow that same 14M worth of resources work on Qt?
http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/02/18/buckets-of-cold-water/

"We are currently ca 260 people in the Qt Development Frameworks organization
in Nokia."

The offices are located in Oslo, Berlin, Munich, Brisbane, Tampere (fi),
Helsinki, and Sunnyvale (California). Not exactly known for cheap labour.

So you make the calculation how much this costs.

Let me tell you: it's more than 14M.

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