[Releasing] Meeting minutes: Qt 5.1 release team meeting 06.05.2013

[Heikkinen Jani]

Hi,

Meeting minutes from Qt 5.1 release team meeting 06.05.2013:

-         Installers are available but there seems to be some problems in some of those

o   Windows packages missed icu dll files (UPDATE 8.5: Fixed)

o   Android Linux 64bit installer not working (UPDATE 8.5: works now)

o   Android Windows-32bit installer might not get into beta1

-         CI was not working for a few days so we are still waiting for the latest fixes to get into release packages

o   UPDATE 8.5: qt5.git now updated & builds ongoing. There should be new installers ready for testing tomorrow

-         Aim is to get remaining critical fixes in for packages tomorrow and if no critical issues found possible beta1 release day this Wednesday in a happy day scenario

o   UPDATE 8.5: Happy day scenario didn't happen -> plan is to get beta1 release out Tue 14.05.2013

-         Next meeting  13.05.2013 16:00 CET

IRC log below

Br,
Jani

<iieklund> kkoehne: ramotyka: sahumada: thiago_: fkleint: ZapB: tronical: ping
<sahumada|home> iieklund: pong
<ZapB> iieklund: pong
<fkleint>  iieklund: pong
<kkoehne> iieklund: pong
<thiago_> iieklund: pong
<iieklund> I'm substituting akseli&jani today
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<iieklund> is tronical at office today?
<iieklund> maybe we can start anyway
<iieklund> Agenda proposal:
<iieklund> * 5.1 installer \ packaging status (including CI system & are latest changes in)
<iieklund> * Qt5.1.0-beta1 release schedule
<iieklund> * Missing examples -status
<iieklund> * Open errors from https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-30688,
<iieklund> * Other topics we should have in agenda?
<iieklund> * Next meeting?
<iieklund> any additions to above?
<ZapB> no
<iieklund> ok
<iieklund> I'll start with installer/packaging status
<fkleint> I guess not, basically there is a huge pile of changes waiting to get into 5.1 now, including regression fixes and we need t oget the CI working again
<fkleint> and empty the pile before anthing else
<iieklund> yes, I'll first go through the current installer status and ci after that
<iieklund> there are installers available, but some issues in current ones
<iieklund> silent bug in creator build, some Windows packages missed icu dll files
<iieklund> this is fixed now and should be effective in packages tomorrow
<iieklund> this caused the creator to stop working
<iieklund> Android Linux-32bit installer works ok, Linux-64bit installer should be ok tomorrow
<iieklund> Android Windows-32bit installer might not get into beta1, but trying to get it finished this week
<thiago> did we get the SQL plugins?
<iieklund> that is still pending in gerrit: sahumada?
<sahumada|home> thiago: not yet .. we could get PostgreSQL on Linux ..
<sahumada|home> it fails on Windows 64 bit though
<sahumada|home> Mac already has the PostgreSQL plugin
<fkleint> Oh, right there is only sQlite/ODBC on Windows
<fkleint> Should we have MySQL as well?
<thiago> how about MySQL?
<sahumada|home> havent checked MySQL yet .. I was going to do that after PostgreSQL
<sahumada|home> I guess for Linux it should be pretty easy to add
<iieklund> about android still, the android installers contain armv7 and x86 targets
<iieklund> armv5 compilation not succeeding yet, change is in gerrit but fails in ci atm
<iieklund> other installers are available as well
<iieklund> so any feedback from the packages is welcome
<iieklund> any questions about installers?
<kkoehne> iieklund: Would it still be okay to switch MiNGW version after the beta is out? Cause we right now still have mingw 4.7
<iieklund> yes
<iieklund> but well before rc1
<iieklund> we can check that after we get beta1 out
<kkoehne> iieklund: Okay, so next week latest.
<iieklund> btw. what is the status with mingw4.8 ?
<kkoehne> iieklund: THe issue with the CI system was a deploy problem (apparently the toolchain wasn't deployed completely by the puppet)
