[Development] Long time before becoming approver?

[lars.knoll at nokia.com]

On 11/3/11 1:05 PM, "ext André Somers" <andre at familiesomers.nl> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Frankly, I don't really get this discussion. What is the rush exactly in
>appointing approvers? Why is there is need to speed up the appointment
>procedure?
>
>We have /just/ started working with the open governance model. I would
>suggest we first try it out in its current form for a while before we
>start changing it. That way, we can see what works in practice, instead
>of changing the rules while playing the game. As long as no real problems
>occur with the current rules, I don't see the need to change them, let
>alone complicate them by introducing probation periods and the likes.
>
>If a serious and urgent need arises, I trust Lars to make the right call
>in the interest of the project and use his benevolent dictator powers to
>bend the rules for a specific case or force a decision when needed.

Thanks for the trust Andre :)

I actually agree, let's use the system that we have set up and see how it
works before starting to tweak it.

Cheers,
Lars


> 
>
>Andre
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:50 AM,  <eike.ziller at nokia.com> wrote:
>
>One could also handle the "relevant people might be on vacation" issue by
>giving approvers a "probation period" where they are approvers in gerrit,
>but the status can be revoked without the hassle of a "vote of no
>confidence", to give people who where not available for some reason the
>chance to still raise concerns.
>
>1) proposal + seconded
>2) after n-weeks (1? 2?) --> approver on probation
>3) after n more weeks (1? 2?) --> approver
>
>Just an idea.
>
>Btw, I don't think the governance model handles how changes to the
>governance model itself are done :)
>
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>ext João Abecasis [joao.abecasis at nokia.com]
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>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:34
>To: ext Thiago Macieira
>Cc: development at qt-project.org
>Subject: Re: [Development] proposing Richard Moore as approver
>
>On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:52 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 2 de November de 2011 11:14:47 Olivier Goffart wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 01 November 2011 16:00:30 Peter Hartmann wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> hereby I would like to propose Richard Moore as approver for the Qt
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> Rich has made numerous high-quality commits to the Qt SSL code and
>>>>knows
>>>> Qt very well, being a KDE contributor since the very beginning.
>>>>
>>>> Shane Kearns and Martin Petersson second this proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Please raise any concerns you might have about this until 22nd of
>>>> November 2011 (see the guide lines at
>>>> 
>>>>http://wiki.qt-project.org/The_Qt_Governance_Model#How_to_become_an_App
>>>>rov
>>>> er ).
>>>
>>> I know it is not needed, but I also recommand Richard as an approver.
>>>
>>> But am I alone to think that 3 weeks of waiting time is a lot?
>>> 15 work day is a lot,  how about reducing it to something between 7
>>>and 10
>>> work days?
>>
>> I think the number was chosen so that people who might be on vacations
>>have
>> the time to react. But I agree it's a bit high.
>
>On the other hand, maintainers and approvers who vouch for proposed
>approvers can already Rubber-Stamp their review recommendations in gerrit
>without doing the review themselves. In practice, that's what being and
>approver means: others trust your review decisions.
>
>Given that we all hope and expect Qt, its approvers and maintainers to be
>active for a long while is the waiting time such and impediment?
>
>(For the record, I'm not opposed to reducing the waiting time for
>approvers)
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>João
>
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