[Interest] Modern
Vlad Stelmahovsky
vladstelmahovsky at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 16:57:35 CET 2018
Nope, its only my guess based on short Dart code checking and some
articles, how it works
Google definitely aware about Qt, but its huge, so..
On 12/21/18 4:41 PM, René Hansen wrote:
> Vlad, do you have a source saying QML was an inspiration for Flutter?
>
> I've recently talked with someone on the Flutter team, that literally
> didn't even know QtQuick existed. At first I was sort of surprised,
> but then again not really. I've talked with a lot of app developers,
> where Qt isn't even on their radar.
>
>
> /René
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, 16:03 Vlad Stelmahovsky,
> <vladstelmahovsky at gmail.com <mailto:vladstelmahovsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I suppose he is just trolling community for whatever reason
>
> and QML is sooo "outdated" that Google created Flutter, where QML
> was an
> inspiration, for my poi
>
> br,
>
> Vlad
>
> On 12/20/18 3:23 PM, Nuno Santos wrote:
> > Hey Roland,
> >
> > Sorry mate.. I couldn’t avoid...
> >
> > How are you writing UIs this days? What is modern to you?
> >
> > I consider myself young. I’m only 36. But I have been writing
> software for the last 20 years.
> >
> > In the last 6 years I have written 4 different apps ALONE! One
> of them was written 3 times. One in native iOS, then in native
> Android and then in Qt Qml.
> >
> > Qml is by far the BEST way I have ever used to write a UI!
> >
> > UI code is glue, glue, glue. Every single other framework
> requires so much code to do exactly the same things as with Qml.
> >
> > Qt/Qml allowed me to advance at least 5x faster than any other
> UI framework.
> >
> > Is perfect? Nothing is perfect! There is are always pros/cons.
> >
> > Any way... for me, Qml in terms of UI writing is so modern that
> stands that easily stands from any other technology around.
> >
> > I want to express my gratitude to the WHOLE Qt team to make it
> possible! You guys rock! Qt Quick is definitely one of the best
> things around there.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > --
> > Nuno Santos
> > Founder / CEO / CTO
> > www.imaginando.pt <http://www.imaginando.pt>
> >
> > No dia 20/12/2018, às 13:26, Roland Hughes
> <roland at logikalsolutions.com <mailto:roland at logikalsolutions.com>>
> escreveu:
> >
> >> It's still not modern.
> >>
> >> Modern implies "something which learned from past mistakes to
> overcome many of them." When something recent fails we simply call
> it "a new approach" implying that it failed, generally beyond
> human comprehension. Modern implies something succeed in
> overcoming many/most/all of the pitfalls/travesties/tragedies
> which came before.
> >>
> >> The latter does not apply to QML.
> >>
> >> Newer isn't better, just newer.
> >>
> >> Some "light" reading.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.cbinsights.com/research/corporate-innovation-product-fails/
> >>
> >> How many of you writing idiot phone apps know their used to be
> a Facebook Phone? A Ubuntu Phone? There even used to be an Apple
> Newton.
> >>
> >> Now that pretty much every industry analyst agrees the fad of
> idiot phones are over and that 2019 will be the first year of
> negative growth for the industry, scripted UIs will die off with
> them. Five years from now people will think about QML as often as
> you currently think about the Apple Newton.
> >>
> >> More light reading:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog/thankyousirmayihaveanother/the-counter-culture-has-won/
> >>
> >> Hopefully you all read far enough in the first link to read
> about Amazon's colossal failure, The Fire Phone. Even I didn't
> know Microsoft tried to market a "smart watch" in 2004. That thing
> must have only been on the market a few minutes!
> >>
> >> Be sure to scroll down to #35. Microsoft Kin One and Kin Two.
> Discontinued after 6 weeks. No wonder I'd never heard about this
> wanna-be Blackberry.
> >>
> >> Oh, from your own link
> >>
> >> /Although it was built in the 1600s, the building still has a
> very *modern* look./
> >>
> >> /
> >> /
> >>
> >>> On 12/19/2018 12:33 PM, Ian Trick wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:15 AM Roland Hughes
> >>> <roland at logikalsolutions.com
> <mailto:roland at logikalsolutions.com>> wrote:
> >>>> QML is __NOT__ modern.
> >>> modern: Pertaining to a current or recent time and style; not
> ancient.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/modern
> >>>
> >>> 🤔
> >>>
> >>>>>> On 17 Dec 2018, at 16:44, Fabrice
> Salvaire<fabrice.salvaire at orange.fr
> <mailto:fabrice.salvaire at orange.fr>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Qt users,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there people around who needed to hack QQuickTextNode
> private API ? IMHO it restricts strongly the possibility to
> develop modern custom QML items.
> >> --
> >> Roland Hughes, President
> >> Logikal Solutions
> >> (630) 205-1593
> >>
> >> http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com
> >> http://www.infiniteexposure.net
> >> http://www.johnsmith-book.com
> >> http://www.logikalblog.com
> >> http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog
> >> http://lesedi.us
> >>
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