[Interest] 5.8 Features?

Thu Jun 23 09:52:05 CEST 2016

Hi Ekke,

Thx for all the effort you put into the mobile platforms for Qt, evangelizing as well as sharing your knowledge on it.

Even when the items mentioned are not on the immediate roadmap as such, why not take the next step and consider creating a crossplatform API on your own, developed on the playground? Based on your knowledge of using those features, you seem like a natural candidate for this.

This might be a good place to start, you can ask the community and contributors to check for API consistency and if there are others needing those features as well, there is a likelihood that you will get feedback on those, maybe even contributions?

Having time is always an issue, so it is for the others. So, be proactive and start the initiative. There is no need to be done with it for FF of 5.8. If you are afraid of not being able to maintain this in the future, somebody else might take over but needs a head-start. After all, this would be on the playground.

Maurice

From: ekke [mailto:ekke at ekkes-corner.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:15 AM
To: Maurice Kalinowski <Maurice.Kalinowski at qt.io>; Matthias Degenkolb <matthias.degenkolb at googlemail.com>; interest at qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Interest] 5.8 Features?

thx Maurice,

Am 22.06.16 um 12:22 schrieb Maurice Kalinowski:
> Highest prio from my personal perspective:
> >> - Background processing API
> >> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
> + add Windows Store to Qt Purchasing module
there's more missing:
- avoid flicker for android apps out-of-the-box
- easy way to 'share' content with/from other apps (Intents, Deep Linking) Android, iOS
such common use-cases should be abstracted and available via Qt API

coming from BlackBerry 10 Cascades/QML APP Development I'm astonished how many common mobile tasks are missing

I want to motivate my enterprise customers to use Qt for mobile x-platform development
they're comparing with Xamarin, Ionic, Angular ...

I still believe Qt is the best solution for mobile x platform and hope there will be really progress on this
esp. after providing QtQuickControls2 Material style for great looking apps

ekke

https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/149602/
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/162992/

;)

Maurice

From: Interest [mailto:interest-bounces+maurice.kalinowski=qt.io at qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Matthias Degenkolb via Interest
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:25 AM
To: ekke <ekke at ekkes-corner.org><mailto:ekke at ekkes-corner.org>
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Subject: Re: [Interest] 5.8 Features?

I fully agree to ekke's and Jason's wishes. The features mentioned are all topics I also miss urgently since our first app development tests with Qt ..
Not having cross-platform access to those "standard" mechanisms for mobile OS really makes me wonder whether my next projects will be based on Qt ...

Highest prio from my personal perspective:
>> - Background processing API
>> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
+ add Windows Store to Qt Purchasing module

2016-06-22 10:45 GMT+02:00 ekke <ekke at ekkes-corner.org<mailto:ekke at ekkes-corner.org>>:
Am 22.06.16 um 10:36 schrieb Bo Thorsen:
> Den 21-06-2016 kl. 22:55 skrev Jason H:
>> I feel like the last few releases have been run by the trolls, and
>> not the users of Qt. I was hoping open governance would enable the
>> community to direct Qt development, but I seem to have misinterpreted
>> what it means. I'm looking for what's going into 5.8.. not much
>> listed on the releases page.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that mobile get some much needed love.
>> - Application state transitions; Foreground, background
>> - Background processing API
>> - Screen wake lock API
>> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
>>
>> While I have those characterized as "mobile" there are things like
>> notifications occurring on desktop platforms.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> There's only one reason why you don't see more features for the mobile
> parts: There are not enough developers on it. And that's not because
> QtCompany is doing anything wrong, they just have their priorities
> different from what you have.
>
> Personally I don't care about mobile at all. I haven't had a mobile
> customer since 2011 and I don't see that changing. My focus is almost
> entirely on Linux embedded and Windows desktop. Those are the areas
> where a lot of applications are written.
>
> I'd love to see the mobile platforms thrive. But unless you Qt users
> start becoming Qt developers and contribute to it, I don't see that
> happening.
hmmm
the only reason for me to use Qt is mobile
using new Qt Quick Controls 2 Qt is a great platform for mobile app
development and I hope many new developers will start with Qt on mobile
to make this easier I'm writing example apps and a blog series
http://j.mp/qt-x

I really hope that there will be development on the topics Jason H
mentioned above

ekke

>
> Bo Thorsen,
> Director, Viking Software.
>
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