[Development] Build system for Qt 6

[Ray Donnelly]

I'll not going to do this for you, sorry. I also pointed out the lack of
isolation from system libraries by default as a major problem.

Take any complex project and try it. Basically very few will work on all
generators. In particular ide generators cannot express complex build
dependencies very well and any use of scripts will tend not to work unless
you hardcore them for each one. I'm not in a position to investigate this.
I just want build tools to get out of my way. I work in the Anaconda
Distribution as a software packager and spend a significant amount of my
working day battling cmake. As I say it's "ok" for developers but not for
packagers.

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 6:05 AM Alexander Neundorf <neundorf at kde.org wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2018 M12 15, Sat 14:49:16 CET Ray Donnelly wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 6:35 AM Alexander Neundorf <neundorf at kde.org
> wrote:
> > > On 2018 M10 30, Tue 18:33:03 CET NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> > > > > Thus this investment would be at the expense of other things we’d
> like
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > do, like improving our IDE, working on rearchitecting and cleaning up
> > > > our
> > > > core frameworks for Qt 6 or the design tooling we are currently
> > > > investing
> > > > into. The Qt Company believes that those other investments are more
> > > > important for the future of Qt than our choice of build tool.
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand. Will it not be a return on the investment when
> > > > people
> > > > use Qt "because their build tool is the best around" ?
> > > > Project files are at the root of every project. There are all sorts
> of
> > >
> > > good
> > >
> > > > IDEs around but ppl mostly are forced to use CMAKE which no one
> seems to
> > > > like.
> > >
> > > I do like it :-P
> > > CMake can generate not only Makefiles and ninja files, but also project
> > > files for
> > > IDEs (Visual Studio, XCode, Eclipse).
> > > With the addition of "server mode" 2 or 3 years ago or so now also a
> tight
> > > integration with IDEs is possible. I think QtCreator and/or KDevelop
> make
> > > use
> > > of this.
> > > So, when using cmake the developer is free to chose whether he wants to
> > > use
> > > simply an editor and make/ninja, or a full IDE.
> >
> > In my experience with cmake any non trivial implementation only tends to
> > work with the generator(s) the developer tested against most recently.
>
> Which features are not working for which generators ?
> As far as I know the ASM support may not really be working with the Visual
> Studio generators. Is there more ?
> IMO those are issues/bugs, and developers who want to use these generators
> should put some effort into getting this fixed.
>
> Alex
>
>
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