<iieklund> kkoehne: ok so nothing wrong in the tool chain itself?
<kkoehne> iieklund: I don't think so
<iieklund> ok
<thiago> I'd rather we do all packaging changes for beta1
<thiago> what's holding the mingw update?
<thiago> oh, I'm slow today
<thiago> thanks :-)
<iieklund> thiago: all packaging changes can not be done for beta
<kkoehne> thiago: Just someone doing the change, and risking that we'll break builds all over again ;)
<iieklund> for e.g. installer-framework update
<iieklund> and yes, icu version updated into 5..1.1
<iieklund> 5.1.1
<thiago> right, but if we could, we should do it for the beta :-)
<iieklund> any other questions about installers / packages?
<iieklund> CI next?
<iieklund> sahumada|home?
<sahumada|home> ?
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<iieklund> sahumada|home: do you have latest info from ci?
<sahumada|home> iieklund: not really .. all I know is that Linpro is working on some DNS changes that should unblock the CI
<iieklund> ok
<thiago> Linpro is not in the critical path
<sahumada|home> iieklund: there is another problem with tst_qhostinfo .. but I think that's just an unstable failure
<thiago> it can't be an unstable failure if *all* the tests failed reliably
<thiago> this is an operational thing, let's skip it
<thiago> what's the long-term CI status for 5.1?
<iieklund> ci was not working for a few days so we are still waiting for the latest fixes to get into release packages
<thiago> someone was complaining 8 hours ago that the CI hadn't updated qt5.git for weeks
<iieklund> roughly 100 changes since last wednesday
<sahumada|home> yes.. around 100 changes waiting in qt5.git
<iieklund> it was updated last wednesday
<thiago> ok, so the report was incorrect, thanks
<thiago> glad to know :-)
<iieklund> there are doc fixes pending that we want into beta
<kkoehne> Also some quite important fixes for mac (I heard).
<sahumada|home> these are the pending changes https://codereview.qt-project.org/55451
<kkoehne> -> crash fixes.
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<fkleint> yes, example structure and WebKit2/WinDesktop OpenGL  fix would also be very much appreciated
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<fkleint>  QTBUG-30912 / QTBUG-30290 basically
<iieklund> fkleint: is that in gerrit?
<fkleint> they are submitted actually
<fkleint> I think this is a matter of  qt5.git
<iieklund> fkleint: so if ci updated qt5.git next night we would get that fix in packages tomorrow
<fkleint> ;-)
<iieklund> ok, is there anything else about ci?
<thiago> just the operational issues, not a subject for this meeting
<iieklund> ok
<iieklund> * Qt5.1.0-beta1 release schedule
<fkleint> there are a few widget regression fixes in gerrit..but at a pinch they can wait after the beta..
<iieklund> ok
<iieklund> aim is to get remaining critical fixes in for packages tomorrow
<iieklund> if no critical issues found possible beta1 release day this wednesday in a happy day scenario
<iieklund> but it depends pretty much about ci
<thiago> :-)
<iieklund> and what is the test status based on packages tomorrow
<thiago> we do have a major issue that the draw helpers are leaking optimised code outside the checked regions
<thiago> but that's just a P1 like any other
<fkleint> I am not sure what the current status of Mac and widget regressions is and whether it would be better to postpone
<iieklund> thiago: ok....bug number?
<fkleint> otherwise, users might be disappointed
<iieklund> thiage: is that linked to 5.1.0 meta task list?
<iieklund> thiago: is that linked to 5.1.0 meta task list?
<kkoehne> thiago: Could that incidentally lead to crashes in _strcmP_sse42 when loading plugins?
<thiago> kkoehne: no
<kkoehne> thiago: :(
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<thiago> iieklund: I'll check
<iieklund> thiago: thanks
<iieklund> plan is to delay release builds next night a bit so that we get the qt5.git updated before that
<iieklund> there is a big bunch of fixes waiting so some of the critical ones should be fixed listed in the meta task list
