[Development] Support for your evaluation of Qt

Christian Gagneraud chgans at gna.org
Fri Jul 11 00:05:03 CEST 2014


On 10/07/2014 11:19 p.m., Mitch Curtis wrote:
>
> On 07/10/2014 12:20 PM, Ch'Gans wrote:
>> On 09/07/14 19:53, Andrea Barna wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am Andrea from Digia Qt, I have recently taken over the Qt
>>> businessin your region.
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> All the best for your new position!
>>
>>> I noticed that you downloaded the trial version of Qt last year and
>>> Iwas wondering whether the evaluation went well.
>>>
>>> It would be helpful to understand why you were evaluating Qt, and
>>> learn more about what type of application you are developing.
>> I downloaded your evaluation version of Qt to see how different it is
>> from the open source one. I am especially interested in embedded and
>> industrial application and as such I was curious about your "Boot to Qt"
>> technology.
>> I was not really surprised to discover that your proprietary "Boot to
>> Qt" technology is based on the open-source Yocto project [1], and I
>> think that instead of keeping this technology closed, you should be the
>> official maintainer of the Qt5 Yocto layer (lot of work is needed there,
>> and you have handles in-house), I think you should contact the Linux
>> Foundation [2], they will be glad to see you being a major actor in the
>> open-source embedded Linux world.
>>
>>   > Furthermore is there anything that Digia–Qt can help you with?
>>
>> Definitely yes: please open up your open source based
>> commercial/proprietary boot to Qt technology.
>> I am not asking that because I am an open-source fanatic, I am asking
>> that because this is the only reliable and efficient way to get Qt
>> massively adopted on the embedded/industrial Linux market, I think that
>> Digia should be a (publicly visible) key actor in this sector.
>>
>> Maybe one day you will be able to replace your "Code once, run
>> everywhere" with "Code once, run everywhere, without pain!".
>> Getting Qt5 + Yocto + OpenGL-ES running across different ARM SoCs is a
>> real pain.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Chris
>>
>> PS: No disrespect to you, Digia, Nokia, TrollTech and all the Qt trolls,
>> hat off and thumb up to all you guys! I am just tired to see a beautiful
>> open-source SW community being permanently fooled by professional
>> closed-source HW company. Please don't be part of this masquerade!
>>
>> PS2: I've CC'ed the Qt developer mailing list (public archived available
>> [3]), hoping this could be useful to someone, somehow, someday.
>>
>> [1] https://www.yoctoproject.org/
>> [2] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/contact
>> [3] http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/
>>
>
> I'm curious how you think Digia can fund future development of things 
> like Boot to Qt if they give it away for free?

Boot To Qt for Embedded Linux (Not talking about android here), is based 
on Yocto (which is open-source), there exists a Qt5 layer (Dedicated 
Yocto sub-project), and I think that Digia should be the official 
maintainer of this project. Digia could work hand and hand with Silicon 
Company like Intel, Texas Instrument, Freescale, Xilinx (these companies 
maintain their own SoC specific Yocto layers). Everyone would win if the 
Qt5 Layer was in a good shape and tested on platform based on the 
above-mentioned SoC's manufacturers.
Today, these SoC manufacturers provide SDKs (Linux kernel + cross 
toolchain + demo image) and few provide a SDK that contains Qt5. I think 
it is Digia's role to help spread the Qt technology on embedded Linux.

On the side, Qt3 (yes this is not a mistake, it is a three) is 
officially supported by Yocto (courtesy of Intel) for the sake of LSB 
compliance...
http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-qt3/tree/README

Chris


>
>>> I look forward to hearing about your project. >
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Andrea
>>>
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