[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

[Alexey Andreyev]

I agree with you, Konstantin

вс, 28 окт. 2018 г. в 13:36, Konstantin Shegunov <kshegunov at gmail.com>:

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> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:43 AM Martin Smith <Martin.Smith at qt.io> wrote:
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>> >Oh, it is going to end in A resolution, it may not end the way the
>> offended party
>> >may feel just, but that's true also for the proposed text.
>>
>> HA! You are not Konstantin Shegunov! A software engineer would imediately
>> see that your 3 step CoC might not terminate. You are an imposter!
>>
>
> That's actually amusing, but I'll bite. Formally speaking, I'm not a
> software engineer, never had any formal training in the field. I'm a
> physicist who moonlights as a programmer. In any case, the current status
> quo, which is what I described, ends in either the community reacting or
> not reacting to the alleged offence (i.e. isolating the offensive party for
> example). That is A resolution, be it a good one or bad.
>
> >imagine that the abusive party is an employee of the QtC and has committed
>> >heinous acts against a community member.
>>
>> You can't immediately jump to the worst case scenario to discredit the
>> code of conduct. In fact, the CoC can deal with "heinous acts" by stating
>> that such acts will be referred to the appropriate legal authority.
>>
>
> Not only can I, I pretty much have to. Minor infringements can already be
> handled internally without the need for CoC, major ones is where it would
> actually matter if we have one and which one we chose. Also it's a
> perfectly valid logic to push an argument to the extreme to see if holds,
> we do it on every day basis. In math you can assume something, operate on
> the presumption and see if contradicts itself when pushed (reductio ad
> impossibilem). If I were to design a safety net for a nuclear power plant
> am I to just ignore the extreme or unlikely case? Surely not. You compared
> the CoC to a "local law" of sorts, but does the local law forgo the
> unlikely case that from the whole population one person would be a
> murderer? I shouldn't think so.
> You can't defend the CoC's text and premise on the basis that my argument
> is unlikely, or extreme. It has to able to withstand exactly those extremes!
>
> In fact, the CoC can deal with "heinous acts" by stating that such acts
>> will be referred to the appropriate legal authority.
>
>
> Not if they don't elevate to a criminal act.
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