[Development] Who is in charge of qt-project.org?
tuukka.turunen at qt.io
Thu Nov 1 08:49:12 CET 2018
What comes to the mistake with the mailing list archive, we of course fix it. Meanwhile, use the workaround described by Andy: " It is there, but you have to go to http://lists.qt-project.org for now, it is being moved to a new server so at some point the https address will be back, but until then you need to use the http address."
What comes to the Qt Project, it is how Qt is developed - all the work done for Qt by The Qt Company is via the Qt Project. The website where this is best visible is: https://codereview.qt-project.org, also the mailing lists are with qt-project.org domain.
The reasons for not having a separate site for open-source Qt and commercial Qt are described quite well in this blog post from, 2014: http://blog.qt.io/blog/2014/08/06/defragmenting-qt-and-uniting-our-ecosystem/
The hosting foundation for Qt Project (a non-profit organization registered in Norway) is currently inoperable, costs of running the web servers, download systems etc of the Qt Project are paid directly by The Qt Company.
On 31/10/2018, 23.50, "Development on behalf of Christian Gagneraud" <development-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt.io at qt-project.org on behalf of chgans at gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 05:28, Kain Vampire via Development
<development at qt-project.org> wrote:
> WHAT A TWAT!
> Yes, feel free to ban me, it was worth it.
You could have used the word 'idiot', at least it is not an insult to
the feminine gender.
You could have as well quoted which part of the message you didn't
like. I'm taking you didn't like part 2.
This was obviously a provocative statement, but it was not an insult.
I still stand that the qt-projects.org domain should not be managed
(directly or indirectly) by the Qt Company, there is a clear conflict
Something that has been raised several times in the past (Check the
mailing list archives about the captive/deceptive portal hat is/was
the Qt's download page).
lists.qt-projects.org has had issue for more than a month, and
(suddenly) got resolved overnight.
[Side note: http stopped to redirect to https, but https is still
down, which means that https urls returned by search engine are
broken. Whoever runs codereview.qt-project.org has access to a
wildcard ssl certificate (*.qt-project.org), but it seems that whoever
runs lists.qt-project.org doesn't.]
As an experience, try to type "download qt" in you favorite search
engine, and tell me what you get, here is my top results:
The interesting bit is that qt-project.org/downloads redirects to
Basically, qt-projects.org is just a facade to qt.io, I think this is
not healthy. There is no public expression of the "Qt Project".
Concerning, the "Qt Project Hosting Foundation", i've found:
https://investors.qt.io/governance/management/ (where it is mentioned
that Tuukka Turunen is a "Chairman of the Board of Directors in the Qt
Project Hosting Foundation")
PS: I do not hate the Qt Company, nor do I hate anyone working for
them. Without license, without money, there would be no "Qt Company",
and without "Qt Company", the "Qt Project" would be substantially
different. As a license owner and an OSS enthusiast I am thankful to
the Qt Company and to all numerous direct and indirect "Qt Project"
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