[Interest] RE : Re: Indie Mobil Program terminated?

Tue Jul 7 11:03:31 CEST 2015

Hello,

That's right. I have been asking about the Professional license too. It was
useful for mobile because it included the Qt Purchasing APIs and the QML
compiler, and also for desktop, as it allowed static binaries with no
object file redistribution.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Daniel França <daniel.franca at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Another point that worth to mention is that, IIRC, before Qt5.5 there was
> a "Professional license", more expensive than a Indie, but much cheaper
> than the enterprise one.
> Now it's gone, and it's even harder to step in and evolve your company
> with Qt.
>
> Em ter, 7 de jul de 2015 às 08:42, maitai <maitai at virtual-winds.org>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hello,
>> i am going to subscribe to the indie license next week when i come back
>> home. But where can i find a description of what exactly it contains or not
>> and what are the requirements on my side?  I have read that in the past but
>> i want to refresh my mind and just cannot find it anymore on the website...
>>
>> Thanks
>> Philippe
>>
>>
>> -------- Message d'origine --------
>> De : Shantanu Tushar <shaan7in at gmail.com>
>> Date : 07/07/2015 08:19 (GMT+01:00)
>> À : Daniel França <daniel.franca at gmail.com>
>> Cc : interest at qt-project.org
>> Objet : Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?
>>
>> Yep quite a chicken and egg problem - devs won't buy Indie license until
>> Qt gets the "missing features"*, but by the time that happens, digia won't
>> be offering the Indie license anymore -_-
>>
>> * I'm not a mobile dev, so not sure what these are yet. Can somebody list
>> them out?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Daniel França <daniel.franca at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> >> The reason why Indie Mobile product is to be discontinued is simple:
>>> there has been so few licenses sold that it does not even cover for the
>>> cost of online sales
>>>
>>> Hmmm, maybe because Qt was missing some crucial features on mobile so
>>> people were waiting those features be available before buy?
>>>
>>> On Mon 6 Jul 2015 at 20:23 Turunen Tuukka <
>>> tuukka.turunen at theqtcompany.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> The reason why Indie Mobile product is to be discontinued is simple:
>>>> there has been so few licenses sold that it does not even cover for the
>>>> cost of online sales, let alone any cost of packaging, testing,
>>>> distributing etc. We do care about indie developers and the community, but
>>>> based on the sold Indie Mobile subscriptions it is very clear that there
>>>> was no demand to this product.
>>>>
>>>> As also stated in the blog post of today, we are rather surprised that
>>>> a product that almost no-one has bought is crucially important to so many.
>>>> For this reason, we decided to have extension until end of August rather
>>>> that promise that the product is available indefinitely. It will be
>>>> interesting to see how many decide to purchase it now that it is again
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> We are continuously thinking of ways to improve our offering and
>>>> naturally hope to find products that provide new business. We are also very
>>>> happy that we have an active community and customer base. And we are
>>>> extremely proud that Qt is a great product, used by a huge number of
>>>> developers worldwide.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>>
>>>>                 Tuukka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> Lähettäjä: md at rpzdesign.com <md at rpzdesign.com>
>>>> Lähetetty: 6. heinäkuuta 2015 16:39
>>>> Vastaanottaja: interest at qt-project.org
>>>> Kopio: Knoll Lars; Turunen Tuukka
>>>> Aihe: Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?
>>>>
>>>> Dear Lars & Turunen:
>>>>
>>>> Qt has been reading their email, but still appear tone deaf:
>>>>
>>>>  >
>>>> http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/07/06/indie-mobile-available-until-aug-31st/
>>>>
>>>> There are statements in that blog which strain QT credibility.
>>>>
>>>> Transparency is only ONE of several significant problems.
>>>>
>>>> Your feedback loops are apparently broken.
>>>>
>>>> Community Crisis Response and Pricing Policy VIA BLOG is a
>>>> communications disaster.
>>>>
>>>> You have manufactured haters which will not evangelize QT, further
>>>> weakening QT now and in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Failing to have Qt staff directly and completely address many valid
>>>> questions/issues raised in the interest list and blog replies has
>>>> consequences, whether obvious or not.
>>>>
>>>> Stop saying Open Source successfully replaces Indie, until you can
>>>> provide an articulate and concise page why instead of sending
>>>> all potential Indies to their lawyers to figure it out.  They will not.
>>>>
>>>> The web site is a confusing MESS. You are LOSING sales because nobody
>>>> can clearly see price VS benefits.
>>>>
>>>> Like Nunos Santos says: QT Rocks.
>>>>
>>>> Just not enough people have the time (and now the money) to bet on QT to
>>>> figure it out.
>>>>
>>>> They need to see other users succeeding, not users bitching.
>>>>
>>>> This has been a terrible week for QT.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>
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