[Interest] 5.8 Features?
ekke
ekke at ekkes-corner.org
Thu Jun 23 10:00:33 CEST 2016
Hi Maurice,
I'll go on and will try to find solutions and to write blogs / sample
apps / bugreports ...
and discuss here
having time is also an issue for me - working as an independent developer
hopefully others will also make their solutions public.
coming from BlackBerry Cascades it's not always easy to figure out how
it works in Android via JNI and iOS / ObjectiveC
I'm using Qt to avoid this ;-)
so for the moment I think it will consume much time to make apps running
for my customers - don't know when I'll reach a point to make contributions
ekke
Am 23.06.16 um 09:52 schrieb Maurice Kalinowski:
>
> Hi Ekke,
>
>
>
> Thx for all the effort you put into the mobile platforms for Qt,
> evangelizing as well as sharing your knowledge on it.
>
>
>
> Even when the items mentioned are not on the immediate roadmap as
> such, why not take the next step and consider creating a crossplatform
> API on your own, developed on the playground? Based on your knowledge
> of using those features, you seem like a natural candidate for this.
>
>
>
> This might be a good place to start, you can ask the community and
> contributors to check for API consistency and if there are others
> needing those features as well, there is a likelihood that you will
> get feedback on those, maybe even contributions?
>
>
>
> Having time is always an issue, so it is for the others. So, be
> proactive and start the initiative. There is no need to be done with
> it for FF of 5.8. If you are afraid of not being able to maintain this
> in the future, somebody else might take over but needs a head-start.
> After all, this would be on the playground.
>
>
>
> Maurice
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*ekke [mailto:ekke at ekkes-corner.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:15 AM
> *To:* Maurice Kalinowski <Maurice.Kalinowski at qt.io>; Matthias
> Degenkolb <matthias.degenkolb at googlemail.com>; interest at qt-project.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Interest] 5.8 Features?
>
>
>
> thx Maurice,
>
> Am 22.06.16 um 12:22 schrieb Maurice Kalinowski:
>
> > Highest prio from my personal perspective:
>
> > >> - Background processing API
>
> > >> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
>
> > + add Windows Store to Qt Purchasing module
>
> there's more missing:
> - avoid flicker for android apps out-of-the-box
> - easy way to 'share' content with/from other apps (Intents, Deep
> Linking) Android, iOS
> such common use-cases should be abstracted and available via Qt API
>
> coming from BlackBerry 10 Cascades/QML APP Development I'm astonished
> how many common mobile tasks are missing
>
> I want to motivate my enterprise customers to use Qt for mobile
> x-platform development
> they're comparing with Xamarin, Ionic, Angular ...
>
> I still believe Qt is the best solution for mobile x platform and hope
> there will be really progress on this
> esp. after providing QtQuickControls2 Material style for great looking
> apps
>
> ekke
>
>
>
> https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/149602/
>
> https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/162992/
>
>
>
> ;)
>
>
>
> Maurice
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Interest
> [mailto:interest-bounces+maurice.kalinowski=qt.io at qt-project.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Matthias Degenkolb via Interest
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:25 AM
> *To:* ekke <ekke at ekkes-corner.org> <mailto:ekke at ekkes-corner.org>
> *Cc:* interest at qt-project.org <mailto:interest at qt-project.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Interest] 5.8 Features?
>
>
>
> I fully agree to ekke's and Jason's wishes. The features mentioned
> are all topics I also miss urgently since our first app
> development tests with Qt ..
>
> Not having cross-platform access to those "standard" mechanisms
> for mobile OS really makes me wonder whether my next projects will
> be based on Qt ...
>
>
>
> Highest prio from my personal perspective:
>
> >> - Background processing API
> >> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
>
> + add Windows Store to Qt Purchasing module
>
>
>
>
>
> 2016-06-22 10:45 GMT+02:00 ekke <ekke at ekkes-corner.org
> <mailto:ekke at ekkes-corner.org>>:
>
> Am 22.06.16 um 10:36 schrieb Bo Thorsen:
>
> > Den 21-06-2016 kl. 22:55 skrev Jason H:
> >> I feel like the last few releases have been run by the
> trolls, and
> >> not the users of Qt. I was hoping open governance would
> enable the
> >> community to direct Qt development, but I seem to have
> misinterpreted
> >> what it means. I'm looking for what's going into 5.8.. not much
> >> listed on the releases page.
> >>
> >> I'd like to suggest that mobile get some much needed love.
> >> - Application state transitions; Foreground, background
> >> - Background processing API
> >> - Screen wake lock API
> >> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
> >>
> >> While I have those characterized as "mobile" there are
> things like
> >> notifications occurring on desktop platforms.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >
> > There's only one reason why you don't see more features for
> the mobile
> > parts: There are not enough developers on it. And that's not
> because
> > QtCompany is doing anything wrong, they just have their
> priorities
> > different from what you have.
> >
> > Personally I don't care about mobile at all. I haven't had a
> mobile
> > customer since 2011 and I don't see that changing. My focus
> is almost
> > entirely on Linux embedded and Windows desktop. Those are
> the areas
> > where a lot of applications are written.
> >
> > I'd love to see the mobile platforms thrive. But unless you
> Qt users
> > start becoming Qt developers and contribute to it, I don't
> see that
> > happening.
>
> hmmm
> the only reason for me to use Qt is mobile
> using new Qt Quick Controls 2 Qt is a great platform for
> mobile app
> development and I hope many new developers will start with Qt
> on mobile
> to make this easier I'm writing example apps and a blog series
> http://j.mp/qt-x
>
> I really hope that there will be development on the topics Jason H
> mentioned above
>
> ekke
>
> >
> > Bo Thorsen,
> > Director, Viking Software.
> >
>
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