From mitch.curtis at digia.com Fri Mar 1 10:58:01 2013 From: mitch.curtis at digia.com (Mitch Curtis) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:58:01 +0100 Subject: [Web] Suggestion to include info about dependencies on Qt download page In-Reply-To: <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E5E@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> References: <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866DEC@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E35@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <866295be1f5b7ebf676ae4be94de2122@anavi.org> <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E5E@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> Message-ID: <51307BA9.3070404@digia.com> On 02/28/2013 12:59 PM, Koehne Kai wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: web-bounces+kai.koehne=digia.com at qt-project.org [mailto:web- >> bounces+kai.koehne=digia.com at qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Leon Anavi >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:49 PM >> To: web at qt-project.org >> Subject: Re: [Web] Suggestion to include info about dependencies on Qt >> download page >> >> Hi All, >> >>> It might be all obvious >>> for us, but some newbies are really struggling sometimes. And there >>> are lots of new people coming to Qt, at least judging from my reading >>> of the forums. Having a link to Qt's requirements on the download page is definitely a good idea, but I think creating a third page that lists requirements is a bad idea. It means we have to keep all of these up-to-date: [1] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtdoc/requirements.html [2] http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building_Qt_5_from_Git [3] http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt5_dependencies Can we kill the Qt5_dependencies page and just link to [1]? >> I agree. The download and the installation of the SDK is the first impression >> that Qt makes to newbies and it is very important. An inexperienced student >> might decide not to use Qt just because of a minor issue during the >> installation. > > Sure, but IMO the Downloads page isn't the right place. Let's keep this clean and mean so that you can actually find stuff :) We ship a README in every binary installer, maybe we can extend that by information on where to get the compiler ... Why isn't it the right place? It's only one line of text. There's an area for notes under each section. We could put the link to [1] as the first line of the notes for the Qt 5.0 section. From sierdzio at gmail.com Fri Mar 1 11:09:33 2013 From: sierdzio at gmail.com (Tomasz Siekierda) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Web] Suggestion to include info about dependencies on Qt download page In-Reply-To: <51307BA9.3070404@digia.com> References: <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866DEC@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E35@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <866295be1f5b7ebf676ae4be94de2122@anavi.org> <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E5E@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <51307BA9.3070404@digia.com> Message-ID: >>>> It might be all obvious >>>> for us, but some newbies are really struggling sometimes. And there >>>> are lots of new people coming to Qt, at least judging from my reading >>>> of the forums. > > Having a link to Qt's requirements on the download page is definitely a > good idea, but I think creating a third page that lists requirements is > a bad idea. It means we have to keep all of these up-to-date: > > [1] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtdoc/requirements.html > [2] http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building_Qt_5_from_Git > [3] http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt5_dependencies > > Can we kill the Qt5_dependencies page and just link to [1]? Yes, feel free to do that. *BUT* That requirements page [1] seems a little bit too complicated at first sight and it includes *build-dependencies* (which people don't need when using prebuilt libraries/ SDK). The idea behind [3] was to provide a simple listing of stuff that people need when they are using prebuilt installers from qt-project.org/downloads. So I would rather suggest adding the distinction between prebuilt and "source" to the documentation at [1], or leave everything to [2] and [3]. Remember we are talking mostly about people new to Qt, very often students who have little experience in the area. Telling them they have to install Perl, Ruby and Python + a bunch of *-dev libs when it's not really needed might discourage them. From mitch.curtis at digia.com Fri Mar 1 15:42:25 2013 From: mitch.curtis at digia.com (Mitch Curtis) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:42:25 +0100 Subject: [Web] Suggestion to include info about dependencies on Qt download page In-Reply-To: References: <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866DEC@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E35@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <866295be1f5b7ebf676ae4be94de2122@anavi.org> <5B2736A3C8B75B4BB66BC58DC5E889B0866E5E@IT-EXMB01-HKI.it.local> <51307BA9.3070404@digia.com> Message-ID: <5130BE51.4090001@digia.com> On 03/01/2013 11:09 AM, Tomasz Siekierda wrote: >>>>> It might be all obvious >>>>> for us, but some newbies are really struggling sometimes. And there >>>>> are lots of new people coming to Qt, at least judging from my reading >>>>> of the forums. >> >> Having a link to Qt's requirements on the download page is definitely a >> good idea, but I think creating a third page that lists requirements is >> a bad idea. It means we have to keep all of these up-to-date: >> >> [1] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtdoc/requirements.html >> [2] http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building_Qt_5_from_Git >> [3] http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt5_dependencies >> >> Can we kill the Qt5_dependencies page and just link to [1]? > > Yes, feel free to do that. > > *BUT* > That requirements page [1] seems a little bit too complicated at first > sight and it includes *build-dependencies* (which people don't need > when using prebuilt libraries/ SDK). The idea behind [3] was to > provide a simple listing of stuff that people need when they are using > prebuilt installers from qt-project.org/downloads. So I would rather > suggest adding the distinction between prebuilt and "source" to the > documentation at [1], or leave everything to [2] and [3]. My bad, carry on. :p From knut.yrvin at digia.com Mon Mar 4 14:37:43 2013 From: knut.yrvin at digia.com (Knut Yrvin) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:37:43 +0100 Subject: [Web] Finishing the Qt Project Web governance documents Message-ID: <8793396.2OnIHpcIUH@laptop> Hi, I don't think it's necessary with added IRC meeting today since: The focus now is on finishing two key documents. First is the The Qt Project Web Open Governance model http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_Project_Web_Open_Governance Second is the working document: Suggested action running Qt Project Web and Open Governance: http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_Project_Web_Actions My plan is to make both document in good shape this week after drafting it last week. I'm working on a blog on announcing the whole effort done by Qt Project Web moderators and other contributors in the community. Comments and improvements to those documents are highly appreciated. The goal is to have everything in shape before end of March. Not to forget, Digia is assessing the action plan too I regards of what to help out with. Especially the Single Sign On feature and the fact that articles can't be merged automatically on the Wiki are key concerns for many Qt contributors and developers. I'll invite to several meetings with different parties, helping out to make things happen on the suggested actions. Best regards Knut Yrvin -- Open Source Community Manager - Digia, Qt Email: knut.yrvin at digia.com - Mobile: + 47 934 79 561 Visit us on: http://qt.digia.com From sierdzio at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 14:57:41 2013 From: sierdzio at gmail.com (Tomasz Siekierda) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:57:41 +0100 Subject: [Web] Fwd: Finishing the Qt Project Web governance documents In-Reply-To: References: <8793396.2OnIHpcIUH@laptop> Message-ID: On 4 March 2013 14:37, Knut Yrvin wrote: > I don't think it's necessary with added IRC meeting today since: The focus > now is on finishing two key documents. Fine. > First is the The Qt Project Web Open Governance model > http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_Project_Web_Open_Governance > > Second is the working document: Suggested action running Qt Project Web > and Open Governance: > http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_Project_Web_Actions > > My plan is to make both document in good shape this week after drafting it > last week. I'm working on a blog on announcing the whole effort done by Qt > Project Web moderators and other contributors in the community. > > Comments and improvements to those documents are highly appreciated. Hey, thanks go to you for your work, too :) I'll take a look at those docs when I have some spare time. sierdzio From sierdzio at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 10:20:25 2013 From: sierdzio at gmail.com (Tomasz Siekierda) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:20:25 +0100 Subject: [Web] Old DevDays videos (2k10, 2k11) Message-ID: Hi, I've recently got a question about videos from old DevDays. Does any of you have any information where (or more importantly: if) they can be found? Newest vids are on qt-project.org and YouTube, that is clear. Older were probably copyrighted by Nokia, but used to be available on our web page. Link to the thread: http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/25423/ Cheers, sierdzio