[Development] Changes to Qt offering

[NIkolai Marchenko]

>  I personally consider “sudo apt-get install -y qtcreator”
distros come with outdated qt

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 7:10 PM Volker Hilsheimer <volker.hilsheimer at qt.io>
wrote:

> > On 29 Jan 2020, at 15:20, Benjamin TERRIER <b.terrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 14:10, Cristián Maureira-Fredes <
> Cristian.Maureira-Fredes at qt.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> but for Windows/macOS this might have three solutions (maybe more):
> >> - Using package managers that provide Qt,
> >> - Download and compile Qt by themselves,
> >> - Create an account and use the installer.
> >
> >
> > How is any of these a solution to the fact that your a putting a barrier
> for new users?
> > These are just 3 bad solutions to a problem that did not exist yesterday
> and that we have to deal with
> > because you removed the 2 main points of entry for new Qt users: the
> offline installer and
> > the non-privacy-violating online installer.
>
> Hm, if the problem didn’t exist, then why did the solutions exist? Package
> managers on Windows and macOS provide Qt in the past, after all, and
>
> $ sudo apt-get install -y qtcreator
> PS C:\Users\vohi> choco install qtcreator
> $ brew install qt-creator
>
> give me a Qt development environment on Linux, Windows, and macOS.
>
>
> You obviously don’t trust that TQtC will treat the data the
> online-installer either demands or requires with the appropriate
> confidence. So, shouldn't you build Qt from sources? Your IP address is
> PII, after all. Why did you trust that The Qt Company didn’t collect
> personal data from you previously - just because you didn’t have to enter
> your email address?
>
>
> >> Good thing that you replied in any case,
> >> because I really think we should separate the different use cases:
> >>
> >> - For people already using Qt, with Qt accounts,
> >> that's not a problem.
> >
> > This, and a lot of what TQC employees are saying on these changes, does
> sound like the famous sentence
> > from Don Mattrick about the Xbox One: "We have a product for people who
> aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360."
> >
> > Back to the topic, I have a Qt account, I do NOT want to use it to
> install Qt.
> > I am pretty sure we will have community provided offline, and even maybe
> online, installers soon enough.
>
>
> I wonder where all this love for the Qt installer comes from. I personally
> consider “sudo apt-get install -y qtcreator” or “brew install qt-creator”
> or “choco install qtcreator" to be vastly superior to using the installer
> UI, and very easily integrated in VM provisioning. Any energy spent on
> making sure that the versions we get from those package repos is up-to-date
> would be worth a lot more (to me) than building another installer.
>
>
> Volker
>
>
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