<iieklund> anything to ask about the beta release schedule?
<fkleint> Should we postpone or not given that users might be disappointed not to see widgets regression/Mac stuff fixed in the beta packlages due to CI hickups
<fkleint> ?
<thiago> if it's brown-paper-bag material, yes
<iieklund> can we live with those as known issue and mark them to be fixed in rc1
<thiago> who can make that decision?
<ZapB> I would suggest postponing if they are serious regressions
<iieklund> which is close as well
<iieklund> what is the case? crash?
<fkleint> On Mac I am not sure, I hear Qt Creator looks pretty bad
<kkoehne> iieklund: On mac there are crashes e.g. in Designer.
<fkleint>  that one, yes
<iieklund> does a fix exist?
<kkoehne> iieklund: yes, reportedly fixed in qtbase.git/stable since a week or so.
<iieklund> fkleint: "due to CI hickups"  ?
<fkleint> or complete fail
<thiago> kkoehne: send the backtrace of those plugin fails to me
<iieklund> so the fix is in qtbase.git but not in qt5.git?
<fkleint> hasn't really been integrating for a week or so
<iieklund> fkleint: ^ ?
<fkleint> I don't have an overview what depends on  qt5.git and what is still pending in gerrit, admittedly
<fkleint> depending on the result of the Bugzy Tuesday,
<iieklund> if the fix is in qtbase.git then I would assume we only need the qt5.git update for this ?
<fkleint> For the Mac crash yes,probably that requires   qt5.git only
<iieklund> so in happy day scenario we might have it in packages tomorrow?
<fkleint> yes
<iieklund> ok, good
<fkleint> eike: around, If    qt5.git  updated to the latest qtbase.git. would Qt Creator look ok on Mac?
<iieklund> if the qt5.git update succeeds and we get new installers tomorrow without any brown paper bag issues then it could be beta1 material? Or do we know something else is missing?
<fkleint> Hard to tell, really, you would need to ask in Oslo what was fixed for last Bugzy Tuesday, were there any embarrasing showstoppers bascially
<iieklund> fkleint: ok, need to check that with jani tomorrow
<eike> fkleint: as ok as it goes for now
<fkleint> that stuff has  not integrated I guess
<kkoehne> iieklund: qtserialport documentation showing up. I don't know whether that has been fixed already in git
<eike> meaning that quite some serious issues have been fixed
<iieklund> kakoehne: ?
<kkoehne> iieklund: I mean, documentation for e.g. qtserialport is still not showing up in qtcreator, and I don't know whether qt5.git update woudl fix it.
<kkoehne> iieklund: Personally I'd say that would be okay for a beta though.
<iieklund> kkoehne: ok...we will see that tomorrow
<eike> would be nice if https://codereview.qt-project.org/55292 still made it, but hey, that's broken since 5.0
<kkoehne> iieklund:  so ... do we do another short meeting tomorrow afternoon to decide whether we've something to release?
<iieklund> kkoehne: that would be reasonable if we get packages during the next night
<ZapB> i'll be unavailable (on customer site) tomorrow and wed but please carry on without me
<iieklund> kkoehne: I will check this jani tomorrow, if we have beta1 candidate then I'd say we could keep a mtg
<kkoehne> iieklund: okay
<thiago> a meeting in 24 hours?
<iieklund> roughly yes
<kkoehne> 23:15 hours, please :)
<fkleint> ok
<thiago> I really doubt we'll get any CI changes through
<iieklund> thiago: well we'll see that tomorrow :)
<thiago> ok, let's set up the meeting
<thiago> but can we make the decision to have the meeting before 0900 CEST tomorrow?
<thiago> I'd like to know if I need to set the alarm
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<iieklund> I'll let Jani to invite in case we don't find blockers right away
<thiago> if the CI does not integrate in the next 18 hours, the meeting is cancelled, ok?
<iieklund> there is no point to have the mtg if we find blockers during the day
<iieklund> yes
<iieklund> thiago: yes
<iieklund> ok, next
<iieklund> * Missing examples
<iieklund> kakoehne: ^
