[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct
Thiago Macieira
thiago.macieira at intel.com
Sun Oct 28 22:17:15 CET 2018
On Sunday, 28 October 2018 13:18:02 PDT Alexey Andreyev wrote:
> > The text is clear - actions will be taken to stop the discrimination.
> > That involves technical means (kick / ban) but also more social means
>
> It is not clear. Intruder could ask to ban some person pretending it's
> discrimination problem.
Sure, but again that's why we have a committee behind who will evaluate the
charges and decide what the proper action to be taken is. If the charges are
fake, then the accused would of course not be affected in any way. And if the
accuser keeps making false accusations, that's the one who could face
sanctions.
> intruder could ask to accept vulnerable changes.
And why would you or an approver accept technically inferior solutions? No one
is saying that we should do that. All that is required is to be civil and
harassment-free when discussing such a solution.
> All the described situations requires resources from the community.
> It also could be used to something could be called denial-of-community
> situation.
Yes, it does require resources from the community. No one said that keeping a
community welcoming is free. It requires all of us to look after one another
and our shared values.
But I think it's a price we're willing to pay.
And I'm pretty sure the KDE Community WG can easily compile a list of times
that they were maliciously asked to look into situations and how much time it
took them to give it the attention it was due.
> In general, it could be used to change the image of the community to made
> it less popular
> and decrease the number of new members.
How could it be used to do that?
> Anyway, I guess there's still no scientific research and social survey
> about the number of the situations that could be called conflicts.
> So I don't see what problem should be solved right now.
First of all, there are enough situations handled by multiple CoC committees
in several communities to prove that it's worth it. There have been situations
when they've been called to act and they have. I'd like to know about
situations that were resolved peacefully and the person who was found to be
doing harassing changed their behaviour.
As for a scientific research, it's pretty hard with social situations, like
almost anything related to people's behaviour: communities are different from
one another and you can't have a control group to see what happens if you
don't adopt a CoC.
> I could not accept an answer like "let's try and see" since we didn't even
> proposed metrics how to check new CoC is helping.
Tell us how to measure the benefit compared to not having a CoC.
I'll be very satisfied even if we have a total of zero times the CoC acts in
the next 5 years and that no new contributor mentions reading the CoC before
joining the community.
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Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
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