[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

[Alexey Andreyev]

> So, as far as I see you have not identified any controversial
> sentences either
I've defined controversial sentences previously about proposed
harassment-free pledge part and KDE's protection from discrimination part.

> see people reporting on successes of KDE CoC and
> problems with kernel one

Could you provide the link with research or any other details about
successes of the KDE CoC?

> The text is clear - actions will be taken to stop the discrimination.
> That involves technical means (kick / ban) but also more social means

It is not clear. Intruder could ask to ban some person pretending it's
discrimination problem.
intruder could ask to accept vulnerable changes.
All the described situations requires resources from the community.
It also could be used to something could be called denial-of-community
situation.

In general, it could be used to change the image of the community to made
it less popular
and decrease the number of new members.

Anyway, I guess there's still no scientific research and social survey
about the number of the situations that could be called conflicts.
So I don't see what problem should be solved right now.

I could not accept an answer like "let's try and see" since we didn't even
proposed metrics how to check new CoC is helping.


вс, 28 окт. 2018 г. в 22:29, Tomasz Siekierda <sierdzio at gmail.com>:

> > > вс, 28 окт. 2018 г. в 10:47, Tomasz Siekierda <sierdzio at gmail.com>:
> > > Hi Alexey, I've just read the QUIP proposal and couldn't find any
> > > controversial sentences. Could you elaborate? Which points shall be
> > > discussed?
> > >
> > > > The controversial discrimination protection sentences at least
> should be carefully discussed. It's not some thing that we could accept as
> easy as rewrite.
>
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 11:34, Alexey Andreyev
> <yetanotherandreyev at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Tomasz! :)
> > Thank you for the question!
> >
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Do we have any research about effects it leading?
> >
> > How many discrimination suspicions do we have right now?
> >
> > How could it be resolved successfully at digital community?
> >
> > How many misuse examples do we have at open projects since accepting
> similar rules?
> >
> > How CoC board are going to protect community from discrimination and
> harassment?
> >
> > Are CoC committee ready for "affirmative action"?
> >
> > [...]
>
> So, as far as I see you have not identified any controversial
> sentences either, your questions are more general and have been
> answered already (see people reporting on successes of KDE CoC and
> problems with kernel one).
>
> Regarding:
>
> > How CoC board are going to protect community from discrimination and
> harassment?
>
> The text is clear - actions will be taken to stop the discrimination.
> That involves technical means (kick / ban) but also more social means
> (talking with both parties, trying to mediate, trying to understand
> what is going on etc. - all this is mentioned in CoC draft).
>
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