[Interest] L Word

[Ilya Diallo]

Easy solution: create the roland at qt-projet.org list and send him and his
(surely numerous) followers there.
Think "separation of concerns" rather than "ban"

Le jeu. 29 avr. 2021 à 13:46, Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turunen at qt.io> a
écrit :

> Hi,
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> Perhaps we have been too long tolerant for the behavior that many see
> problematic (myself included). The challenge is the mix of valid and
> invalid items. It is easier to react to things that are clear violations to
> our CoC: http://quips-qt-io.herokuapp.com/quip-0012-Code-of-Conduct.html
> and nothing else.
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> On the positive side, we have not had that much of these over the years.
> We have not been banning people regularly, so we also lack a bit of
> precedence with this. Technically it is a trivial thing to remove someone
> from a mailing list. The challenging part is to decide when it is time to
> do that.
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> Yours,
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>                 Tuukka
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> *From: *Interest <interest-bounces at qt-project.org> on behalf of
> Massimiliano Maini <maxmaini at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 29. April 2021 at 14.23
> *To: *Bernhard Lindner <private at bernhard-lindner.de>
> *Cc: *interest at qt-project.org <interest at qt-project.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Interest] L Word
>
> Yeah, maybe that's part of the problem but, as you said, the solution
> should be simple: he leaves the mailing list
> or, if that's not possible, the admins "make him leave".
>
> On top, with his ramblings and often totally wrong assertions (the
> "April's fool link"-gate scandal has been absolutely
> hilarious, almost as the subsequent attempt to regain some
> credibility, yeah .. nice try) he has now managed to scare
> the hell out of me the next time I'll be tied to a medical device: the
> mere chance he may be behind it now makes me
> extremely nervous. Even if it's only a blood pressure monitor.
>
> Losing valuable people in the mailing list and, at some point, the
> mailing list at all is like throwing away a Ferrari
> because a pidgeon keeps shitting on it. I'd argue that getting rid of
> the pidgeon is a more sensible solution.
>
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 12:05, Bernhard Lindner
> <private at bernhard-lindner.de> wrote:
> >
> > The main problem isn't trolling. The main problem is: Roland comes from
> a completely
> > different world. The world of functional safety. This world is difficult
> and a completely
> > different from conventional software development. It is particularly
> different from
> > smartphone and web development. And it doesn't have much to do with
> desktop software
> > development. I have also been in this world for more than 3 years. A
> world where
> > programming is the least important thing. Where documentation is
> important. And the law.
> > And prison. And accuracy and multi-level tests and reliability and
> verification and
> > validation and standards. And many years of support. And certifications.
> A person who has
> > worked in this world for a long time has different priorities. Roland
> calls this "True
> > Software Engineering".
> >
> > Obviously, Qt has nothing to do with this type of software engineering.
> And it's obviously
> > not suitable for functional safety (at least not if you take it
> seriously).
> >
> > What I don't understand is why Roland doesn't just leave the mailing
> list and forget about
> > Qt. Qt is not suitable for use in his industrial sector, so I can't
> understand why he
> > spends so much time writing about the conflict between the reality of Qt
> and the reality
> > of his industrial sector. If I were him, I would have given up trying to
> influence Qt's
> > strategy a long time ago.
> >
> > (Actually, I'm about to give up my hopes for desktop development with
> Qt).
> >
> > So, Roland, why are you keeping the conflicts going?
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Bernhard Lindner
> >
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