[Interest] Modern

[René Hansen]

Vlad, do you have a source saying QML was an inspiration for Flutter?

I've recently talked with someone on the Flutter team, that literally
didn't even know QtQuick existed. At first I was sort of surprised, but
then again not really. I've talked with a lot of app developers, where Qt
isn't even on their radar.


/René


On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, 16:03 Vlad Stelmahovsky, <vladstelmahovsky at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I suppose he is just trolling community for whatever reason
>
> and QML is sooo "outdated" that Google created Flutter, where QML was an
> inspiration, for my poi
>
> br,
>
> Vlad
>
> On 12/20/18 3:23 PM, Nuno Santos wrote:
> > Hey Roland,
> >
> > Sorry mate.. I couldn’t avoid...
> >
> > How are you writing UIs this days? What is modern to you?
> >
> > I consider myself young. I’m only 36. But I have been writing software
> for the last 20 years.
> >
> > In the last 6 years I have written 4 different apps ALONE! One of them
> was written 3 times. One in native iOS, then in native Android and then in
> Qt Qml.
> >
> > Qml is by far the BEST way I have ever used to write a UI!
> >
> > UI code is glue, glue, glue. Every single other framework requires so
> much code to do exactly the same things as with Qml.
> >
> > Qt/Qml allowed me to advance at least 5x faster than any other UI
> framework.
> >
> > Is perfect? Nothing is perfect! There is are always pros/cons.
> >
> > Any way... for me, Qml in terms of UI writing is so modern that stands
> that easily stands from any other technology around.
> >
> > I want to express my gratitude to the WHOLE Qt team to make it possible!
> You guys rock! Qt Quick is definitely one of the best things around there.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > --
> > Nuno Santos
> > Founder / CEO / CTO
> > www.imaginando.pt
> >
> > No dia 20/12/2018, às 13:26, Roland Hughes <roland at logikalsolutions.com>
> escreveu:
> >
> >> It's still not modern.
> >>
> >> Modern implies "something which learned from past mistakes to overcome
> many of them." When something recent fails we simply call it "a new
> approach" implying that it failed, generally beyond human comprehension.
> Modern implies something succeed in overcoming many/most/all of the
> pitfalls/travesties/tragedies which came before.
> >>
> >> The latter does not apply to QML.
> >>
> >> Newer isn't better, just newer.
> >>
> >> Some "light" reading.
> >>
> >> https://www.cbinsights.com/research/corporate-innovation-product-fails/
> >>
> >> How many of you writing idiot phone apps know their used to be a
> Facebook Phone? A Ubuntu Phone? There even used to be an Apple Newton.
> >>
> >> Now that pretty much every industry analyst agrees the fad of idiot
> phones are over and that 2019 will be the first year of negative growth for
> the industry, scripted UIs will die off with them. Five years from now
> people will think about QML as often as you currently think about the Apple
> Newton.
> >>
> >> More light reading:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog/thankyousirmayihaveanother/the-counter-culture-has-won/
> >>
> >> Hopefully you all read far enough in the first link to read about
> Amazon's colossal failure, The Fire Phone. Even I didn't know Microsoft
> tried to market a "smart watch" in 2004. That thing must have only been on
> the market a few minutes!
> >>
> >> Be sure to scroll down to #35. Microsoft Kin One and Kin Two.
> Discontinued after 6 weeks. No wonder I'd never heard about this wanna-be
> Blackberry.
> >>
> >> Oh, from your own link
> >>
> >> /Although it was built in the 1600s, the building still has a very
> *modern* look./
> >>
> >> /
> >> /
> >>
> >>> On 12/19/2018 12:33 PM, Ian Trick wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:15 AM Roland Hughes
> >>> <roland at logikalsolutions.com> wrote:
> >>>> QML is __NOT__ modern.
> >>> modern: Pertaining to a current or recent time and style; not ancient.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/modern
> >>>
> >>> 🤔
> >>>
> >>>>>> On 17 Dec 2018, at 16:44, Fabrice Salvaire<
> fabrice.salvaire at orange.fr>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Qt users,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there people around who needed to hack QQuickTextNode private
> API ? IMHO it restricts strongly the possibility to develop modern custom
> QML items.
> >> --
> >> Roland Hughes, President
> >> Logikal Solutions
> >> (630) 205-1593
> >>
> >> http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com
> >> http://www.infiniteexposure.net
> >> http://www.johnsmith-book.com
> >> http://www.logikalblog.com
> >> http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog
> >> http://lesedi.us
> >>
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