[Interest] RE : Re: Indie Mobil Program terminated?

[Daniel França]

Another point that worth to mention is that, IIRC, before Qt5.5 there was a
"Professional license", more expensive than a Indie, but much cheaper than
the enterprise one.
Now it's gone, and it's even harder to step in and evolve your company with
Qt.

Em ter, 7 de jul de 2015 às 08:42, maitai <maitai at virtual-winds.org>
escreveu:

> Hello,
> i am going to subscribe to the indie license next week when i come back
> home. But where can i find a description of what exactly it contains or not
> and what are the requirements on my side?  I have read that in the past but
> i want to refresh my mind and just cannot find it anymore on the website...
>
> Thanks
> Philippe
>
>
> -------- Message d'origine --------
> De : Shantanu Tushar <shaan7in at gmail.com>
> Date : 07/07/2015 08:19 (GMT+01:00)
> À : Daniel França <daniel.franca at gmail.com>
> Cc : interest at qt-project.org
> Objet : Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?
>
> Yep quite a chicken and egg problem - devs won't buy Indie license until
> Qt gets the "missing features"*, but by the time that happens, digia won't
> be offering the Indie license anymore -_-
>
> * I'm not a mobile dev, so not sure what these are yet. Can somebody list
> them out?
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Daniel França <daniel.franca at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> >> The reason why Indie Mobile product is to be discontinued is simple:
>> there has been so few licenses sold that it does not even cover for the
>> cost of online sales
>>
>> Hmmm, maybe because Qt was missing some crucial features on mobile so
>> people were waiting those features be available before buy?
>>
>> On Mon 6 Jul 2015 at 20:23 Turunen Tuukka <
>> tuukka.turunen at theqtcompany.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> The reason why Indie Mobile product is to be discontinued is simple:
>>> there has been so few licenses sold that it does not even cover for the
>>> cost of online sales, let alone any cost of packaging, testing,
>>> distributing etc. We do care about indie developers and the community, but
>>> based on the sold Indie Mobile subscriptions it is very clear that there
>>> was no demand to this product.
>>>
>>> As also stated in the blog post of today, we are rather surprised that a
>>> product that almost no-one has bought is crucially important to so many.
>>> For this reason, we decided to have extension until end of August rather
>>> that promise that the product is available indefinitely. It will be
>>> interesting to see how many decide to purchase it now that it is again
>>> available.
>>>
>>> We are continuously thinking of ways to improve our offering and
>>> naturally hope to find products that provide new business. We are also very
>>> happy that we have an active community and customer base. And we are
>>> extremely proud that Qt is a great product, used by a huge number of
>>> developers worldwide.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>>                 Tuukka
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> Lähettäjä: md at rpzdesign.com <md at rpzdesign.com>
>>> Lähetetty: 6. heinäkuuta 2015 16:39
>>> Vastaanottaja: interest at qt-project.org
>>> Kopio: Knoll Lars; Turunen Tuukka
>>> Aihe: Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?
>>>
>>> Dear Lars & Turunen:
>>>
>>> Qt has been reading their email, but still appear tone deaf:
>>>
>>>  >
>>> http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/07/06/indie-mobile-available-until-aug-31st/
>>>
>>> There are statements in that blog which strain QT credibility.
>>>
>>> Transparency is only ONE of several significant problems.
>>>
>>> Your feedback loops are apparently broken.
>>>
>>> Community Crisis Response and Pricing Policy VIA BLOG is a
>>> communications disaster.
>>>
>>> You have manufactured haters which will not evangelize QT, further
>>> weakening QT now and in the future.
>>>
>>> Failing to have Qt staff directly and completely address many valid
>>> questions/issues raised in the interest list and blog replies has
>>> consequences, whether obvious or not.
>>>
>>> Stop saying Open Source successfully replaces Indie, until you can
>>> provide an articulate and concise page why instead of sending
>>> all potential Indies to their lawyers to figure it out.  They will not.
>>>
>>> The web site is a confusing MESS. You are LOSING sales because nobody
>>> can clearly see price VS benefits.
>>>
>>> Like Nunos Santos says: QT Rocks.
>>>
>>> Just not enough people have the time (and now the money) to bet on QT to
>>> figure it out.
>>>
>>> They need to see other users succeeding, not users bitching.
>>>
>>> This has been a terrible week for QT.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
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