[Qt-interest] I see the Trolls are being sold to Digia

[d3fault]

I have faith in nokia. They probably/hopefully want to focus on adding new
functionality/compatibility instead of doing tedious bug fixes for business
customers. Who's to say nokia won't have an app store and take a slice once
they start rolling out MeeGo phones? All MeeGo needs to compete with
ms/google/apple is a good marketing campaign (and deep pockets for said
marketing campaign). The different phone operating systems all provide more
or less the same functionality at the end of the day. The submitted apps on
the MeeGo phones' store would kick any other cell phone store's ass because
it would attract a metric fuck ton of developers who want to be able to CODE
ONCE and have all their apps run (natively) on a cell phone, tablet,
windows, mac, and linux desktop.... and be able to charge money for it
without paying any licensing fees (nokia takes a distribution fee for
selling it on the MeeGo app market)... but anyone could sell their apps
themselves on a website or in a store on an old fashioned cd-rom.

Yea, Qt's dead man... :p

The owner of Qt is irrelevant. Nokia could sell it, disban it, delete it,
burn it, even call it a piece of shit... but it'd still survive. Projects
like Qt stand above the corporations that owns them.

-d3fault
On Mar 8, 2011 4:51 AM, "Atlant Schmidt" <aschmidt at dekaresearch.com> wrote:
> Qt next:
>
>> Is it possible to have more precision about the Qt future :
>> Will trolls continues to work on Nokia or in Digia ?
>
> No, for *ALL OF US* outside of the PowerPointPalace in Espoo,
> Trolls and non-trolls alike, we can have no certain idea what's to
> become of Qt and when. We can look at the economics of the
> situation and make predictions, but there can't be any certainty.
>
> Several weeks ago, I stated right here that Nokia had no further
> commercial interest in Qt and predicted that the only good out-
> come for us all would be for Nokia to divest itself of Trolltech. This
> prediction was predicated on economics and the fact that further
> investments in Qt had essentially no value to Nokia: They'd sell
> (or not sell) their 150-million planned Symbian orphans with or
> without finishing the Qt UI and MeeGo was officially deemed to
> be nothing more than a hobby so any further investments Nokia
> made/makes in developing Qt is wasted cash they can ill-afford.
>
> Well, here they've taken a half-step: they divested themselves
> of all the direct income-producing operations of Qt but held on to
> the lion's share of the development engineers so that the Qt port
> to Nokia's mobile platforms could be mostly-completed. It's still
> a complete waste of time and effort, of course, so I doubt it will
> continue, but until Elop of Espoo announces it, we can't be sure.
> But Thiago pointed us to a blog post yesterday that essentially
> contained the numbers and there's no way Nokia can maintain
> that level of investment in a product that has no real return for
> them: finishing or not finishing the Qt UI for Symbian won't make
> or break the sales of those 150-million planned orphans and
> MeeGo has *NO* path to revenues for Nokia.
>
> So I fully expect further developments and they won't be good.
> Digia can make some money off of Qt (through support, mostly)
> but that revenue stream won't allow them to afford the sort of
> cash expenditure that Nokia has been throwing at Qt. I think
> you'll see Digia's position in Qt grow somewhat as Nokia
> slowly leaks out the news that they're completely abandoning
> their own position but Digia will never be able to operate at
> the intensity that Nokia has been working.
>
> The economics make all this inevitable, but the politics mean
> that Nokia won't ever give us the truth in one cold, hard blast.
>
> Atlant
>
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> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 15:19
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> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] I see the Trolls are being sold to Digia
>
> Don't really understand if it's a good news or a very sad news ... Is it
possible to have more precision about the Qt future : Will trolls continues
to work on Nokia or in Digia ?
> 2011/3/7 Thiago Macieira <thiago at kde.org<mailto:thiago at kde.org>>
>
> Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2011, às 08:20:48, Scott Aron Bloom
escreveu:
>> However, I wonder,and we will only find out in the next 12 months or
>> so... Will Nokia allow that same 14M worth of resources work on Qt?
> http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/02/18/buckets-of-cold-water/
>
> "We are currently ca 260 people in the Qt Development Frameworks
organization
> in Nokia."
>
> The offices are located in Oslo, Berlin, Munich, Brisbane, Tampere (fi),
> Helsinki, and Sunnyvale (California). Not exactly known for cheap labour.
>
> So you make the calculation how much this costs.
>
> Let me tell you: it's more than 14M.
>
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