[Qt-qml] Standards?

[Jason H]

I apologize for some of those unintelligible statements. I just got excited.
"...and provide a 1st rate [replacement] on all platforms."
"(Its [not] every day you get [a chance] to change the the web [and break it 
free from proprietary chains])"




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From: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>
To: simon.turvey at nokia.com
Cc: qt-qml at trolltech.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 12:56:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Qt-qml] Standards?


The problem with me and the "baton" is is that I am outside Nokia and that 
creates problems:
1) Qt plugins would need to have to be modified to prevent malicious hacking. 
Flash only allows persistent storage to registry objects. The HTML5 database 
stuff would/should be the only storage. Lical file-system i/o needs to be 
prevented as well. 

2) Binaries would have to be signed by a credible source, preferably Nokia.
3) Language control despite "open governance" is, and will likely always be, 
heavily influenced by the whims of Nokia.


Still, with QML as a standard (W3C or even ECMA) people will likely flock to it 
due to being free and open. Look at what happened with VP8.  Additional people 
(and I mean developers) will flock to it because they want 1st rate support on 
Linux and OSX. 


I don't think QML needs to 'prove itself'. VP8 is already being included, and is 
unproven and questionably licensed. I definitely think QML will change over 
time. But it stands to break out from Adobe AIR and Silverlight (and Moonlight) 
and provide a 1st rate on all platforms replacement.

If Nokia wants to hire me for this initiative, I would give it serious 
consideration. (Its nto every day you get to break a change the the web) But 
between the standards process and getting the necessary code tweaks done, I 
think it is a full-time job, not something that can be done on the side.




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From: "simon.turvey at nokia.com"  <simon.turvey at nokia.com>
Cc: qt-qml at trolltech.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 9:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Qt-qml] Standards?

 
Well, you could pick up the Qt on NaCl baton and help take that that forward.
 
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/06/25/qt-for-google-native-client-preview/
 
From:qt-qml-bounces at trolltech.com [mailto:qt-qml-bounces at trolltech.com] On 
Behalf Of ext Ivan De Marino
Sent: 16 July 2010 12:31
To: Jason H
Cc: qt-qml at trolltech.com
Subject: Re: [Qt-qml] Standards?
 
If with "submit QML as web standard" you mean to "submit QML to W3C for 
standardization", I guess you should bear in mind that Flash ISN'T a standard.
I just happened to become widely used because filled a gap that HTML (and 
relata) on it's own couldn't.
 
I would love though to be able to develop stuff in QML and have it running 
within a browser.
Problem is, we would fall into the trap of User requiring to install another 
plugin so that a QML-player could sit into an "<object>" tag.
 
Other options could be to extend the <canvas> set of context to support a "QML 
context". But maybe this is just dreaming...
 
QML still has to prove itself on the wide scene, unfortunately.
 
On 15 July 2010 03:48, Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> wrote:
I was wondering if there are any plans to submit QML as a web standard, so that
we can replace Flash? This would be the first fully open source implementation
of anything close to it.




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