<kkoehne> Yeah, well, we're missign qtwebkit-examples in creator :)
<kkoehne> My guess is that it's because of a fix in qtwebkit-examples that's not yet integrated in qt5.git
<kkoehne> (the .pro file is still named qtwebkit-examples-and-demos)
<kkoehne> also , e.g. qtserialport examples are still missing . I guess that's related to the missing documentation.
<iieklund> the webkit examples were still usable, you just had to manually open the .pro
<kkoehne> iieklund: yes.
<iieklund> kkoehne: is this assigned to correct people?
<kkoehne> iieklund: Don't know, actually. THere's an unspecific task about qtserialport in the docs meta task.
<kkoehne> iieklund: I can go through the examples and file more specific bugs tomorrow.
<iieklund> kkoehne: ok, I need to ask jani/rafal check this to whom this belongs
<iieklund> kkoehne: thanks
<iieklund> next * Open errors from https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-30688
<iieklund> QTBUG-31016
<iieklund> QtMultimedia: examples/multimediawidgets/customvideosurface/customvideoitem crashes on Linux, Windows
<iieklund> fkleint: ?
<fkleint> iiekllund: Ye,s not sure how relevant this is
<iieklund> it was marked as P2 ?
<fkleint> iiekllund: could be a long-standing issue
<iieklund> ok...priority valid?
<fkleint> I guess so, yes
<iieklund> ok, thanks
<iieklund> QTBUG-30173
<fkleint> I hope multimedia folks can check it
<fkleint> soonish
<iieklund> ah the QTBUG-30173 was meta task for docs
<iieklund> there are some doc fixes pending in ci
<iieklund> so need to check this tomorrow if we get new packages
<iieklund> QTBUG-30660, opening the device options panel twices crashes on qt5/mac
<ZapB> sorry guys - got to run to another meeting. I'll catch up from minutes email
<iieklund> ZapB: ok, thanks
<iieklund> guess the QTBUG-30660 is still valid
<iieklund> QTBUG-30786, QWidget:create(WId window, ...) broken for OSX (regression)
<iieklund> this is marked as critical, but there is comment: "Qt Mac Extras should be the way to go in this case."
<iieklund> would anshaw know about this?
* thiago needs to run too
<iieklund> thiago: ok, thanks for joining
<anshaw> iieklund: no idea on the face of it at least
<iieklund> anshaw: ok, thanks
<iieklund> QTBUG-30923
<iieklund> there exists a fix for this but not integrated: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,55036
<fkleint> needs review by the GraphicsView experts
<iieklund> ok
<iieklund> QTBUG-30661, QDialog sizing and drawing issues
<iieklund> this one looks annoying
<fkleint> As I said, Mac bugs, there is a ton more of these issues, delayed by the CI failure
<fkleint> probably
<iieklund> yes
<iieklund> QTBUG-30979, Cannot Build Embedded Dialogs Example
<iieklund> seems to be fixed in latest installers
<fkleint> that is strange, looks like misconf of Cerator
<fkleint> yes
<iieklund> has anybody else confirmed that?
<fkleint> I could build it on the cmd line
<iieklund> can this be closed?
<fkleint> but did not find in the examplkes page of Creator
<fkleint> due to the mess of local Qt versions we have .
<fkleint> I would guess so, yes
<iieklund> ok
<iieklund> QTBUG-30822, Not able to build application with VS2012 IDE
<fkleint>  Not relevant..use Creator
<iieklund> ok :)
<kkoehne> fkleint: :)
<fkleint> or VS integration
<fkleint> but looks complicated
<iieklund> QTBUG-30212, "Change packaged MinGW to x32-4.8.0-release-win32-dwarf-rev2.7z"  -> update will happen after beta1
<iieklund> those were all the bugs in meta task list
<iieklund> at the moment
<iieklund> ok, any other items in mind?
<iieklund> if not let's see if we get packages in good shape tomorrow
<iieklund> I will inform if/when new packages are available for testing
<fkleint> yep
<iieklund> if we have a happy day scenario jani will invide a mtg for this wed
<iieklund> in other case it will be next monday? the same time?
<fkleint> ok
<kkoehne> iieklund: Sounds good.
<iieklund> ok, thanks for everybody
<iieklund> bye
<kkoehne> bye
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