[Qt-qml] QML if Nokia goes WinPhone7?

[Michael Rychlik]

JasonH said:

>> But Qt has yet to ship on anything. Android an iOS are targets.
>> They have markets. Why worry about something that has 0% market share?

What? Qt is the basis of KDE which is the GUI or choice on many Linux
systems which run on PC and ARM boards etc etc.

Qt makes it possible for our GUI apps to be cross platform. Qt + KDE is a
direct competitor to Windows. MS would surely love to stifle it.

In fact I would go as far as to say that the European commission should look
at this from a monopoly angle with a view to preventing MS getting control
of Qt.



On 13 February 2011 02:56, Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Good news, you're wrong! :-)
>
> Well Nokia, unlike other developers (!!) can customize anything about WP7.
> This is huge. You're looking a commercial MS kernel and Nokia apps.
>
> MS has no interest in Qt or killing Qt. Its not even a threat on their
> radar, because Qt can't happen in WP7. And MS is doing well with .Net, and
> web services are the current growth industry. So Qt is like a Borland
> compiler. Sure you'll find it but you don't worry about that market.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Charley Bay <charleyb123 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Mark S. Townsley <mstownsley at gmail.com>; qt-qml at trolltech.com
> *Sent:* Sat, February 12, 2011 12:48:17 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Qt-qml] QML if Nokia goes WinPhone7?
>
> Jason H spaketh:
>
>> Qt-interest has had a thread on this, and engadget has several posts.
>>
>> However on your points:
>>
>> "Specifically, through this deal, Microsoft effectively has primary
>> control of the Qt product line."
>> is absolutely false. The git repos are open, and will remain that way.
>> Someone in qt-interest said keep with the main branch until they stop
>> accepting contributions, then fork away.
>>
>
> We agree that the git repos are accessible, and an LGPL fork is always an
> option.  In that sense, the code won't "disappear".
>
> However, the assertion is that the Nokia<==>Microsoft deal gives Microsoft
> strangle-hold control over the Nokia product line (operating system and
> development tools pipeline), and Nokia no longer has business interest in
> Qt.  Microsoft will use this influence to "embrace and extend" Qt (e.g.,
> "break" or otherwise coerce Qt to rely upon "convenience" features in
> WinPhone7), or coerce Nokia to abandon future Qt efforts (because Nokia has
> no longer controls its own OS).
>
> Thus, absent new information, the Qt/QML codebase will merely grow stale,
> unless a new party "picks it up".  But, that party will *not* be Nokia, and
> will *not* be Microsoft.  (My unsupported assertion, I'm not affiliated with
> either company, except as a commercial Nokia customer.)
>
> Qt and MeeGo are still essential to the tablet line. WP7 won't ever be on a
>> tablet because MS wants a full Win7 license for it. So MeeGo is it.
>>
>
> We'll see how excited Intel is about Meego as time marches on.  However, I
> don't expect any serious effort by Nokia on Meego going forward.
>
>
>> We'll still have what we want, but my bet is that the enhancements will
>> come slower.
>>
>
> Slower, yes.  The question is whether it becomes "stale".  If so, it's
> merely no longer a viable development platform.  (New development would in
> that case not reasonably consider it as a viable development platform.)
>
> IMHO, that was (almost) entirely Microsoft's goal (competitor elimination).
>
>
>> QML is absolutely awesome and is likely immensely important to the tablet
>> endeavor. So I think its here to stay.
>>
>
> We agree QML is absolutely awesome.  We disagree it will be awesome under a
> slower/lower development effort (e.g., without full-throated institutional
> backing).
>
> I really do hope I'm wrong.
>
>
>
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