[Development] The future of QFuture, and QtConcurrent (was "Is QtConcurrent's code generator still in use?")
Tony Van Eerd
tvaneerd at rim.com
Sat Nov 17 00:46:32 CET 2012
C++1y (ie whatever the next standard might be called) will likely have even more threading options.
Including an "executor" model where you queue up std::functions to be run on background thread(s). But the background threading is "configurable" by the fact that the executor object isn't completely hidden from you (like it is with std::async(), etc).
Maybe we should model something along those lines. I've used that model quite successfully in the past.
I can probably find the current proposal(s) in the standards committee if anyone is interested.
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> [mailto:development-bounces+tvaneerd=rim.com at qt-project.org] On Behalf
> Of Olivier Goffart
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:37 PM
> To: development at qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Development] The future of QFuture, and QtConcurrent (was
> "Is QtConcurrent's code generator still in use?")
> On Thursday 15 November 2012 23:08:39 Sze Howe Koh wrote:
> > Thiago also hinted that QtConcurrent development is being minimized
> > ("...we're not developing QtConcurrent anymore and shouldn't be
> > spending any effort on this than necessary to keep it working" ).
> > That suggests that the dev team has reached a dead end with the code
> > -- although the problems aren't immediately obvious to outsiders.
> > If the quality of QtConcurrent is subpar and there's little chance of
> > improving, then I think it's important to let Qt users know that --
> > through documentation and/or deprecation -- so that they don't
> > unwittingly invest their resources in stagnant technology. The
> > impression I get from the official documentation is that QtConcurrent
> > is a high-level alternative to QThread and QRunnable.
> > QtConcurrent offers the ability to run a function in parallel, and to
> > process a container's elements in parallel. The former can be
> > by QRunnable to an extent... but what about the latter? Are there
> > strong use cases for parallel container processing, and is it worth
> > salvaging that functionality?
> QtConcurrent is fine, but its implementation has issues.
> Both in the "front-end" (the templated code in the headers), and in the
> implementation (data structures that don't scale well, ...)
> Nothing that cannot really be fixed, but they would need to still re-
> think big
> parts of QtConcurrent, so that would be a huge work.
> Is this work worth it when there are already others libraries that
> offer same
> features (if not better)
> ThreadWeaver. Currently part of the KDE libraries. It has been
> splitted in a
> separate QtAddon as part of the work on KDE Frameworks.
> The other option is to use the C++ standard library. C++11 contains
> threading primitives. http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/thread
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